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Sorry didn't spot this sentence. Yeah you're right actually, for the point he was making it was valid. I just skim read and got itchy keyboard fingers.

yeah and a couple of boddika tunes. Did you listen to the Wascal tune? Not many Amen drills or musique concrete breakdowns. And by speedy he means 140bpm, we're not talking gabba here. I mean yes, this is an outsider's take on a genre...but I think it's unfair to align anybody and everybody...

P.S. this is an absolute STORMER. BIG up Wascal :D

What is it with you lot and comparing anything not completely 100% bred-on-the-estates hardcore to the most obstruse IDM you can think of? Shades of grey. I know you're just making an analogy but the choice of artists is telling.

I haven't read Simon Reynolds' new book but I'm guessing this hyper-awareness of the mechanisms of the music's development & self-reflexiveness would be one of his arguments for why the internet has made EVERYTHING SHIT EVER. I agree with you though.

This is it though, another sicko cell or footcrab will kill it, ridiculous hype which no single tune could ever live up to, stifles creativity and slows the output while everybody bombards loefah's email account asking when this one tune will be pressed. Sicko Cell was so strange, I don't think...

Swamp81 on Rinse til 1. I'd say they're pretty much the most consistent and interesting sound coming through (along with hessle), and it increasingly sounds more like bouncy, percussive techno/electro than anything else. Sounding great at the moment.

It's shit like that that makes me not that fucking bothered when arts funding gets cut...BBC & arts council heads are, by their nature, clueless twats

Pretty much sounds like somebody made some Juke, bounced it out and then pitched the whole file down some. Which reminds me - as a relative novice of this stuff, I was wondering if any of the current producers ever dip below about 155? Or is that just the scene standard these days?

This is off topic, sorry, but the new Chrissy Murderbot and Machinedrum albums, both on planet Mu, are working that 145-160 range. You can hear juke, jungle and (in the case of machinedrum) weird weightless, spacey hip-hop in there but some of the tracks are a really interesting hybrid...

raa! fast is the new slow! it does seem like a relatively unmined tempo region, >140 / <160 would be very interested if other dubsteppers start picking it up.

Also Corpsey... I'm totally with you here. Although I've found paradoxically that as you really internalise a particular technical aspect of something, it becomes easier to put the technicals to one side and just enjoy it. Totally off-topic example: when i first saw Venetian Snares play all...

On the contrary man, your answers are never anything but coherent - but with that piece it feels like maybe word limit played more of a part in editing decisions than it should have done. maybe that's just me...I'm a sucker for a 6000 word marathon sesh

In his defence, Ben slightly backs down from his comment about trainspotters when pushed... Arguably this scene, and the tendency for DJs to dig things out of the archives, mix old and new etc., is a honeypot for trainspotter types - I'm sure it's been complained on here before about how it's...

That interview is a disappointment, getting those three together on record has been long overdue and they basically aren't given a chance to settle into it. Jackmaster's comment about not dancing any more is really on point though I think. It feels like the more absorbed you become in a scene...

I'm no expert here but isn't this just sort of sub-swedish house mafia chart fodder? Much prefer stuff from the north when they do loads of speed and jump around.

Saw him do anti war dub to an empty room at Goldsmiths SU two years ago when I had no idea who he was. I remember thinking "well this is a classic Goldsmiths conceit, taking something great and completely missing the point". Having said that I've since enjoyed a lot of James Blake's stuff and I...

I promise I'll stop hogging the thread after this, but that teeth track reminds me - does anyone know of any other >140 stuff kicking around? I know gremino makes faster stuff, but otherwise it all seems to be 'future garage'...

and yes fine Lory D would be making techno whether numbers released it or not, but the fact that they are signifies something for this scene, they're obviously not marketing the record to Italians.

Numbers are a grey area if you ask me. Obviously they're satellites of this whole scene but they (or their ancestor labels) were releasing acid, bmore etc. etc. while everyone else was still suckling at Mala's teat (well...2008)