doppelgangers

empty mirror

remember the jackalope
the subway scene reminds me of this video right down to the incongruous pastoral music

what to make of it?
negative energy as like, psychic/psychotic contagion? evil straining for symmetry.

the heinrich character was tops. would love to see udo kier reprising this role (though he's probably too old for the role)

and yeah, adjani was fantastic in this. only ever saw her in nosferatu, previously.

i would describe it to someone as godard's contempt mated with scenes from a marriage plus tentacles.

you can see how large a shadow it cast in the works of cronenberg and lynch (both mentioned earlier in this thread)

cinematography was staggering. there's this scene where sam neill's character was in a rocking chair, rocking wildly, with adjani in the background----the camera kept switching focus from neill to adjani perfectly as neill's face rocked in and out of the foreground----amazing stuff

i've stood at the sidelines of a few divorces and it does capture the sense of grand deteriorating and unravelling; in times of duress, one's notion of the real changes.

it is clear we are in their collective heads here----to the detriment of the viewer's sense of what is really happening...

riveting movie. i can't understand the lukewarm reviews i've read elsewhere. dissensians are on board, of course.
 

josef k.

Dangerous Mystagogue
Here is Steven Connor on Michel Serres, and doubles:

What makes The Parasite Serres’s most strained and painful book is the equilibrium he attempts to maintain between what he calls ‘good and bad Hermes’ (Serres 1982: 224), positive, open, inventive mediations and negative, murderous, entropic, epidemic mediations. In the work of the 1990s, Serres has tested these alternatives with respect to the biggest and most proliferating parasite or quasi-object that has ever arisen on history, the space of global communications. On the whole, these meditations have been hopeful. Atlas , in particular, proposes that we need a new way of thinking about and representing the world of communications that has already come about. All previous cartographies, whether geographical, biological, economic, or political, have depended upon the principle of logical noncontradiction expressed as a physical principle, namely that one cannot both be and not be where one is, one cannot be in one place and in another simultaneously This is the rule that seems to be set aside in the world of global communications that makes it possible for every periphery to be in the middle: a world without addresses that correspond to unique and determinate sets of coordinates in the physical world (Serres 1994: 205-6).

At the centre of the book – though how, given its argument, is this centre to be established? - is Serres’s reading of the Maupassant story about a man haunted by his invisible other, a horrifying being who represents the principle of being there and elsewhere at once: ‘Another puts himself in my place, an otherwhere (autre-là) or Horla puts itself in the place of being-there’ (Serres 1994: 79). The haunted man in Maupassant’s story thinks that his antipodean other may have originated on the other side of the world, in Brazil, in fact; but Serres reads the story in terms of what it predicts: the folding together of near and far, here and there, hors and là, the literalisation of the virtual in contemporary space. Serres recommends in his Atlas (1994) an expansion of categories and dimensions in philosophical writing, to take account of the emerging topological conditions and sensibilities of the modern world, a new universal in which ‘the milieu arises in every place’ (Serres 1994: 128). In this kind of thinking, everything comes down to, or perhaps, rather moves out from, prepositions:

VIA
 

empty mirror

remember the jackalope
doppelganger.jpg


^ from deadlydoppelgangers
(is the dopper a dissensian? he mentions k-punk in his blog...)
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
There is an Edgar Allen Poe story called William Wilson or something that has a scary almost-doppelganger and a pretty compelling adaptation with Alain Delon and Brigitte Bardot

 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
There is an Edgar Allen Poe story called William Wilson or something that has a scary almost-doppelganger and a pretty compelling adaptation with Alain Delon and Brigitte Bardot


I've got a book of Poe short stories that I ought to get stuck into sometime.

See also: Lovecraft's The Case Of Charles Dexter Ward.
 

woops

is not like other people
the last episode of the Prisoner, Fall Out, is the best imo and could also come with its own doppelganger warning, would love to say more but don't want to spoil either.
Surprised the thread has got this far without a mention of Kieslowski's Double Life of Veronique, I could do with rewatching that myself.
 

empty mirror

remember the jackalope
Kill, baby... Kill!

aw man, i watched Bava's excellent KILL, BABY... KILL! last night and i almost fell out of my chair when i caught this scene:
killbabykill11.jpg

dude chases himself through the same room over and over
black lodge in twin peaks anyone?

that article about david lynch being a directorial remixer rings true here
the villa graps would be at home in twin peaks
owls everywhere
kyle must have studied the physician in K,B...K! before he donned that black suit
stone-faced, odd.
 

slowtrain

Well-known member
Kind of unrelated, but when my Dad met his partner who is the exact same age as him (same year born) they found out that in her class at primary school, there was a boy with the exact same name and complexion (same hair colour, similar body structure) as him, it was pretty funny...
 

luka

Well-known member
i mentioned on the cafe oto thread (i think) how going there is terrifying becasue everyone looks exactly like me.
 

luka

Well-known member
there's not many spaces left where we mingle with people unlike us left, except where we are forced into it, as with public transport. even supermarkets and pubs are stratified.
 

linebaugh

Well-known member
Ive lost it, and I wouldn't if I had it, as I legitimately look exactly like this guy. Would be no different than just posting my own face. A friend showed it to me and I thought it was a photoshop
 

luka

Well-known member
woops mentioned to me that he tends to go out with women who look exactly like him execpt with more breast and less Adam's apple. this was in the context of me talking about all the gay couples who mirror each other almost exactly.
 

version

Well-known member
Kill, baby... Kill!

aw man, i watched Bava's excellent KILL, BABY... KILL! last night and i almost fell out of my chair when i caught this scene:
killbabykill11.jpg

dude chases himself through the same room over and over
black lodge in twin peaks anyone?

that article about david lynch being a directorial remixer rings true here
the villa graps would be at home in twin peaks
owls everywhere
kyle must have studied the physician in K,B...K! before he donned that black suit
stone-faced, odd.
@craner
 
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