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So Grime would still be OK then? ;)

You don't HAVE to listen to it, there is a certain amount of personal choice involved here. But OK, if you really must posion us with your views, please restrict them to the artists who's wages you are funding. Ho hum, it's been a slow day.

May I suggest, then, that people who wish to discuss music are made to stand before a group of musicians to explain why they should be allowed to discuss it. After all, there are enough people talking bollocks about music without the need for any more.

I'll assume you're trolling, since that is such a ridiculous suggestion.

Fuck me, that's proper rubbish.

Fuck the binder, buy the records. They're fantastic and very reasonably priced too - £4.99 each. Bargain.

Hi Logan, thnx for sharing this info - could you please tell me who does WL's this cheap? I have only seen them come in around 6-700, unless the above price exludes VAT and / or mastering. cheers, Matt

Judging by what gets discussed here, I realise that many of you probably won't be too into techno but I saw a thread about Mathew Johnson the other day which made me think it's worth posting this after all. It's a recording of the debut liveset I played on Saturday, using Ableton Live + DJ...

"Atmosphere" by Russ Abbott

Saw DJ'ing him a few years ago at The Clinic, it was mesmerising to watch him. He was slamming the tunes into the mix before he had matched the beats and kept the tracks in time by winding the vinyl with his one hand whilst pitching it up. He got through an amazing amount of tunes in the two...

La la la, not listening. ;) Look, Playford was part of 2 Bad Mice and can therefore do no wrong in my eyes.

Yeah right - that's what HE says. A likely story.

Do you think Martin was right to cheat on Sonia (Eastenders)? I reckon she's a right dog and he should get rid anyway.

:D Regarding Rob Playford - didn't he fall out with Goldie, hence the album after Timeless being a heap of shit? As far as I know Playford runs Moving Shadow these days.

God forbid that he should grow as an artist. Time for the backlash is it? :rolleyes:

I agree that a lot of the output does have that dull-as-ditchwater sound that's reminiscent of tech step. However, there is some deeper stuff out there like Kode 9 / Artwork / Digital Mystikz, who I think are leading the way at the moment. Some of the stuff on Rag n Bone is also very good...

Out of interest, what is it that you find so terrible about the dubstep sound? Personally, I didn't rate the Mark One album and have only heard a couple of decent tunes by Plasticman. Come to think of it, there is a lot of gash being released but that's the same with any genre isn't it?

Ambient Grime? Well, Kode 9's Sign of the Dub / Stalker 10" has a track which doesn't have a beat but is pretty heavy and absorbing. Doubt if he'd be happy about it being called Ambient Grime though!

Currently working on a live set of techno type tracks - not yer banging one's but those of a deeper and, hopefully, twisted variety. Got more details and some older tracks for download here: http://www.randomtag.com. Been getting more and more influenced by the sounds coming out of Croyden and...

Hello. I see may of you here are well into the blog ting. Don't really bother with em myself but am a sucker for a good forum (not the mag). So is this where the UKD'ers come when they want to talk about music? Matt