nochexxx
harco pronting
thanks! i'll bare that in mind. not sure how easy it will be to convince both my sister and brother-in-law to footwerk it though.
Juke
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thanks! i'll bare that in mind. not sure how easy it will be to convince both my sister and brother-in-law to footwerk it though.
Alfons
Way of the future
have been mixing it up with older jungle to mixed receptions at local nights, sometimes it works but a lot of times the rhythms don't really gel. As far as the mainstream of dnb goes I think it's not going to be their thing, to different from the standard linear 2 step thing. Don't know if the idm / breakcore crowd might be into?
I don't really see myself playing full sets of juke tunes, probably keep sneaking the odd bits in between in this manner.
Dr Awesome
Techsteppin'
I've not heard (or heard of) any dnb DJs playing Juke for what it's worth (very little, I know).
That said I think there's that Instra:Mental track "work it" I think in the same sort of vein. Similar to the Jimmy Edgar rmx they did
That said I think there's that Instra:Mental track "work it" I think in the same sort of vein. Similar to the Jimmy Edgar rmx they did
skweeelicious!
bass downstairs
oh man, good call on instra:mental! i totally dig them and i've been looking for stuff to mix w/ footwork on my glitch.fm radio show. it's called lost in bass and airs 0200-0400 GMT. i've been mixing some 80 bpm bass music like chip chop (run riot records) and kelpe w/ the footwork.
speaking of dnb i wonder if amit would work...
speaking of dnb i wonder if amit would work...
skweeelicious!
bass downstairs
heh, no amit does not work. instra:mental is brilliant tho. will try dbridge.
i was surprised that my friends who used to be into breakcore don't like footwork, tho they might catch on later. i know one footwork producer who used to make breakcore. i wouldn't say dubstep fans have gone for it especially. the juke thread on dubstepforum had the usual mix of "this isn't music" and a few people who were flipped out by it.
i was surprised that my friends who used to be into breakcore don't like footwork, tho they might catch on later. i know one footwork producer who used to make breakcore. i wouldn't say dubstep fans have gone for it especially. the juke thread on dubstepforum had the usual mix of "this isn't music" and a few people who were flipped out by it.
Dr Awesome
Techsteppin'
"i was surprised that my friends who used to be into breakcore don't like footwork, tho they might catch on later. i know one footwork producer who used to make breakcore."
Ok people, give me some common elements that link footwork music to jungle, dnb or breakcore, and they can have NOTHING to do with the tempo. GO
Ok people, give me some common elements that link footwork music to jungle, dnb or breakcore, and they can have NOTHING to do with the tempo. GO
okay dave i'll ride for this one. hardcore and juke have a key similarity in the way that vocal are pitched up, chopped up and resampled, particularly in a "chipmunk" style. when i first heard juke i thought it sounded like hardcore.
skweeelicious!
bass downstairs
i don't got much, all i really meant was here were folks who were into dance music and having been into breakcore i expected them to have an open mind to stuff that is rhythmically wild but they slagged off footwork from the get-go.
off topic but thanks for posting these two, never heard them before
Here's a hypothesis: a) breakcore is incredibly white b) juke is incredibly black c) most people's tastes are channeled in one direction, not both.
I'm not trying to be a dick or saying they have nothing in common, but usually the only thing I hear from people is that they are both fast, which I think is so vague it doesn't count. I'm not super knowledgeable about stuff like dnb, jungle, hardcore ect, and just want some more comparisons. I think it could cause for some good conversation as well.
skweeelicious!
bass downstairs
are you kidding? white metal fans have been into hip-hop for 20+ years.
Dr Awesome
Techsteppin'
What do you mean "white" metal, white as in the colour white, or white as in Christian metal.
Either way the comparison is null and void imo, hip hop, as much as any other genre can be both bleak and uplifting.
skweeelicious!
bass downstairs
YOU said most people's tastes are channeled in one direction - "black" or "white". please explain.
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As a form early jungle and footwork have more in common than footwork and early house aesthetically think.
Exuberant rhythm science / sub bass / speed / same relationship and techniques with samples ie both musics used current and older black music styles and made them work to their form, same rough / smooth combinations, similar early audience / localised and black.
It doesn't sound great mixed i think - as the foundations of house - ie roland 606 808 909 etc don't really work well against the foundations of jungle - ie speeded up drum breaks.
Breakcore is a real misfire as breakcores like this willfully psychotic punky misreading of jungle - which is at its best when its just that writ large and ugly - ie DJ Scud etc.
Interestingly what the new juke inspired dubstep tracks mix well with and are similar in speed to are the older dance mania tracks at 140 etc - ie deeon work that mf etc...., a few djs in the uk have been fucking about with that for years cos it puts some heavy 4 4 energy into the spaces etc, those tracks work really well with grime too.
Things that it lacks are - that the uk doesn't really have the US tradition of competitive dances / dance trends / crews unless they've come over 2nd hand from the US, although you used to always get a few guys doing tandem moves in their baggies at raves, you get a few dance trends records in funky house or whatever but those are kinda looked on a bit as 'cheap' which is often unfair, cos they're often loads of fun.
There are styles of dancing associated with different types of music - same as all over but those are just things you do with your body.
Exuberant rhythm science / sub bass / speed / same relationship and techniques with samples ie both musics used current and older black music styles and made them work to their form, same rough / smooth combinations, similar early audience / localised and black.
It doesn't sound great mixed i think - as the foundations of house - ie roland 606 808 909 etc don't really work well against the foundations of jungle - ie speeded up drum breaks.
Breakcore is a real misfire as breakcores like this willfully psychotic punky misreading of jungle - which is at its best when its just that writ large and ugly - ie DJ Scud etc.
Interestingly what the new juke inspired dubstep tracks mix well with and are similar in speed to are the older dance mania tracks at 140 etc - ie deeon work that mf etc...., a few djs in the uk have been fucking about with that for years cos it puts some heavy 4 4 energy into the spaces etc, those tracks work really well with grime too.
Things that it lacks are - that the uk doesn't really have the US tradition of competitive dances / dance trends / crews unless they've come over 2nd hand from the US, although you used to always get a few guys doing tandem moves in their baggies at raves, you get a few dance trends records in funky house or whatever but those are kinda looked on a bit as 'cheap' which is often unfair, cos they're often loads of fun.
There are styles of dancing associated with different types of music - same as all over but those are just things you do with your body.
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