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scottdisco

rip this joint please
it's almost like watching Tony Wilson trying to shoe-horn disparate musical events into his 'every seven years' theory or whatever the heck it was.

bring forward the Milwaukee McDonald's vouchers, eh, Anatole?!
 

scottdisco

rip this joint please
But just because the Labour dream is over, that doesn't mean the dreams of those who supported them have died. So where can those people turn to now?
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That same spirit should exist between the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats in other areas, too. That's because on so many progressive issues, there is strong agreement between our parties.
one progressive addresses another
 

hucks

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It's difficult to know where to start, but is it really excessively 1980s to point out that a guy who went to Eton, and is 9 months from becoming Prime Minister with a cabinet stuffed with Old Etonians might be the wrong person to lecture anyone on social mobility? It's like Sting's missus flying round the world by private jet to tell us all to cut carbon emissions.
 

scottdisco

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shush now! Dave is hoping you wouldn't mention that.

it's that sort of thing that made this David Mitchell article so accurate on Cameron.

Unlike Labour who, says Cameron, can barely "bring themselves to say the word 'cut'", he's all about the tough choices. Last week, he announced that he's going to slash ministerial salaries and MPs' perks. Wow! What a tough choice! People will hate that but it's got to be done! That's the kind of non-crowd-pleasing statesmanship that will save the nation.

He admits it'll only be a "pinprick compared to the total amounts of money" that the government will need to save, but what a courageous place to start.

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The solution is to tighten expenses rules but pay MPs more, but that's a difficult argument to win and politicians would have to be brighter to do it, particularly after they've all been caught pilfering House of Commons toiletries.

Ultimately, it's not in Cameron's interests. He doesn't need the money – many Tories don't. Lower pay and cutting things like each MP's communications allowance, which they'll then have to find from political funds, will always tend to benefit the right wing, the advocates of the rich. What sounds like selfless parsimony for those who aspire to govern translates as voicelessness for people without private wealth or contacts in big business. It turns out he's not stupid.
(about half way in Mitchell nails him with 'deft but hollow the measure of the man'.)
 

crackerjack

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It's difficult to know where to start, but is it really excessively 1980s to point out that a guy who went to Eton, and is 9 months from becoming Prime Minister with a cabinet stuffed with Old Etonians might be the wrong person to lecture anyone on social mobility? It's like Sting's missus flying round the world by private jet to tell us all to cut carbon emissions.
No, no, he acknowledged that in a speech a while back so the issue's done and dusted and if you bring it up you're not interested in social mobility, just perpetuating class war. Like people who complain about raising Inheritance Tax threshold to £1m.

it's that sort of thing that made this David Mitchell article so accurate on Cameron.
Indeed. It worked though - I thought the Tories had it tough between 97-02 but the soft ride they're getting now is outdoing even Blair's long honeymoon.
 

hucks

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No, no, he acknowledged that in a speech a while back so the issue's done and dusted and if you bring it up you're not interested in social mobility, just perpetuating class war. Like people who complain about raising Inheritance Tax threshold to £1m.
Was that the speech where he said he knew what a bad education would be like because he'd had such a good one? It's like saying you know what it's like to be poor because you are, in fact, rich. Hang on, it's not like that at all - it actually is that
 
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There is no doubt that a section of the British people are becoming extremely averse with the Islamic religion primarily due to the terrorism issue. However, it is a tiny minority adn no more than Islamic fundamentalists that want to bring about an Islamic state all over Europe.

In this day and age I doubt very much that history from the first part of last century can be repeated in a democratic Europe. However, only god knows what will happen in the next 20-30 yrs. If it does happen very unlikely then it will usher in a new world war and destruction of mankind.

Thats what I think anyways.
 
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