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craner

Beast of Burden
the victorian aesthetic is gross in general.

its amazing to think that the 1800's was a whole century without a single person producing anything of any artistic merit.
Not really into novels, poetry, essays, plays, sculpture or architecture, then?
 

craner

Beast of Burden
Don't get me wrong, Bart, I do enjoy a sweeping statement. But you just junked Balzac, Turner and the Brompton Oratory and I can't have that.
 

luka

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the victorian aesthetic is gross in general.

its amazing to think that the 1800's was a whole century without a single person producing anything of any artistic merit.
It's usually thought of as being the birth of the modern. Lots of wild, savage gestures. Crude daubs, howls, transgressions.
 

luka

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Whitman, Baudelaire, Rimbaud, Mallarme, Van Gough, Cezzane, Dostoyevsky, Lautremont, various breaks with tradition and propriety.
 

luka

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I'm about to start reading hobsbawns age of revolution 1789-1848 and the first paragraph of the introduction goes "'industry, industrialist, factory, middle class, working class, capitalism, socialism, aristocracy, railway, liberal and conservative as political terms, nationality, scientist, engineer, proletariat, utilitarian, statistics, sociology, journalism, ideology, strike, pauperism"

are all words either invented or that gained their modern meaning in this time period.
 

luka

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"The greatest transformation in human history since the remote times when men invented agriculture and metallurgy, writing, the city and the state"
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
when you look up your favourite musicians, poets, authors or painters from the 18th or 19th century and dig into their lives you find so often that they lived like some sort of vagabonds. not always poor, but often so. they go and roam from early age on, live in a shack in france, being fed by an old lady who recognizes the talent. do some sort of apprenticeship under the supervision of some skilled master in italy. form alliances, break up alliances, fight duels. it always feels like they have lived a 100 years in just 10 years. i'm always wondering what would be the modern equivalent of that sort of life. an artist residency in new york?
 

version

Who loves ya, baby?
Yeah, they apparently got one of them in the leg.

191117154839-hong-kong-police-arrow-in-leg-medium-plus-169.jpg

Earlier Sunday, a police media liaison officer was hit in the leg with an arrow during the skirmish and police fired water cannons at protesters in the streets.

Hong Kong protesters set fire to entrance of fortified university to hold back police

Hong Kong (CNN)Protesters set fire to the entrance of Hong Kong's Polytechnic University early Monday in a last ditch attempt to stop riot police from entering, as the siege of the heavily fortified campus entered its second day.
The flames followed a night of violence as students hurled petrol bombs at Hong Kong police, who deployed water cannons and warned that if given no other choice they would use "live rounds."
Around 8 a.m. on Monday, dozens of protesters attempted to leave the university through the main entrance as police fired rounds of tear gas. CNN witnessed multiple protesters being led away by police on the roads leading from the campus.

The Hong Kong police force has yet to disclose how many people have been arrested in the almost 24-hour siege, and there are no clear numbers for those who have been injured.
As of Monday morning, several hundred protesters were thought to remain barricaded inside the university's main building.
Over the weekend, the site had been used to stockpile weapons, including bows and arrows, catapults and petrol bombs, though it was unclear how many weapons remained.


https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/17/...ember-17-intl-hnk/index.html?no-st=1574152500
 

catalog

Well-known member
when you look up your favourite musicians, poets, authors or painters from the 18th or 19th century and dig into their lives you find so often that they lived like some sort of vagabonds. not always poor, but often so. they go and roam from early age on, live in a shack in france, being fed by an old lady who recognizes the talent. do some sort of apprenticeship under the supervision of some skilled master in italy. form alliances, break up alliances, fight duels. it always feels like they have lived a 100 years in just 10 years. i'm always wondering what would be the modern equivalent of that sort of life. an artist residency in new york?
One of my faves is Whistler and I think you've got a lot of his life right. The things you've missed out: be a total fraud/scoundrel and a test to your apprentices so that your legacy is protected.
 
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