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That seems a core quality of riotous rebellions though, from the marginal petty to the grand scale historic ones. That drunk 13 year old thrill of smashing up a bus stop with your mates. Mania goonery revelry abandon, running with the wolves.

Weird, for me that's the one element that lifts out of functional hum drum virtual chill out and makes it feel like it's related to or addressing actual life in any way. Listen to it on headphones in transit while vaguely introspecting I guess

not sure that is counter evidence at all though. Its totally possible to love something utterly without willingly, or unwillingly, recreating it. yeh its all super interesting but theres also a lot of counter claims. Theres a set of native american people from a specific location who believe...

this thread title. 90s ambient jungle is fucking shit, the whole proposition of it is dysfunctional. "chilling out" over sped up breakbeats, it most times creates a dull conflicted zone, not generative-ly paradoxical like a complex system, but counter-productive. im not sure anyone back then was...

so much of electronic music is people trying to transform music into graphic design. in both process of production and consumption approach. feel like this is really what mo wax represented. people love it though, looking at music that way. i enjoy some of the products of that too but something...

there was a crazy elasticity to the vocal styles around this time and place. Elasticity of pitch, upredictable, flicking up and down, and stop-start bunching up then stretching out of syllables and spaces inbetween, jerking and bending. That hyper supple teenage energy and into calcification...

Yeah it had a strong charms for that reason but was a bit tragic seeing how many fully attached to it , it's too thin to be any lasting genre . Fuck all examples of good tunes that came of it. Whereas the bedroom lofi rave thing seems kind of endless, perpetual .

Nowadays ofc users have to work against the grain of computer tooling for it to sound or look pedestrian; it wants to glide you toward corporate level gloss . adobe creative cloud , apple logic etc. I don't think it's weirdly disingenuous or retro for new young creators to try to push against...

I think there are real parallels between the hobbyist technical artistry of these 90s visual art attempts and the technical artistry of the new rave music. Both camps were exploring new computer tools that were available on floppy disks on magazine covers. Bedroom nerd gangs feeding off each...

prerhaps indie's impossible to get into unless you can accept the structures of pre mid 20thC anglo/british isles folk song, or at least the derived appalachian song form. the genre seems like a studio superstructure built over those foundations, like it's defined by absence of swing, blues or...

In 1998 Cher’s auto tune mangled croning dominated radio & tv. that impossible stepped pitched vocal sound forced itself into everyones conscious . in the video she appears as some kind post human rave ai goddess. more spirit creature than the 1980s robo/computer association of the vocoder...

This has the more muscular ambition of post 97 dnb but still has something, a more successful hybrid of rnb and techy Chicago ambience with jungle. A space which instantly calcified when fabio and them forced an ugly brand around it. “Liquid”. Blugh. The word applied as a genre sounds awful...

Was there a particular event, a specific listening experience, that provoked this ? Since then, you only permit yourself youtube links, via referral from someone , that right?

It is a slight mess, but I think that’s a product of some qualities of late burial that I value more than classic untrue burial. his late stuff tends toward falling apart far more frequently and more throughly than untrue-b. Untrue-b is carefully balanced , interally emo but outwardly...

this isnt even a flute just a square wave but i think itsy notable how the closely the grime square monolead maps onto the form and function of the flute, and fully how grime embraced a virtualization of that instrument type and held it centrally to its core actually Ruff Squad "Pied Piper"...

you can end that debate friend, thats a synth, that trill at 2.49, its a gliding mono synth. jungle seemed to have no interest in flute loops, too wistfully pastoral or something. Rap can utilize that connotation in a way that the jungle rave impulse couldnt. There was a hidden agenda tune...

this is the literal opposite of the unhinged squak you've specified. But when talking brass & hip hop, that whole stiff militaristic mid-00s heatmakerz sound deserves mentioning, because its so spectacular. Probably more historically productive too. any flimsy excuse to post dipset will do tbh...

both claims feel true, as the verse and chorus belong to different songs. They feel from different time and places, different temperatures, mismatched contours. The songs contains individually promising stories, but there’s no interplay. You have to chose which one to go with. its quite fucked...