Patrick Swayze
I'm trying to shut up
yh cos it causes the most friction and gets them the most media traction
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yh cos it causes the most friction and gets them the most media traction
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
well yes, it does cause the most friction, because it intimidates local people. Which is the main point of marching in the first place, from their point of view.
Btw there was virtually no coverage of the W'stow event in the mainstream media, just in the local W'stow press, from what I could see.
My main point is just that fascism doesn't go away if you ignore it, however stupid/clueless/motivated by general alienation you think the people involved are.
Btw there was virtually no coverage of the W'stow event in the mainstream media, just in the local W'stow press, from what I could see.
My main point is just that fascism doesn't go away if you ignore it, however stupid/clueless/motivated by general alienation you think the people involved are.
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Patrick Swayze
I'm trying to shut up
I don't think it becomes more powerful if you ignore it either though. I don't think fascism needs to be 'fought' basically. in fact I think that usually just gives people the opportunity to act on their fascist tendencies (which I think we all have) without being labelled or ostracised by the particular group they call home.
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
People become bolder if they see that there's no inhibition to acting/speaking just as hatefully as they like.
This is just as true for an EDL demo as it is in a personal context - if, for example, you are in a group and someone makes a comment you regard as prejudiced, then the best way to register that that is unacceptable, is to say something. If you ignore it, that kind of behaviour becomes normalised, and they will do it again.
Obviously on a political level, this is also true for the Tories' policies. I'd have been pretty emboldened by the lack of public uprising against the NHS privatisation, if I was in that cabinet. Seemingly they can do almost anything they want, and public resistance will be minimal - the next election is the only worry.
This is just as true for an EDL demo as it is in a personal context - if, for example, you are in a group and someone makes a comment you regard as prejudiced, then the best way to register that that is unacceptable, is to say something. If you ignore it, that kind of behaviour becomes normalised, and they will do it again.
Obviously on a political level, this is also true for the Tories' policies. I'd have been pretty emboldened by the lack of public uprising against the NHS privatisation, if I was in that cabinet. Seemingly they can do almost anything they want, and public resistance will be minimal - the next election is the only worry.
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Patrick Swayze
I'm trying to shut up
nah if someone made a prejudiced comment and was then ignored for the rest of the time they spent in that group, they'd either leave or rethink.
and if everyone consistently refused to vote politicians would have to recognise a lack of belief in our current political structure as a whole.
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
I meant ignore the prejudiced comment, rather than ignore everything else they said.
why do you think that doesn't happen, given the levels of disillusionment with the present system? Also, the voting levels are pretty low anyways, imo.
sufi
lala
not sure how this thread got ooff the subject of chemical zombification - but since we're off on a tangent how's about: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/332593
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
Think I led it on the tangent.
What the hell is this digitaljournal.com? "Violent, far-left UAF backed by British Prime Minister David Cameron" - sounds fucking crazed.
What the hell is this digitaljournal.com? "Violent, far-left UAF backed by British Prime Minister David Cameron" - sounds fucking crazed.
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/sep/12/myths-uk-far-right-politics?newsfeed=true
interesting regarding that tangent
You might be interested in the first part of this podcast.
http://www.againstthegrain.org/program/626/mon-111212-zombies-labor-and-catastrophism
The speaker sees zombies and vampires as the most common horror tropes as they reflect the fears of capitalist society. He draws a bit too long a bow in my opinion but it's an interesting talk nonetheless.
