Hipsters: Scourge or Irrelevence

woops

woops

is not like other people
So what?

Nice jacket and he's checking a lot of music on the go, and his girlfriend's fringe is fit. I reckon that guy probably posts on this forum. Show yourself!
 
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viktorvaughn

Well-known member
Leo said:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/t0ph3r/the-most-hipster-hipster-youll-ever-see-5bwv

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Is this outside the Marquis of Lansdown in Dalston?
 
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paolo

Mechanical phantoms
My brother admitted to being a hipster a few weeks ago. This makes me think that he isn't a hipster because real hipsters never admit to being hipsters
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
He's being rather rude to his girlfriend, if indeed that's who that woman is. She's wearing a nice dress and seems to be drinking an interesting-looking beer.
 
e/y

e/y

Well-known member
Whatever good points that NYT piece makes have been made many times before ages ago, and the rest of it is really pretty poor imo (lol @ 4 year olds being the models of non-ironic living and 90s being irony free).
 
Slothrop

Slothrop

Tight but Polite
baboon2004 said:
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/17/how-to-live-without-irony/

Edit: This is a really good article (hadn't read it when I posted it; was just putting it up for future reference), especially in the way it draws a link between empty use of irony and (non) politics.
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Maybe I'm overly academic about this sort of stuff, but I get really wound up by articles that start off with a bunch of bald assertions about The Way Things Are and then proceed to demonstrate how this bears out a whole bunch of the author's (and the audience's) prejudices. The Ironic Hipster as described here just seems like far too obviously mythological a character to just take at face value.
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
I agree that there's holes in it, it's written in that didactic way that 'comment' pieces are written, and that the Hipster doesn't exist in the bald way portrayed, but I think the points it makes about the flight to irony and the problems with it, are pretty on-point. So I guess for me, the article might've been better ditching the hipster conceit and talking more generally about irony, which it does attempt to do part-way through I think.

Also, I don't read enough innovative things in newspapers to mind when good points are being re-made - they bear repeating in this case I think.
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
To broaden the point:

"A great many things one doesn't like in others are amplified versions of what one doesn't like in oneself".

Yeah, there is much truth in this. Which I think the article also touched upon.
 
Slothrop

Slothrop

Tight but Polite
But I think accusations of hipsterism and "ironic consumption" in particular are constructed as a defensive thing. If people who you don't like start getting into the same sort of things you like, then rather than admit that you have some sort of cultural commonality and shared taste, you declare that their enjoyment can't possibly be authentic - they must be being ironic or following a trend or something. They don't "really get it" like you do.

It's a subcultural capital thing...
 
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