Hellraiser (1987)

[version]

I can't work out whether I actually like these films or not. There's something really shit about them, but I can't help but come back to certain scenes and images. I haven't bothered with any but the first two, but there's just something about them. They're a bit like a much nastier Ghostbusters, same sort of feel in terms of the way the effects look and sound, the quality of the film, the supernatural elements.

The first one reminds me of the first Friday 13th in that you go in expecting Jason/Pinhead to be the villain due to their being the face of the thing, but it's actually Jason's mother/Frank. There's the Gremlins thing too where you get a character meeting some clunky ethnic stereotype selling an arcane object to kick the whole thing off.

Does it come up in Land or anyone like that at all? It's one of those things that seems as though it could have a life beyond the page/screen. An idea people can run with in the vein of Lovecraft et al.

 

[luka]

Not seen it I saw Lord of illusions recently that was quite good I heard hellraiser is rubbish though

 

[sadmanbarty]

the 2nd one's good. the first one's rubbish. its just set in this house in west london. the 2nd one the go to cenobte world and it's all magical

 

[version]

The second one's one of the nastiest films I've ever seen. There's this evil doctor who gives a lunatic who thinks he's covered in bugs a straight razor and lets him go to town on himself on this weird, haunted mattress.

 

[luka]

Barty has got a 1980s kid appreciation for video nastys. He's a man out of time.

 

[version]

the 2nd one the go to cenobte world and it's all magical

Yeah, the labyrinth with that flying thing called Leviathan.

 

[sadmanbarty]

rubbish:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/16/fd/02/16fd02edd4ed8013b7c8f5c47249d2ce.jpg

wicked:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...est/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20140415003818

 

[sadmanbarty]

The second one's one of the nastiest films I've ever seen. There's this evil doctor who gives a lunatic who thinks he's covered in bugs a straight razor and lets him go to town on himself on this weird, haunted mattress.

i don't remeber all that. i just remember it was like a bondage wizard of oz.

 

[version]

This is it. Horrendous.

2:10

 

[sadmanbarty]

This is it. Horrendous.

2:10

there's a point where things are lowbrow, they swing all the way round the pendulum and suddenly seem really arty.

 

[craner]

You should watch this Barty:

 

[sadmanbarty]

Barty has got a 1980s kid appreciation for video nastys. He's a man out of time.

You should watch this Barty:

i'm not allowing this reputation to crystalise!

"oh barty's the weird pasty bloke sitting in his bedroom all day wanking, playing dungeons and dragons and watching beheading videos"!

that's not me! i'm not going to stand for it!

 

[droid]

The first 30 minutes of Hellraiser 2 is great. Filthy lunatics, brain surgery, asylum hell portal. All goes very silly after that. The visual effects are particularly bad, and the matte painting sucks. Have to admire the scope though, of it even if they failed miserably to follow through.

 

[version]

What's your pleasure, Mr. Cotton?

THE BOX.

 

[version]

This bit's good.

 

[sadmanbarty]

I don’t care too much about the body horror stuff. That’s very much like Americans talking about boogers. It’s a rebellion against something I’ve never needed to rebel against.

 

[droid]

Barker has had a mostly terrible cinema run, and is pretty overrated in the annals of horror, but there is some really great stuff in the books of blood. "Down, Satan!" has always stuck with me.

 

[luka]

What's your pleasure, Mr. Cotton?

THE BOX.

Is that hellraiser too? Might have to watch it for that reason alone. A quote, dare I say it, as iconic as fucking voodoo magic mon

 

[droid]

 

[luka]

Another good one is that one from Eskimo. What is it from please? The claw my master
or whatever it says