Reagan Rock and The Cold War.
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luka
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This is a good one. Like so many other regressive tendencies it creeps back into the culture under the cover of irony.
luka
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If there's enough Americans to elect trump there's enough trump supporters to support a rock group or two. The big difference is the lack of a Cold War but my assumption is the culture war would act as the substitute. Liberals for commies.
luka
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It's why I think someone like Colby Colvington is interesting. Not a cultural figure per se, not even hugely famous, but playing a kind of more obnoxious version of Hulk Hogan, unlike Hulk, it's the divisiveness of Trump and red cap which is relished and insisted upon. There's no children's entertainer aspect. Just pure vitriol, chauvinism and race hatred.
Hulk might have wanted to suplex commies but the Colby position is about the culture war within America. About winding up liberals. A bratty sense of entitlement. Being a bad winner.
Hulk might have wanted to suplex commies but the Colby position is about the culture war within America. About winding up liberals. A bratty sense of entitlement. Being a bad winner.
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Grunge is of course best understood as the inevitable response to the fall of the Soviet Union. Boeings headquarters were based there and the northwest defense industry had huge economic importance during the Cold War, the malaise and misery of the music that followed expresses the financial hardships and identity crises that would accompany the victory which reagan-rock ensured.
padraig (u.s.)
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1) that was written + produced by Giorgio Moroder, as European a person as has ever lived
2) it could not remotely be called rock; it's a toned-down ca. 1984 charts friendly version of the hi-NRG end of post-disco
3) America isn't a country of bodybuilders, nor is bodybuilding particularly American
padraig (u.s.)
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yall have these fantasy approximations of the U.S. and Americans that make me laugh
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
fair enough
and Reagan Rock is real
it's epitomized by Bruce Springsteen
and Reagan Rock is real
it's epitomized by Bruce Springsteen
luka
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Well we've never been there. We just consume the fantasies that Americans make about themselves. On telly, in music and at the cinema. What do you expect!
sadmanbarty
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We’re being playful. We’re being silly. We’re shoe horningthong and misrepresenting then to get ideas across. “Factual disingenuousness in pursuit of emotional honesty”. They’re fun. Don’t take them to heart. I don’t literally think Americans “aren’t real humans” or whatever else I’ve said in the past. They’re just ways of communicating rich ideas economically.
padraig (u.s.)
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hippies giving way to yuppies, as symbolized by Jerry Rubin (the Yippie founder turned stockbroker and eventually multilevel marketing hustler)
sadmanbarty
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If you qualify what you say, you end up saying nothing. You blunt it and make it tepid. There are contexts where such discourse is appropriate (politica for example) and others where it’s a terrible idea (talking about art for instance)