droid
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I wouldnt be willing to take that chance myself. The stakes are immense.
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I wouldnt be willing to take that chance myself. The stakes are immense.
I'm not sure I would either. Thankfully, I don't make these decisions though I'm not sure the people making them are much better equipped than me, temperamentally. Does bring up the question though, at what point do you challenge genocidal fascism? It's always going to be fraught with danger.
BTW - in light of that article, a more informed perspective on 2013 from someone directly involved: http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/syriasource/leaving
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
agree 100% w/droid here
Turkey + Israel strikes were a different story. airstrikes that (in global terms) go mostly unnoticed v different from public U.S./Russia staredown, i.e. ineluctable logic of brinksmanship.
respect yr sincerity danny but the hard truth is the immense risk isn't worth the relatively marginal payoff
may have been a point several years ago when that equation was different but that was then + this is now
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Sixth, not second. Not that that's much better.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Well that's based on the government's own brag. Aggregate figures for the last several years suggest sixth place. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/world-s-largest-exporters-of-arms.html I'm not quibbling that it's a huge amount of weapons however you slice it.
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Pretty much a straight Assadist with business links to the Assad family, IIRC, presumably these links were cultivated in his ambassadorial post.
Bit of info here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/22/former-uk-ambassador-linked-to-assad-lobby-group/
A former British ambassador to Syria who appeared on the BBC to defend the Assad regime had already become a director of a lobby group run by the dictator’s father in law.
Peter Ford, 59, courted controversy this month by claiming that President Bashar al-Assad would not have carried out the chemical gas attack on his own people.
Now the Telegraph can reveal that just weeks before the April 4 attack Mr Ford had become a director of the controversial British Syrian Society.
This was founded by Fawaz Akhras, a London-based cardiologist whose daughter Asma is married to President Assad, and is closely linked to the regime, frequently accused of acting as its mouthpiece in the west.
According to documents filed at Companies House, Mr Ford - who has been accused of supporting the Syrian regime in the past - was appointed a director of the society on February 28 this year.
A former British ambassador to Syria who appeared on the BBC to defend the Assad regime had already become a director of a lobby group run by the dictator’s father in law.
Peter Ford, 59, courted controversy this month by claiming that President Bashar al-Assad would not have carried out the chemical gas attack on his own people.
Now the Telegraph can reveal that just weeks before the April 4 attack Mr Ford had become a director of the controversial British Syrian Society.
This was founded by Fawaz Akhras, a London-based cardiologist whose daughter Asma is married to President Assad, and is closely linked to the regime, frequently accused of acting as its mouthpiece in the west.
According to documents filed at Companies House, Mr Ford - who has been accused of supporting the Syrian regime in the past - was appointed a director of the society on February 28 this year.
A perspective from a Syrian voice (strangely unheard in this debacle) from a year back: http://notris.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/should-syrians-be-thankful-to-trump-for.html
Syrian voices are constantly trampled on. Syrian civil society has been very active, and has been very vocal. Unfortunately, their voices and their narratives are often trampled upon. Like the simplest things. Media outlets continue to call it a civil war, taking away the value of the idea that there was a revolution in Syria, and in many places, there continues to be, on a smaller scale, revolution in Syria. And so not acknowledging their narratives, the people living inside of Syria, and their needs and their wants, is then problematic. And they're not giving that narrative back. The international community needs to help, the media needs to help with that, you need to listen to Syrians, that's all I'm trying to say
Syrian voices are constantly trampled on. Syrian civil society has been very active, and has been very vocal. Unfortunately, their voices and their narratives are often trampled upon. Like the simplest things. Media outlets continue to call it a civil war, taking away the value of the idea that there was a revolution in Syria, and in many places, there continues to be, on a smaller scale, revolution in Syria. And so not acknowledging their narratives, the people living inside of Syria, and their needs and their wants, is then problematic. And they're not giving that narrative back. The international community needs to help, the media needs to help with that, you need to listen to Syrians, that's all I'm trying to say