Dance music in Europe

john eden

male pale and stale
Can anyone tell me if there was ever any JA influence on stuff like tripwire?

I seem to recall a thread about that on here but I can't find it now.
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
I'm sure youths of Algerian descent in France have a style of music associated with them that I read about in some music magazine you haven't hear of (okay, it was The Guardian).

There's a lot of crossing of hip-hop and rai...
 

viktorvaughn

Well-known member
What's zouk? I can't bloody remember. Does that fit in here or is it from somewhere else?

I'm sure youths of Algerian descent in France have a style of music associated with them that I read about in some music magazine you haven't hear of (okay, it was The Guardian).

I once went to a wild ragga night in Budapest. It was bloody brilliant. All yard tunes tho.

Good thread, viktor.

Thanks. A few e-props to round off a mediocre Wednesday...;)

I got the impression Skwee was a bit more 'look at this great combination of incongruous musical elements I put together' rather than 'check this rinsin bassline I made on fruity loops blud'...dunno really.
 

zhao

there are no accidents
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originally used to discribe italian americans in Jersey... now you can substitute different ethnic backgrounds...
 

zhao

there are no accidents
by the way i'm actually quite against the prejudice "underground" people hold against "mainstream" types. i can certainly have fun at a place filled with guys with spiky greased up hair and bimbos. have nothing against people of another aesthetic persuasion... just becuase someone is wearing a silk screened blazer and fake rolex don't mean they're necessary an idiot... and i'm not being sarcastic.
 

swears

preppy-kei
This is what all the cool kids are into, anyway:

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Chris

fractured oscillations
This is what all the cool kids are into, anyway:

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WTF 4chan memes making it all the way to Dissensus? How DID that cesspool end up having so much cultural influence?

¯\(°_o)/¯
 

luka

Well-known member
are their cities in europe that have enough of a multicultural melting pot to create new sounds, in the way london does?\


im not sure its that simple. london has a special thing which cant be reduced to being multi cultural. i read hear that toronto has the biggest jamaician population outside ja itself. how much canadian music do you listen to? manchester is shit for music but has a varied population. sydney is full of people from different places, how much aussie music are you playing out these days?
 

doom

Public Housing
What is the lineage of hardstyle? I don't know much about it, presumed it was British (Very north of England and Scotland too) and an extension of Happy Hardcore - only ever heard it out in a room at a hardcore rave. It was quite exhilarating for a short while but then the one-to-the-floor monotony of it all overcame me. Well different crowd to the bassline raves at the same venue - i think the non-white punters could have been counted on one hand.

Shranz is some similarly rinsing techno variant right?!

Hardstyle/Jumpstyle/Hard-Jump/ReverzeBazz & loads of other mad 1s is mostly Flemish/Gaulish/Iberian from what I've seen, with outposts further North-Northeast, Italy... & Wollongong

Its as much G'd up Hard Trance as it is slightly burnt out Hardcore... proper alien rave. I like Jumpstyle & some of the more odd Hardstyle, some redic breakdowns, synth build-ups etc. Chk; Karl F 'Sinty Pitch', Snartz 'I Sampled Marissa EP', The Pitcher 'Grindin', Noise Provider 'Bits & Bytes EP', Chicago Zone 'Hands Up', Ruthless & Vorwerk 'Stalker', Highstreet Allstars 'Around The World' , Looney Tunez 'Verzoekjes' 140bpmish+, very digital, massive layers of detuned sawtooths & distortion, but a very surgical & clean distortion. Some of it is proper shite tho... stay the fuck away from technoboy :rolleyes:
 
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viktorvaughn

Well-known member
Hardstyle/Jumpstyle/Hard-Jump/ReverzeBazz & loads of other mad 1s is mostly Flemish/Gaulish/Iberian from what I've seen, with outposts further North-Northeast, Italy... & Wollongong

Its as much G'd up Hard Trance as it is slightly burnt out Hardcore... proper alien rave. I like Jumpstyle & some of the more odd Hardstyle, some redic breakdowns, synth build-ups etc. Chk; Karl F 'Sinty Pitch', Snartz 'I Sampled Marissa EP', The Pitcher 'Grindin', Noise Provider 'Bits & Bytes EP', Chicago Zone 'Hands Up', Ruthless & Vorwerk 'Stalker', Highstreet Allstars 'Around The World' , Looney Tunez 'Verzoekjes' 140bpmish+, very digital, massive layers of detuned sawtooths & distortion, but a very surgical & clean distortion. Some of it is proper shite tho... stay the fuck away from technoboy :rolleyes:

Cool thanks.

ReverzeBazz is an excellent sub-genre name...
 

tyranny

Well-known member
What is the lineage of hardstyle? I don't know much about it, presumed it was British (Very north of England and Scotland too) and an extension of Happy Hardcore - only ever heard it out in a room at a hardcore rave. It was quite exhilarating for a short while but then the one-to-the-floor monotony of it all overcame me. Well different crowd to the bassline raves at the same venue - i think the non-white punters could have been counted on one hand.

Shranz is some similarly rinsing techno variant right?!



Hardstyle is a Low Countries hybrid of Hard House with Gabber kicks

It sort of came about because as the Gabber culture aged a lot of the older Gabbers were a bit too old to last the pace in the main area of the raves, so they'd play something light and funky for the girls and the older crew - this being Gabber they ended up playing hard house, and it was from experiments there that Hardstyle was forged.

Pretty soon Hardstyle sort of took over from Gabber in the public imagination - plus it has the useful properties of not being associated with skulls, skinheads, the far right, the 90's, tracksuits, etc etc...

It's pretty much exactly what happened to Drum and Bass after UK Garage sucked all the women away...

I remember being at this street festival in a small Dutch provincial town - 7 lorries blasting out hardstyle to 30.000 people and one battered truck playing Gabber to three or four dozen Gabber heads in full regalia... But Gabber is provincial music nowadays...



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Jumpstyle pretty much started off with bunches of drunken teens in provincial nightclubs clowning around to hardstyle sets - it took on a life of it's own as dj's started making and playing records specifically to cater for that odd, ungracious, oompa loompa-like (but firmly and incongruously rooted in local folk traditions) style of dancing.

there's another thread to be made again about the popularity of the offbeat bassline in Trance and Hard House in areas where there is a strong ancestral culture of local Brass Bands with Tubas.
 
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U-Basstard

tragic mix
there's another thread to be made again about the popularity of the offbeat bassline in Trance and Hard House in areas where there is a strong ancestral culture of local Brass Bands with Tubas.

get it started fella, i'm completely fascinated with this thread. I tried to hint at the local dance style incorporation thing with Jumpstyle far less eloquently on a thread last year. Kids in the North East (Newc/Sund/m'bro) and Scotland do a skipping style to Makina/hard/happy house and bouncy shite, which could possibly be traced to traditional scots dancing (not sure of the name, but it's the one with the crossed swords laid out on the floor). The traditional element is definitely there though, i've Djed makina at a day centre for excluded kids and they all love getting on the mic with these set/standardised rhymes and cadences passed to them from older siblings, very much like trad folk songs. Some of the kids are fucking furious though, if they had the style and dexterity of the better grime MCs it would almost be worth paying them some attention.

 
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