when asmr was avant garde

mvuent

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probably the most famous one



from a few years earlier



another grm one (the marble sounds)



really haphazard choice (i don't know the territory well) but i think it also appears in 90s/00s stuff like this—not the sine waves but the delicate crackling sounds, etc



other notable examples?
 
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It was truly avant garde pre 2010 or whatever when there wasnt a name for it and the community hadnt found each other online and no content aimed at triggering. when me and my dad and sister called it 'that head feeling'. I got it way more back then, it needs space and peace and quiet to occur naturally
 
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At times certain elements of



fuckin love this, sorry to drop zombie cicadas and crump crump snow shoes but it’s crossover material
 
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In film, crossover with the electroacoustic thread, granted the volume is deliberately disorientating so more as sound alchemy

Tony Banks did part of the soundtrack, it has a sound realm all its own




phenomenology of electroacoustic music

Nothing like a Liam thread to get the lads talking. No one wants that electroacoustic weirdo music anymore. Give us a packet of benson gold and six stellas, we're reliving our teenage years. electroacoustic music is very different from conventional music. but what is it different for? what do...
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I feel like almost all academic electronic composition starts to have this quality once it leaves behind analog for digital means - wispy, ear-tickling

either that or a sort of glassy, crinkly sort of palette

they all seem to get hung up on high-end sounds and tiny almost imperceptible details and a density of sonic events, way too much to absorb

i guess because it's become possible suddenly and it's easier with computers, so you have to do more rather than less to show you've really done the work
 
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I didn't really know Automatic Writing the way I know Now Eleanor's Idea tetralogy but when we were listening to Now Eleanor's Idea, Nico said that he sounded similar (very old, very tired) on Automatic Writing
 
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I've always believed, a la Sturgeon's Law, that while 99% of any genre is crap, conversely, the upper 1% of any medium is art. Video games have obviously been blessed with such recognition of late; we could all I'm sure name a handful of games that even snobs will grant the title. But ASMR—is there avant-garde ASMR? Is there canon-worthy ASMR being made today that needs preserving?
 
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Not for me, that ASMR 'genre'. Claustrophobic and nauseating, the fetishization of surface; or an aesthetized auditory rape. Another reason to defund the liberal arts 'universities'
 
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blissblogger said:
I feel like almost all academic electronic composition starts to have this quality once it leaves behind analog for digital means - wispy, ear-tickling

either that or a sort of glassy, crinkly sort of palette

they all seem to get hung up on high-end sounds and tiny almost imperceptible details and a density of sonic events, way too much to absorb

i guess because it's become possible suddenly and it's easier with computers, so you have to do more rather than less to show you've really done the work
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have to admit i generally prefer wispy high end sounds to the ear-bleeding high frequencies you get in a lot of the 60s and 70s stuff
 
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shiels said:
It was truly avant garde pre 2010 or whatever when there wasnt a name for it and the community hadnt found each other online and no content aimed at triggering
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that's what interests me about this topic—it's a notable example of avant garde music actually living up to the pretensions of the term (as opposed to just being, as the joke goes, a french word for "bad"). inadvertently discovering a pleasure principle totally outside accepted wisdom of how the medium works.
 
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sus said:
I've always believed, a la Sturgeon's Law, that while 99% of any genre is crap, conversely, the upper 1% of any medium is art. Video games have obviously been blessed with such recognition of late; we could all I'm sure name a handful of games that even snobs will grant the title. But ASMR—is there avant-garde ASMR? Is there canon-worthy ASMR being made today that needs preserving?
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in the thing i wrote for your legendary lost media publication Heyoka i suggested that there might one day be an asmr equivalent to bach or beethoven. but yeah, hadn't thought about flipping sturgeon's law around like that before, i like that a lot.
 
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But I am going to submit the draft to the TransContinental Committee Of Young Americans, for further design work, if they deem it worthy
 
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blissblogger said:
I feel like almost all academic electronic composition starts to have this quality once it leaves behind analog for digital means - wispy, ear-tickling

either that or a sort of glassy, crinkly sort of palette

they all seem to get hung up on high-end sounds and tiny almost imperceptible details and a density of sonic events, way too much to absorb

i guess because it's become possible suddenly and it's easier with computers, so you have to do more rather than less to show you've really done the work
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This is one of the things that most fits that description I've ever heard, like insect wings and crunching snow.

 
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chava said:
Not for me, that ASMR 'genre'. Claustrophobic and nauseating, the fetishization of surface; or an aesthetized auditory rape. Another reason to defund the liberal arts 'universities'
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Only one way to do that, A german-russian alliance. Not going to happen without the EU federalising. Are you hoping for that?
 
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