IdleRich
IdleRich
Was reading back through this thread and thinking I might in fact.
Scorsese is stupid
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Enjoyed The Irishman. Watched it over a couple of days. I liked the way the larger history of the period was woven into the story, Frank meeting David Ferrie and E. Howard Hunt whilst supplying guns for The Bay of Pigs, the references to Kennedy's assassination. The extent to which politics, labor disputes and organised crime were all part of the same thing. Makes me want to read American Tabloid even more.
I've seen a lot of talk of Scorsese dismantling the mob mythology and it's true, but I couldn't help thinking there are plenty of people who don't lead that life who end up in exactly the same spot as Frank. You can do everything 'right' and still end up frail and alone.
I've seen a lot of talk of Scorsese dismantling the mob mythology and it's true, but I couldn't help thinking there are plenty of people who don't lead that life who end up in exactly the same spot as Frank. You can do everything 'right' and still end up frail and alone.
We were talking on contrary stances because that was what the circumstances at the time demanded.
But I've read through the thread again and there's no inconsistencies in what I said.
Mean streets was boring on the rewatch, goodfellas was good.
I think my liking goodfellas so much this time had something to do with the fact I was watching it with someone who's never seen it before, so half the fun was seeing their reaction. It's a treat if you've never seen it before.
I've got raging bull queued up to rewatch at some point. It's the one that's always really tough, cos it just gets so depressing at the end, so I've never liked it as much as some of his others.
The only Scorsese I think I've not seen is "Bringing out the dead", anyone care to comment on that?
But I've read through the thread again and there's no inconsistencies in what I said.
Mean streets was boring on the rewatch, goodfellas was good.
I think my liking goodfellas so much this time had something to do with the fact I was watching it with someone who's never seen it before, so half the fun was seeing their reaction. It's a treat if you've never seen it before.
I've got raging bull queued up to rewatch at some point. It's the one that's always really tough, cos it just gets so depressing at the end, so I've never liked it as much as some of his others.
The only Scorsese I think I've not seen is "Bringing out the dead", anyone care to comment on that?
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It's great. Schrader did the screenplay. Feels like a precursor to what the Safdies are doing. You've got Cage, Sizemore and Ving Rhames tearing round NYC in an ambulance, bumping into all manner of weirdos, seeing ghosts, bringing people back from the dead.
Corpsey
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Luka viciously attacked Scorcese and we formed a protective circle around the diminutive big-eyebrowed maestro, all grimacing like DeNiro and stinking of Lynx Africa.
WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
I liked his Mum. Not like that you depraved cunts. The way she was this chirpy, talkative, diminutive wee figure popping up here and there. Last time I watched this was aeons ago, she’s a joy
She's good in goodfellas as well.
Easily the best scorsese doc is "American boy", about Stephen Prince, who plays the gun dealer in taxi driver.
The whole things really good, he's just telling loads of tall stories. I think he used to stage manage a Neil diamond or someone like that.
Oh look the whole things on YouTube, you should all watch it immediately!
There's a story in there that Tarantino lifted and became the adrenaline shot scene in pulp fiction
Easily the best scorsese doc is "American boy", about Stephen Prince, who plays the gun dealer in taxi driver.
The whole things really good, he's just telling loads of tall stories. I think he used to stage manage a Neil diamond or someone like that.
Oh look the whole things on YouTube, you should all watch it immediately!
There's a story in there that Tarantino lifted and became the adrenaline shot scene in pulp fiction
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Rewatched it last night. I'd forgotten De Niro ends up looking like a French philosopher.
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Cat Malogen
Brightly coloured, almost 30 years old and there’s a bloke who’ll stick your head in a vice, forgotten the rest
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I dont think so. the entire movie is like the first 15 minutes of goodfellas, an introductory montage but for 3 hours.
Corpsey
bandz ahoy
Has anyone watched any of scorce's religious flicks? The Last Temptation of Christ, that one with Andrew Garfield as a Priest, etc.
It strikes me that the sort of person you make films about sometimes reflects (unfairly or not) on you. Thereby Scorcese makes films about dumb hoods and vulgar stockbrokers and it rubs off on him, hence "Scorcese is Stupid"
It strikes me that the sort of person you make films about sometimes reflects (unfairly or not) on you. Thereby Scorcese makes films about dumb hoods and vulgar stockbrokers and it rubs off on him, hence "Scorcese is Stupid"
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I think there's an argument for The Irishman being closer to The Age of Innocence than the mob stuff, at least in terms of the arc and themes of the story. They're both ultimately about the violence of codes, customs and structures and the wreckage left by a lifetime of service.
