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    Strange word. Good word. What are these things? Feelings? Do you have them? What are they? How important are they? Are you 'in touch with your feelings?'

    I did a search for feelings and the only thread we've got is one advocating bottling up your feelings.
    Have we changed? Or is this still our default position?

    How can you discover what your feelings are? Are they obvious or are they furtive and secretive?

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    'Feelings' can be tyrannical. Emotional blackmail.

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    Feelings can be irrational. Dangerous.

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    A timid concern for the emotions of others can trap everyone in a stifling cave of pleasant. The middle class dining room. 'Niceness is evil.'

    A lack of concern for the feelings of others is boorish, self-serving, destroys any possibility of the social.

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    Grey Area.
    It is a mistake to assume that feelings are close at hand, familiar,
    easily recognisable and categorised.
    Feelings can come camouflaged, or disguised as their opposites.
    They may be out of earshot, even when they are screaming.
    The rare can be mistaken for the commonplace,
    the commonplace for the seldom seen.

    Feelings are difficult. Feelings are elusive.
    Often the close at hand is hardest to see, never more so
    than when it is all that is seen,
    large enough to fill the entire field of vision.
    Similarly, a feeling may persist for such a length of time
    That it is mistaken for a condition of existence.

    Feelings are spectral. ďIs this love,
    is this love, is this love
    that Iím feeling?Ē
    Or is it something else, or nothing
    at all?

    Sometimes feelings make us cry.
    Sometimes, a feeling is so voluptuous
    we prolong it artificially,
    fanning its embers,
    crouched over
    its
    glowing
    coal.

    Or,
    We try to strangle our feelings
    before they grow too large to house,
    and too difficult to control.
    Or,
    we disown them,
    thinking them beneath
    or above
    us,
    too
    gauche
    or,
    too
    high-
    flown.

    We cannot
    Negotiate
    with feelings.
    They are stubborn
    and push back
    If pushed.
    What we tell ourselves
    of them
    won't change them.
    They are more real then,
    than we are.

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    I have to write things like that for people. Feelings poems. I think it's good for me to write feelings poems. A good discipline. Hygienic. Of course, they would make a lot of people puke.

    Feelings are Elusive.

    Feelings are not stories we tell ourselves but sometimes stories we tell ourselves are mistaken for feelings.

    Feelings canít speak for themselves, or, feelings are a language we donít understand, or canít hear.

    Feelings tell us when our Will runs counter to our Needs. Feelings tell us when we are wounded.

    There is a Tyrant within us. Feelings are not the Tyrant.

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    Interoception is a useful concept when thinking about this. The minds mapping of the bodily state. Iím gonna go and try and answer your question about trauma on the other thread now btw

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    Are you purely driven by feelings, is a question I've been wondering about. In the end, are all of your choices and efforts animated by a projected emotional outcome? Or is there something else?

    When I leave someone I love deeply, what is this feeling that beats love? Is it despair at the thought of love ending that brings about itself? Or is it something else? Is it about running away from feelings to somewhere empty, and is this place a feeling as well? Or is this serene pool of nothingness just the absence of anxiety of potential loss.

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    very true the first part of your poem luka,

    I have no idea how to explain my feelings. Sometimes I find myself trying to rationalize this complex emotional totality of myself that is by all accounts a pure fabrication.

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    I love feelings. At my best Iím all feeling.

    I find the lack of feeling very offensive. In large part thatís what boredom is; experiencing the world devoid of feeling.

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    There are some who believe that boredom is the ultimate abyss and that all meaning is created in order to escape it. Not pain or suffering but the absence of feeling itself.

    Even that stuff like social hierarchy have been created because eternal conflict is a permanent way out of existential boredom.

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    But boredom is a feeling too, there's desire in it, there's frustration in it, hope in it, pay enough attention and you can find pleasure in it.

    There is no outside feeling for us, until death. Even what might come closest to 'feeling nothing', say clinical depression is a complex bundle of feelings. Feeling always precedes thought. To think is to feel and you can't think without feeling.

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    are we led by feelings, or are feelings a manifestation of our existing beliefs? are they on the front end or back end?

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    Thought you would have worked out all the answers by the time I got home!

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