sadmanbarty
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‘Kill shit’ in terms of the drums is more fire’s ‘oi’ on top of a trap beat.
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But danny said rappers not producers. i love drill culture wars because everyone contradicts each other. :crylarf:
i mean, i probably agree to an extent, there are/is a rhythmic lexicon from fastchat, even through osmosis if you will, but the popular [piano instrumentals were the worst part of UK drill, in retrospect.
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Third time I've said this - I was pointing out that the stuff you posted upthread has zero cultural relevance beyond whatever miniscule audience listens to it on Youtube. It feels like you are responding to a conversation you're having in your head rather than the one we've actually been having.
thats bollocks mate. why do you pick up avant-garde and musique concrete records then? clearly they have a global cultural relevance that gets absorbed in other ways, sometimes direct and sometimes indirect.
No popular relevance. No real audience beyond a small group of connoisseurs. Which is great for what it is, but that's what it is.
The thread you were reacting to seemed to me to be lamenting the death of a widely involving popular scene, as much as the death of the future. Or rather mistaking one for the other
The thread you were reacting to seemed to me to be lamenting the death of a widely involving popular scene, as much as the death of the future. Or rather mistaking one for the other
I'm just trying to build a framework of trying to conceptualise culture using a different, not sociocultural but sociohistorical paradigm and you wanna play the oh look at the weirdo autistic schizo in his head having a conversation in his head? anything for common ground i suppose!
this is rubbish. the core audience for grime was less than 10000.
It's just frustration mate. All I was trying to do was point out the music you were posting was fairly obscure and speculating that laments for a lost future are also laments for a lost scene or cultural moment within we can lose ourselves in. I was trying to make what felt like to me a fairly simple point and we've been going off on all these tangents about drill.
Fair cop. I hear that. but all i was trying to say is jungle was obscure, grime was obscure, etc. as soon as they became less obscure, they lost their vitality. even hip hop to an extent, once it ditched the electro influence, it wasn't the same kind of future shock. this is not to devalue the pop sphere, I'm partial to a bit of Melanie B myself, just saying that it seems that the coordinates of that argument are erronious, to me.
i want to have an argument about unpredictability vs stasis, but that would mean the framework here would have to be revived a bit cos it would mean that one would have to concede that things marked intelligent or arty might have something in them, even if the impulse goes in the wrong way.
you're anything but the model of patience and tolerance so I'll take your criticisms on bord.
sure, techno and jungle. both minority interests. house was already dated when it shipped over from Chicago to the UK. or should i say, what we conceptualised as proper house was already dated.
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