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  1. J

    rolling back to the future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step etc thread

    Pithy. But also bollocks. This place is troll heaven eh? Cheerio, I'll see you in another 18 months.
  2. J

    rolling back to the future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step etc thread

    I'm listening but I'm starting to wish I wasn't. It's very clear why you like what you like, very clear indeed :p - but what I'm saying is that you can't extrapolate from that to the generalised statements that you're making. You're getting value judgements and statements of fact mixed up...
  3. J

    rolling back to the future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step etc thread

    Who said anything about "acceptable"? You accept what you like! You like the music you call "street" and you think music that isn't "street" is less good, fine. But that's your taste, not a definition of how scenes, sounds and rhythms are constructed. I didn't even say I was against "street"...
  4. J

    rolling back to the future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step etc thread

    100% bullshit. Differentiation, discernment, sensibility DO NOT have to mean separating everything out into two sides of the fence all the fucking time. It's just something people to do make things neater, for easy understanding, or so that they can claim alleigance to or ownership over the...
  5. J

    rolling back to the future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step etc thread

    Leaving aside the fact that you sidestepped my question about Silkie and dropped in Joy Orbison instead, for some reason....... I'm with Kodwo Eshun on the use of "street" as a description of music or culture.
  6. J

    rolling back to the future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step etc thread

    Well that's a far clearer explanation - but why would you want "the same buzz"? Different sounds = different buzzes. Nothing wrong with that. If you like raw music, buy raw music and go to club nights that only play raw music. Disagree it's about production value though - I'd say, for...
  7. J

    rolling back to the future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step etc thread

    Just not true, and again the false binary: hardcore vs non-hardcore. You're so keen to draw that magic line between the good-authentic-cool-hardcore and the false-weak-studenty-impure-non-hardcore, that everything you say is an act of drawing the line, rather than actually referring to the...
  8. J

    rolling back to the future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step etc thread

    Amen, Gremino. It's a time of flux. Some people, whether it's Butterz, Numbers, MJ Cole, Antisocial, Eglo, Hyperdub or whoever, are embracing the breakdown of genre boundaries, so it's a good time for them. Others prefer to be part of a definable scene, so maybe this is a time for them to...
  9. J

    rolling back to the future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step etc thread

    See: false binary. You bundle all the stuff you don't like as THAT music, the OTHER stuff, the music against which your favourite styles are defined as harder, better, slicker, rougher, realer, more contemporary, more authentic or whatever. It's a common tactic, and in some senses maybe it's...
  10. J

    rolling back to the future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step etc thread

    I'm sure those other writers are happy to have you as a disciple.
  11. J

    rolling back to the future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step etc thread

    That's an oddly anti-intellectual stance to take for a forum like this, and not what I was talking about anyway. I simply meant the music sounds like it was made by reflective people. And you know what, so is a lot of gonzo-sounding music. Iggy Pop is a reflective person too, and you can hear...
  12. J

    rolling back to the future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step etc thread

    Hello, this is fundamentally a non topic really, isn't it? False binaries everywhere. I wrote this in the sleeve notes for the Hot Flush compilation:
  13. J

    no smoke - International Smoke Signal (please)

    Bang The Party was Kid Bachelor not Thorpe.... but yes a few of both of their tracks were really way ahead of their time.
  14. J

    no smoke - International Smoke Signal (please)

    Near anything on Warriors Dance is essential... Bang Bang You're Mine... Release Your Body... Joy (with Robert Owens)... emotionally rich and right at the heart of the birth of so many strands of dance music.
  15. J

    redshape

    yeah Sleeparchive just played it too straight... there's a lot to be said for sleek and slick but I dunno it didn't have much rawness. The only Sleeparchive release that really moved me was 'Dusty Galaxies' and that was a different person, right? I think Redshapes got as much of that aggro...
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    redshape

    Oh christ is 2008 the Year Of Wonk or something? :( :( :( :( :( I think he's distinctively spiky enough to differentiate v clearly from CC; him and T++ have got me excited about techno in a way that nothing much else has for along time. There's a killer live set doing the rounds online...
  17. J

    the nuum back lash

    I can't believe that anyone argues pro- or anti-"nuum". As it originally stood it was a tracing of A line of connection between several quite diverse musical sounds. That is A line that connects SOME qualities of the music and surrounding culture. Not THE essence of the bloody music. It's a...
  18. J

    essential jungle/D&B compilations

    Dunno if it's been mentioned but the <a...
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