narcissist barty's techno party
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when he says "you have to be in detroit to get it" or whatever?
i like the line about "letting the machine enhance you rather than you enhancing the machine"
did the detroit ogs really all hate british techno?
atkins did two remixes of spice and saunderson has a few tracks that are full on uk hardcore aesthetically
of course given their sudden popularity in the uk it would have been crazy not to release anything for that demographic
atkins did two remixes of spice and saunderson has a few tracks that are full on uk hardcore aesthetically
of course given their sudden popularity in the uk it would have been crazy not to release anything for that demographic
maybe with Mayday but nah mostly cultural warring. I mean Mils and hood made as much early hardcore techno as anyone. in fact with jungle if you weren't committed to the artcore direction (I'm not saying this is my pov) and didn't want happy hardcore, then hard techno was the place to go if you wanted hardcore rave music. loads of utilitarian acid to smoke the head.
when would this choice have come up? after jungle had progressed or when it first arrived?
knowledge started mid 92, which was intent on being pretty purist techno but pretty much also ended up having acardipaine and other hardcore noise merchants play live (you can't create a purism when it doesn't exist subculturally, etc etc...)
trippy darkside acid into full on rotterdam mentalism
wait now i think i get what you're saying. hardcore techno (but not detroit purist techno) was an alternative to jungle as the way to go after hardcore. zeroing in on the mental noises instead of the breaks.
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somewhat, though I'd say purist hardcore techno in distinction to purist melodic techno.
by 94 hardcore techno in the UK could mean awful cheesy dutch gabba shite though, but of course in the underground squats the midwest/german/french/edinburgh sound (early landstrumm etc) was dominant. annd of course caustic visions, one of the UK's greatest hardcore techno acts. basically anything affiliated with alien underground is hardcore techno, dj brisk at helter skelter is cheesy dutch gabba (imo.)
This don't sound very romantic to me.
Really the romanticism is juan/derrick may. Reece wasn't very romantic either i don't think.
I think May is highly overrated in techno history. i love juan and (some) Derrick May tracks but as a whole he's been great at blowing his trumpet. Great dj but there's a lot of rumours of him being a ladies man (in an ominous and nasty, not suave way)
a lot of his projects have others on co-production credits yet he's always gone off on one about how he got sick of the music industry. I mean if you were really sick of the industry you wouldn't be jetsetting djing internationally, rather locked up in your studio, let's be real.
And of course rich black people have it harder to rich white people on average/generalisations being generalisations etc, but it's hardly (based on his interviews) like he was going to ever be begging for money if he spent a couple of years getting familiar with the developments in tech, but then, maybe his interview was bollocks given how he comes across in old music mag issues and on RBMA. The signs were there for everyone to see.
As a whole chicago, kalamizoo etc etc have been more appreciative of the UK audience, whereas a very small minority of the Belleville lot have sometimes been under the impression that we'll eat up any old shit in the UK. Which, amongst a certain breed of guilty middle aged white detroit techno fan is absolutely the case, so they are not wrong in that regard.
a lot of his projects have others on co-production credits yet he's always gone off on one about how he got sick of the music industry. I mean if you were really sick of the industry you wouldn't be jetsetting djing internationally, rather locked up in your studio, let's be real.
And of course rich black people have it harder to rich white people on average/generalisations being generalisations etc, but it's hardly (based on his interviews) like he was going to ever be begging for money if he spent a couple of years getting familiar with the developments in tech, but then, maybe his interview was bollocks given how he comes across in old music mag issues and on RBMA. The signs were there for everyone to see.
As a whole chicago, kalamizoo etc etc have been more appreciative of the UK audience, whereas a very small minority of the Belleville lot have sometimes been under the impression that we'll eat up any old shit in the UK. Which, amongst a certain breed of guilty middle aged white detroit techno fan is absolutely the case, so they are not wrong in that regard.
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you might dig this all Kalamazoo mix I found recently - some pretty cool stuff on there, imo
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