Funky/London/UK House

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QueenofSheba

Keep It Funky!!
jambo said:
While I'm here, I don't know if this has been linked but it did make make me laugh when it came up on a search.

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viktorvaughn said:
She sounds really posh?
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I found this quite funny I used it on my blogsite but it shows that Funky is really underground and not yet ready to be appreciated by mainstream. Although that may have part to do with the comicality of the song.

Here's Calista's MySpace. She has an interesting background. I met her once in a club. Nice girl. Really friendly
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
QueenofSheba said:
This track is vocaled by the same Nyah that vocalled over Wookie's Gallium :eek:
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I don't think I've heard the vocal, but the dub of that track is pretty damn good, no? And I'm not even a fan of Wookie's UKG stuff.

Btw, to check I'm using the terminology correctly, when you're all talking about 'dubs', you're just talking about as-yet unvocalled riddims, right, in the same manner as dancehall?
 
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QueenofSheba

Keep It Funky!!
baboon2004 said:
I don't think I've heard the vocal, but the dub of that track is pretty damn good, no? And I'm not even a fan of Wookie's UKG stuff.

Btw, to check I'm using the terminology correctly, when you're all talking about 'dubs', you're just talking about as-yet unvocalled riddims, right, in the same manner as dancehall?
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This is the vocal:


Dubs = Dubplates ie personalised for the specific DJ. Marcus Nasty is the dubplate king of the scene without a doubt ;)
 
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viktorvaughn

Well-known member
But a dubplate is any unreleased tune a DJ has no? (IE derived from when it actually was an acetate dub and not a proper vinyl release, though they are all on CD now).

The personal ones I think of as VIP dubs...
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Whoever was saying funky just = old house music, could you link me some mixes of that kind of house?

Just been on uptown. I reckon a few more dubstep bits and then it's going to have to be all funky... I need that D1 EP first tho
 
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QueenofSheba

Keep It Funky!!
viktorvaughn said:
But a dubplate is any unreleased tune a DJ has no? (IE derived from when it actually was an acetate dub and not a proper vinyl release, though they are all on CD now).

The personal ones I think of as VIP dubs...
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I think the evolution in lingo has eradicated this meaningful definition as these seem to be referred to as exclusives now.... I tend to hear DJs stating "I want this exclusive on a dub"

This is an event I'm looking forward to.... Road trip seem to be the best way for me to enjoy the scene at the moment. London clubs tend to play the same stuff week in week out

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Blackdown

nexKeysound
strictly speaking a dubplate is a physical one-off acetate of a tune, made at a cutting house (i.e. http://www.dub-plates.org/). but these days people refer to a "dub" as any unreleased tune.

funky djs dont play off dubplate, they mostly use CDr or Final Scratch/Serrato, so when they say dub they mean exclusive and/or unreleased.

a special is a version of an unreleased tune, that may or may not be cut to a dubplate, that is exclusive to that DJ. most specials mention the DJ by name.

a VIP is like a special but usually doesn't have the DJs name in it. it's more like an exclusive version of a well known tune.
 
jambo

jambo

slip inside my schlafsack
Corpsey said:
Whoever was saying funky just = old house music, could you link me some mixes of that kind of house?
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No it's different in it's admixture in quite a few ways, but on the evidence of what I've heard it's not any more rhythmically interesting or intense or fun or satisfying as an experience. House music probably, understandably I guess, has a bad name in some quarters and of course the other thing is people want a music that aesthetically fits their lifestyle and how they see themselves, er and music that's being made now ;) Tbh I haven't really gone out of my way to hear house music since about 1994 so I wouldn't know what to suggest but I guess I'm thinking of old Chicago (and New York) people like Cajmere, DJ Sneak, Lil Louis, DJ Pierre, old Felix Da Housecat. I dunno, there's probably better examples.

Apart from the grimier stuff quite a bit of Funky I've heard in radio sets seems to have a bit of a Gilles Peterson jazz and cocktails afro-cosmi vibe going on which I don't mind sometimes actually. :p
 
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hint

hint

party record with a siren
Corpsey said:
Whoever was saying funky just = old house music, could you link me some mixes of that kind of house?
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The issue isn't so much that it's like "old" House music, but that there aren't really lines to be drawn just yet. House hasn't been sitting around twiddling its thumbs, waiting for a handful of UK producers to shift the kicks and snares about a bit. ;)

What the Funky scene is doing is joining the dots between the various producers who were already (occasionally) making a certain style of House and the new producers who have been influenced by them. Which is how scenes start, I guess.
 
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elgato

I just dont know
Corpsey said:
Whoever was saying funky just = old house music, could you link me some mixes of that kind of house?
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some good examples in terms of roughness and freedom from restrictive form etc are in this mix:

http://dissensus.com/showthread.php?t=7739&highlight=jacki's+house

edit - i see that this is down, i'll try to up it sometime soon

there is also something similar in the aesthetics of some of that kind of stuff too

loads of old New York stuff is similarly so also, Todd Terry especially, and some Nu Groove have a lot of that i think

i think in terms of what jambo is saying, i agree that its clearly not the case that house has never before been raw or wild or free or whatever (as seems to be implied by some people maybe), but i do think that in terms of form, aesthetic etc this mutation is distinct from anything i've heard previously (but then i haven't been around that long ;))
 
nomos

nomos

Administrator
QueenofSheba said:
I have queried this myself. It isn't the same one though. This is Mark "MyHouse" Ryder.
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ahh ok. i was wondering. that would be quite a run if it was the original since he started back in 91 or so. but it seemed possible given that kma's on flyers again.
 
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QueenofSheba

Keep It Funky!!
Blackdown said:
strictly speaking a dubplate is a physical one-off acetate of a tune, made at a cutting house (i.e. http://www.dub-plates.org/). but these days people refer to a "dub" as any unreleased tune.

funky djs dont play off dubplate, they mostly use CDr or Final Scratch/Serrato, so when they say dub they mean exclusive and/or unreleased.

a special is a version of an unreleased tune, that may or may not be cut to a dubplate, that is exclusive to that DJ. most specials mention the DJ by name.

a VIP is like a special but usually doesn't have the DJs name in it. it's more like an exclusive version of a well known tune.
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Very nicely broken down :eek:

If any of you guys are on Facebook, you can get updates when I add to my blog from here:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Its-A-UK-Funky-Movement/41548464223

I'm workin on a few bits for it at the moment that'll hopefully be coming into play in the very near future.... :slanted:
 
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Logos

Ghosts of my life
jambo said:
There were some nice elements to what MN was playing - the syncopated / poly-rhythmic things, the crude grimey bits - and it's fine to dance to, serves a purpose, but I've got to wonder if some of the eager appreciation of funky as new-thing isn't coming from people who've never really heard or given raw house music a chance before, either cos of age or issues with the sound palette and/or the perceived listener demographic?

I can see how it's totally working and providing elements that were missing or whatever, but it's not that exciting really, is it? Well, whatever, people dancing is a good thing so I'm not knocking that.
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I don't agree - personally I've listened and raved to house for quite a long time but its mostly been of the 'minimal' variety, so the London tech house sound a few years back especially when fabric was first open, and in recent years the whole cassy/lawrence/efdemin axis. I've never been into what has traditionally been called mainstream or funky house, which I take to mean that US-international sound that defected might put out; lots of vocals and so on.

Part of what I find exciting about the newer London/UK sounds is the DJs and producers seem to have arrived back at a point in house music's history (having taken a detour of about 16 years) when a crazy, atonal, raw tracky sound was really prominent - that Warp/Nu Groorve/Todd Terry vibe, which subsequently fed in to harcore along with Belgium techno and reggae - and they seem to have done it somewhat unintentionally. That to me is thrilling.
 
jambo

jambo

slip inside my schlafsack
I think we totally agree then Logos, as I said in reply to Corpsey I was mostly thinking about house music as I experienced it up until around the mid 90s. I suppose in retrospect maybe I did stop paying so much attention for reasons other than techno and jungle. ;)
 
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gumdrops

Well-known member
that kode 9 12 isnt the one he played at beyond is it? i hope more stores get these 12s other than uptown. 8 pounds a piece is taking the piss a bit.
 
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