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Ecstasy, not joy, yes. Maybe, joy in a mix, in a night? It's late here, I'll leave you to it. Thank you.

He's got hoes in NY in DKNY Very close, but again, partay not joy. Fun isn't the same as joy, I don't think. I don't have a religious background but mebbe being over whatsit with it, but I don't think so. I went over alot of the Bad Boy stuff when I was researching this, cos love it, but just...

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We all are. Playing the dominos of life.

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Obviously Curtis is genius. Me? I never found him joyous at all, see what Barty said (explained it better than me). I love Curtis but no. Maybe all the joy has gone in me. Looking at it, some people say joy is a thing that you live with, some people say joy isn't pleasure. I equate joy with an...

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I went to Escape From Samsara once at The Fridge, in its Crowleyian heyday. I thought I'd enjoy it. I stood there for an hour with a huuuuuge black cloud over my head and a guy came up to me and said "You OK m8? You look like you're having a bad trip". Wasn't me that was having the bad trip.

hehe spin the wheel. I don't really HATE anything except Joni Mitchell.

So yeah you're right. Songs like that, please.

mistersloane be like : I hate this, this is shit oh wait this is fun oh this is really good fun oh this is reaaaaaaally good fun oh I'm happy oh I'm reaaaaaaallly happy *superblaster* oh I'm joyous then God is love etc etc

Gary Numan is just this perpetual plateau, whereas Depeche always went for the immanence. I don't particularly like either of them (see also Davis and Coltrane) which is why I kinda translated them into it. Obviously listen and appreciate all of them etc etc.

Good call actually, haven't thought about the earlier electro stuff. That Tyler album is really interesting. I don't like it but I'm really happy he made it.

Great definition and reason, brilliant thank you

Super great - never heard that before - but party not joy.

S Club - not Reach? why not? - are associated with hard time in my life, so unfortunately can't listen to them without crying, really crying not joy crying - so can't go there. Why not Reach though?

yeah interesting. I don't think I've had - in personal life - transcendence without joy. I've been thinking alot about your Miles n Coltrane stuff, but obviously translating it into Gary Numan and Depeche Mode.

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Actually yeah pretty good call. I dunno if joy, I think I'd put it at Esmiley, which is nearly joy. But good call.

yeah I think that about the original but the 4hero one kinda smooves over Minnie's...stuff. I get what you're saying with the Aretha - I've tried a few of hers but they don't make me cry, never have. The Rose Royce one is lovely but doesn't have transcendence for me, which is I think a key...