Autechre Haters

they also have very little to do with vangelis. that's more bords of canada, who i have never liked and frankly i cannot for the love of me even understand how bliss likes them. Autechre's melodies are more detroit techno than anything.

I also don't like burial really but i can at least understand the whole androgenous pitching of rnb vocals. but even now that's been tainted by indie rock fans diluting electronic music of any vitality before they fuck it off into the gutter and start making guitar music again. happens all the time.

their 2010 melbourne set is totally channeling 90s squat party vibes, anything but mellow. and the one they did in vienna in 96 starts off very four dimensional, could have come out today.

craner said:

Now that Barty has pointed it out, I've noticed that all their early tunes are cheap cheese and I've chucked Amber in the bin. It's funny that suddenly Autechre like it again, and now I've binned it.

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lol fair enough ...but you have to admit it's a bit ironic that you hated them for years for calling their early tunes "cheesy" ...and then Barty comes along and calls them cheesy...and suddenly you notice you completely agree!

craner was taking the piss of my vitriol. he's not serious.

autechre = a band some like and some don't

autecher = music rooted in forms created within dance music cultures that functions as introverted nerd music

sadmanbarty said:

craner was taking the piss of my vitriol. he's not serious.

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well carefully explaining the joke always makes things funnier right?

to all the haters: why can't you all be more like this guy?

well, if you wanted fashionable you would have been listening to progressive trance in the late 90s, not UK garage. you're just trying to artificially squeeze everything into a framework that was over by 96, even bliss admits as much. techno got more abstract and machinic, dnb went loungey. a total inversion of the situation in 92-93 where the battle was between hardcore soldiers and detroit purists.

by the time uk drill came around the fashionable/unfashionable dialectic had negated itself. 1xtra made it so.

at least learn to hate properly lol rather than being this is nerd music as if you're not a forum addict.


also how can you be a benevolent ezra pound fetishising post-aristocrat and still talk about fashionable? this always seems to be done on this forum and its going to turn into the nuum version of bedrock message bords circa 2008. kill fashion! kill clothes, full nudity now!

i get what people find offputting about AE. It's not that it's moody in the traditional sense (of post-punk gloom or even drill) but that it's literally a self-replicating stand offish organism. It's moody, but more in the way of a serial killer, but not that knobhead who everyone knows is a cunt, but that real charmer. the problem with autechre for most is they are too seductive, like lsd. because if you listen to them clearly you hear that they are pushing contemporary dance forms to their absolute technological limit, and that's uncomfortable to most because suddenly its like hearing stockhausen all over again when you thought Jean Michel Jarre was this great innovator. they decentre the didactic personality entirely and let the machine do the talking. there's bucketloads of personality in the music of AE, but it's more the personality of the collective unconscious. it asks you to give up your time, rather than giving up its own time. why would it? It is just there, spitting out code. it has no need to please anyone and hence no need to take a horrifying career detour like Dillinja to please the Reading University massif. it's nerdy music but not your run of the mill nerd, who is more likely to be into the pointless huxtering of 2010s-20s neurofunk dnb bassline engineering. it's in its own way a new approach to the spatiotemporal fragmentation of dub. given that Bliss called them avant-garde electro, and electro goes back to the dubhead approach of disco, we come full circle. and let's not forget that dub records are austere. Luke is right that a london pirate will never, ever play a dub reggae record. I've never heard it - our relationship to dub owes as much to how we contextualised it in a post-disco context.

I really like autechre cos I think it sounds like birdsong but they occasionally put a donk on it

Great Aut:

The album art for Oversteps looks like Great Aut roadkill and the sounds are the funeral music for its bird friends

They're environ mentalists those boys

Sean did actually claim to have autism in the WATMM Q&A. Maybe he was just using it the way people say they're "a bit OCD" though.

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