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Nope.... If you think that Crunk saved hip hop then you've never heard Hip Hop in your life before. Lyrical content? Songs about sex with strippers, smoking weed, selling crack, beating people up in crowded clubs, shooting people outside of clubs with shotguns and getting oral sex from...

The truth hurts... I'm an idiot because I think Crunk music sucks? I grew up during the Golden Eras Of Hip Hop (1986-1989 & 1992-1996) listening to Marley Marl, Ced Gee, Paul C, Large Professor, Pete Rock, DJ Premier, Dr. Dre, Prince Paul, The Bomb Squad, SD 50's, Organized Noise, Boogie Down...

Sorta Yes, the difference between Jay-z and Crunk is the difference between well thought out art and barely acceptable noise with guttural screaming for effect and simple, vulgar call and response hooks. The distance between Crunk and Grime is that Hip Hop purists HATE Crunk and they may give...

The Second Generation ALWAYS becomes bigger! The ones that ACTUALLY pave the way NEVER receive the fruits of their labor financially or in acceptance from the masses! Flash is always going to be regarded as a better DJ than Kool Herc and Jazzy Jay was a better DJ than Bambattaa. Spoonie Gee...

I feel you Logan, the reason I started this thread in Dissensus was to hear and read what the thoughts of people in closest proximity to the UK Garage/Grime scene had to say about the music, culture, history and current events involving the music/scene. As a Hip Hop expert of sorts, I would...

Nope. That's exactly why I think that it WOULD be embraced in the States...and by blow up I don't mean become "popular". I think it can become a scene just like Crunk, Screwed, Hyphy or Reggaeton. It isn't completely separate. There isn't a music form that exists that isn't a derivation or...

That's crazy! I remember that happening during an MTV interview with Kurt Loder way back in either 1998 or 1999. He said he never heard of drum n' bass in his entire life...I thought that he, Lemon D and Dilinja from the Metalheadz were all sharing a brain at the time if you listened to their...

Yes Yeah, I'd actually have to agree with that one. I find that interesting because Atlanta and Texas already have their own sub genres of Hip Hop/culture popping off there (Crunk/Screwed). I'd think that the East to the Midwest would relate more because they don't have another sub genre of the...

What? I see Grime fitting in New York, Boston, New England, Philadelphia, Delaware, Maryland, Washington D.C., and in the Midwest (Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, Indiana) and pretty much that's it..all of those urban areas could really get into it in my opinion. One.

Problem? I actually don't consider them Hip Hop. Crunk is the authentic music that the people in Memphis, Atlanta and surrounding areas listen to in the clubs and cars there. Yeah! isn't Crunk, neither is anything Ciara makes...it does make Lil' Jon a VIABLE producer in Urban/Pop music in...

Exactly! Logan, that's EXACTLY the way I feel about Hip Hop and it's surrounding culture...also my definition of "blowing up" is meaning that it's an art form that is recognized, accepted and embraced in the States the same way Hip Hop is in the UK. All you can ask of urban music is to bring...

Forillion? A lot of Londoners have e-mailed and told me in order for Grime to blow in the US it FIRST has to blow in the UK. I've had people tell me that they prefer Broken Beat to Grime. Some have said that all Grime/Eski is to them is noise that is terribly inferior to UK Hip Hop...I feel...

Yeah Imagine if technology like we have today existed back in the South Bronx in 1972-1976 during the early days of Hip Hop much the way it did during the evolution of UKG/Eski/Grime from 2001-2005? The spread of the music wouldn't have needed the Wild Style and Kitchen Tours to really spread...

What If.... What if kids/heads in the US started MAKING Grime/Eski tracks? If that started happening, THEN do you think it would be possible for it to make headway in the States? Secondly, would Brits be offended if Americans made their own brand of Garage/Eski/Grime music? One.

Mistake? I would have bet big on Kano or Roll Deep (available now that their deal is done with their former label) instead of Sov. I've heard her ENTIRE catalog and she blew because of the success of Ch-Ching! and her diss of that chick Jentina. Her songs are too hook heavy and the music is...

It can happen! I'm a hip hop head who has boys from London/UK and I've been into international hip hop since the early 90's (I've ran a couple of record stores in my time as well so I'm a music/culture student). As a kid who grew up during the Golden Ages Of Hip Hop (1986-1989) & (1992-1996)...

As a lifelong American Hip Hop head I'm curious to know if anyone here thinks that either UK Hip Hop or Grime can ever blow up overseas? Please explain why or why not in detail. Also, if you'd prefer for it NOT TO explain why as well. Are Americans too ignorant or arrogant in your opinion to...