sadmanbarty
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I’m going to start complaining about people taking crudely literal readings of me being cheeky
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luka
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We're just having a giggle mate. Just laughing at the fact there wasn't a concept behind it. Just a standard pop song except not that good.
padraig (u.s.)
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like this is boring and pointless. it does nothing. that's why it sucks. actual gabber is 100000 times more interesting.
(no offense to the person behind it who I'm sure is very nice and well meaning)
(no offense to the person behind it who I'm sure is very nice and well meaning)
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
I know you guys are having a laugh
I'm saying, it's pretty easy to be dismissive in that particular way. it's not as I'm aloof, I'm sure I've done the same thing many times.
I'm saying, it's pretty easy to be dismissive in that particular way. it's not as I'm aloof, I'm sure I've done the same thing many times.
sadmanbarty
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I’ve done that with other music that’s not my cup of tea. My cartoon physics thread was me finding an angle to enjoy third’s top 100 to. I did a that stuff where I compared autecher to egon schiele.
So while I’m at all opposed to that generally, I’m uncomfortable doing it with this music because it’s playing into a con. It’s sad that all this dissensus energy and social media attention has been drawn out of music that’s a trick; just some ham fisted marketing.
I don’t want to be complicit in that.
So instead I say it’s poo
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
no, just lazy
it could be a reactionary way for someone to take the piss if they had that intent, but I don't think of yall that way at all
it could be a reactionary way for someone to take the piss if they had that intent, but I don't think of yall that way at all
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
sure
I find this stuff more interesting than most threads on here
perhaps because it is so much about Art, substance vs appearance, the slippery nature of self-promotion, artistic vs personal identity, etc
it feels very now. which you might say is part of the con, and you might not be wrong.
SOPHIE at least does not feel like a con to me in any way.
sadmanbarty
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Padraigs American so he doesn’t understand bitterness. He’s got beautiful white teeth. All his friends look like they’re from a coke advert. They sit around and get up to hi jinks with occasional good-natured joshing chucked in. They’re like Big Bang theory or friends.
He’s the Rachel of his group by the way.
He’s the Rachel of his group by the way.
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sadmanbarty
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He’s got friends with names like Zack and Aston. They wear t shirts over the top of long sleeves.
His life’s like a tony hawked game from 2002. He does grinds and stuff
His life’s like a tony hawked game from 2002. He does grinds and stuff
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
she's clearly engaged with the source material, she's making music that works as music not just as means of disseminating a multimedia project
she's making something new from herself and her influences, rather than just picking over the bones of what came before
I'm not super into her music but makes whether I am or not it a case for itself in its own right
she's making something new from herself and her influences, rather than just picking over the bones of what came before
I'm not super into her music but makes whether I am or not it a case for itself in its own right
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
now this is how you take the piss
version
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I like Lee Gamble's stuff and I often find when I come to the interviews he's speaking about things I've already picked up on just from engaging with the record. You can 'get' Diversions 1994-1996 without having to have it explained to you because it's all there in the music and the titles.
The last EP of his (and perhaps the new one too) you can't do that with. You can look up the titles and get what he's referencing there, but the overarching concept doesn't really reveal itself unless you go read all the press. Like this is the Boomkat write up...
There isn't even a tune called 'semioblitz' on the record so it seems as though you're missing a huge chunk of what it's supposed to be about unless you lurk on Boomkat or happen to get the press release emailed to you.
The last EP of his (and perhaps the new one too) you can't do that with. You can look up the titles and get what he's referencing there, but the overarching concept doesn't really reveal itself unless you go read all the press. Like this is the Boomkat write up...
There isn't even a tune called 'semioblitz' on the record so it seems as though you're missing a huge chunk of what it's supposed to be about unless you lurk on Boomkat or happen to get the press release emailed to you.
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
the details are really good
sadmanbarty
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They’re genuinely pleased for one another’s successes rather than seething my passive aggressive.
“Dude! That’s awesome” they’ll say before exchanging a hi five and a bro-hug.
“Dude! That’s awesome” they’ll say before exchanging a hi five and a bro-hug.
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
that's one actually pretty accurate, besides the hi fives + hugs (it's the Midwest, we're too emotionally reserved for that)
I'm a bike courier, we all talk like surfers crossed with 90s rap slang, I say or text "word" probably 50 times a day
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
that was one of the strongest cases I've had of wanting to like something more than I actually did
it was like only the ambient interlude parts of Omni Trio records, but not as good
it made me feel like, why am I not just listening to Omni Trio rn? or Rob Haigh's ambient/classical stuff, some of which is pretty boss
sadmanbarty
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Maybe Americans don’t see through this music because they are a marketed people living marketed lives.
I had to keep doing these workshops with this American bloke and was horrified at the unrelenting amiablness. Always smiling. “What’s up, how are you?”. Laughing at everyone’s jokes. It was scary. Like if a white picket fence or a warm apple pie was a person.
I had to keep doing these workshops with this American bloke and was horrified at the unrelenting amiablness. Always smiling. “What’s up, how are you?”. Laughing at everyone’s jokes. It was scary. Like if a white picket fence or a warm apple pie was a person.
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
ya for me it's like, the music is incredibly uninteresting, why would I go to more effort to reveal the overarching concept
but thanks for your thoughts on it