Dematerialisation.
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CrowleyHead
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To make Lo-Fi Black Metal without any musical direction is basically cosplay with soundtracking which a lot of those guys are doing. Most of metal does that these days.
There's a easy connection to that aesthetic and the infantilization of consumerism (and of metal) or what haves but sleep beckons larger and just stating it kind of provides easy breadcrumbs.
There's a easy connection to that aesthetic and the infantilization of consumerism (and of metal) or what haves but sleep beckons larger and just stating it kind of provides easy breadcrumbs.
firefinga
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Another interesting point, regarding the omnipresence of the internet - there is the old notion of God as the all-seeing-eye. The Snowden affair had strong resemblence to this idea - it was just that God got exchanged with the NSA spy programmes.
luka
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well this is EXACTLY the new theology which is being cooked up in silicon valley with everyone competing to play John the Baptist to the coming AI messiah.
i really think this is worth paying attention to (is lurid, is bizzare, is revealing) and i'm glad you brought it up.
how is the technology transformed and projected in our fantasies and fears? think along the lines of Mike Davis' treatment of pulp fiction and film in city of quartz. the apocalyptic element, the race wars etc etc
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luka
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to filter out the threads of the future we probably need a finer sieve than 'reactive' / 'active'
as everything is in a mixed condition, alloys and emulsions.
firefinga
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Also "Alexa" .... very reminiscent.
And then you have those silicon valley presentations - looking like evangelists, priests - especially Steve jobs - the Messiah figure of the digital age.
pattycakes_
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Apple's got a lot to answer for wrt this topic. Aesthetic based lifestyles.
It's a computer.
"Technology should be beautiful"
Mhmm.
And not that it shouldn't. But there's some deep psychology behind the branding there. How many of you are on a mac right now?
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luka
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i think infantilisation is the precise reason this song doesn't work for me. there are aspects which catch and snag at me but mostly it is smooth and rounded and so doesn't leave any impression but a kind of hollowness. i think the relations it suggests and maps out are the province of the child and the idiot.
luka
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and on that topic i want to copy and paste a series of emails i sent to flesh out what i mean by infantilisation in this context
there's a sense, isn't there, in which a piece of dance music is simulataneoulsy
a kind of score for a dance or a series of movements. albeit with a wide scope for interpretation.
and obviously it you trace it back to source it starts as a pattern of movements,
literal movements of limbs and fingers.so one set of movements makes a score
for another, more expressive, freer, but also to some degree circumscribed,
set of movements.
obviously this is part of what gets lost with dematerialisation/digitisation etc
this kind of pattern recognition and pattern learning and internalising is a large part
of the fun isn't it. when i last saw my little niece (shes about 6) she was obsessed with
the floss dance
because growing up is essentially a process of learning how to operate your
earth-suit, getting to grips with the technology. how to extend an arm and push
away or grab on, how to move towards or away from any given thing, how to
produce and modulate vocables etc etc etc and dance seems to be a fundamental
part of that process and an elaboration of that process. the kind of excess and refinement
and turning that process into game/art/social ritual.
and as i've said before, learning to move in time with another person as a precursor
to sex etc etc
which is part of why new rhythmic templates seem so vital but equally why
it seems arbitrary if it is not dance-functional (i.e. experimental). you sever it from its social and developmental function.
there's a sense, isn't there, in which a piece of dance music is simulataneoulsy
a kind of score for a dance or a series of movements. albeit with a wide scope for interpretation.
and obviously it you trace it back to source it starts as a pattern of movements,
literal movements of limbs and fingers.so one set of movements makes a score
for another, more expressive, freer, but also to some degree circumscribed,
set of movements.
obviously this is part of what gets lost with dematerialisation/digitisation etc
this kind of pattern recognition and pattern learning and internalising is a large part
of the fun isn't it. when i last saw my little niece (shes about 6) she was obsessed with
the floss dance
because growing up is essentially a process of learning how to operate your
earth-suit, getting to grips with the technology. how to extend an arm and push
away or grab on, how to move towards or away from any given thing, how to
produce and modulate vocables etc etc etc and dance seems to be a fundamental
part of that process and an elaboration of that process. the kind of excess and refinement
and turning that process into game/art/social ritual.
and as i've said before, learning to move in time with another person as a precursor
to sex etc etc
which is part of why new rhythmic templates seem so vital but equally why
it seems arbitrary if it is not dance-functional (i.e. experimental). you sever it from its social and developmental function.
luka
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so the experimental is in some sense that which isolates itself from the time-flow and its own moment of history, its co-ordinate points, it brackets that historical location and escapes into abstraction.
in so doing it opens up formal possibilities but also doesnt access the true, deep magic.
in so doing it opens up formal possibilities but also doesnt access the true, deep magic.
luka
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in light of the above i have to ask myself if the really quite intense discomfort and irritation this causes me is the result of a new rhythmic template i am not ready to integrate.
luka
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yes i will have to watch this film. it sounds important.
luka
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this is the fundamental misunderstanding of my position. i am saying we are currently in the process of manifesting the impossible. it is happening.
we are in a special moment of history. something new is being born but we need to be very clever and most of all exquisitely sensitive and perceptive in how we negotiate it
luka
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that was my distinction. and yes it feels the walls are closing in but also the rules are changing. don't shut down. don't let depression be the loudest voice. keep the membrane porous and pay attention.
it won't happen all at once but i think it will happen. we might not all get out so stay alert.