Addiction

swears

preppy-kei
the moral relativism at the heart of your stance is one propagated by consumerism: it's all meaningless so just forget everything and have a laugh/cheeseburger (as long as the horrible things are not happening to your own privileged self)
I suffer so much, zhao, like you couldn't imagine. It's only fair that others suffer as well, there probably isn't enough suffering in the world for my liking.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
I suffer so much, zhao, like you couldn't imagine. It's only fair that others suffer as well, there probably isn't enough suffering in the world for my liking.
Dark shit, man.


Dark shit.




I like it.
 
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swears

preppy-kei
i'd be fucked if i had propensities towards drink.
Yeah, I like to drink, but I start to feel like I'm going to hurl before I get seriously plastered, so I have to go on the water 'til I sober up a bit. I physically could not be an alcoholic, thank god.
 

nomadthethird

more issues than Time mag
Just called AA. It got that bad.
Good luck! You'll need it. Don't hang out with those people too much, no matter what they say. Within seconds of hanging out with friends from a 12-step program you will all be drunk/high.

I used to drink one of these every morning (when I worked nights) to take the edge off while I waited for the delivery service to turn on their phones. But alcohol only made it to 5th on my diagnostic list of dependencies. So I'm allowed to drink wine.
 

nop3

New member
how i feel

I was in a rehab facility for 6 months due to drug issues, i finished the stay taking all that i felt i could from there. It has been 3 years since and i now drink on occasion and smoke some herb when in my creative atmosphere. I have been doing this for the past 2 years of being out. Now some would say im still an addict, that there is no moderate use for what i do? I mean a rehab facility is a company that provides help for addicts. With that said it is still a company. With any any company of course they want you to abide by their way of thinking, because thats why why you pay them right? Im not saying that i didn't get alot out of rehab, it was actually a life changing experience for me! I just think that you can take what you need out of it. I quit doing my drugs of choice because they where killing me, and if i cant trust myself enough to not do them anymore, then im dead already. Live your life the way you have chosen to live it, trust starts with yourself.

Im going to university in september, and i used to be an addict. So can you.
 

nop3

New member
If thats supposed to be disrespectful, please verify? Whats your opinion? you still think i have a problem?
 

woops

is not like other people
i don't know you and i don't have an opinion about you. sorry if my response came off as combative.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
If thats supposed to be disrespectful, please verify?
*CRRRKH* Eagle One, we have a suspected 'dis', please verify? *CRRRKH*

*CRRRKH* Roger, that's a negative, it's just British humour*CRRRKH*
 
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woops

is not like other people
There are two kinds of people indubitably. The question is where we draw the line.
Nabokov described those who sleep well and those who don't. As Kingsley Amis has it there's the attractive and the unattractive. I haven't read her stuff but Zadie Smith splits us into the organised and the disorganised.
why do we talk about philosophers and not sophophiles?
 

four_five_one

Infinition
I wouldn't read that. I believe that thinking about insomnia can cause insomnia. It's very hyperstituous.

I wonder how much of addiction is down to the substance itself and how much is down to situation (is alcoholism always an illness, not sometimes just a product of environment/other problems)? Seems like AA take it as axiomatic that the substance itself is the problem. But some people might just be in an environment that encourages drinking (like Russia) & because it's normative everything is chill until you realize your nightcap isn't just a g & t anymore, it's half a liter of vodka.

Or you might be drinking because you're depressed, anxious or just live in (seemingly) unbearable circumstances (drinking often makes them worse, naturally). I drank every day for three months or so, starting early afternoon and going on until the early hours. But this was due to circumstances I didn't like and wanted to be at a remove from, to kill the anxiety so engendered, little to do with any addiction to the substance itself.

Once I'd extricated myself from that situation, I just went back to 'drinking responsibly' without giving it much of a thought. But seems like according to AA, I should never drink again because I'm an alcoholic for life. It's a 'disease'.

Other times you might spend a week or two drinking heavily on a daily basis just for hedonistic reasons. Celebrating a divorce or something... (heavy drinking is perfectly normal in this set of circumstances, it's not pathological).

Of course, often it is a physical addiction to the substance itself though. And good luck to Craner.
 
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