Digging

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Do you dig anymore?

My equivalent of digging now is going down Spotify rabbit holes — right now I'm listening to the biggest afrobeat hits atm, according to Spotify (mostly rubbish)

I was digging a bit when I got into bronx drill, on youtube

You need diggers, people obsessed with one genre that will sort through the mountains of mediocre shit and bring you the jewels

I suppose those ppl are generally either DJs or in charge of playlists for spotify (although also getting paid by labels to pick things, ofc)... or specialist bloggers

But I must say as I get older I lose the will to dig
 

Murphy

cat malogen
used to

it kicked in again during lockdown, I.d.ing old tracks on mixes specifically but apart from the odd punt via Discogs, not actively scanning for the shock of the new
 

0bleak

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Do you dig anymore?

Yes, a lot.
Well, maybe not quite as much in the last 6 months as remaining life force gets sucked out of me due to dealing with issues with old parents.
But there are various methods and strategies I've developed and used - some things are on the daily (well, I should say they WERE - and I've now also got thousands of emails piled up), and some are monthly.
 

the ig

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as much as i can

charity shops pretty dry these days cos everyone cottoned on to discogs…well…not everyone and that’s the thing, you have to do the rounds a few times and find the handful of spots where the good shit still slips through.

adopted new strategies, as v into house last 3/4 years lots of digging though the piles of cheapo house in rec shop for ‘always cheap’ classic gems; but more excitingly for overlooked, forgotten etc beauts. the rush when I pick one up like that…

building my classical collection has been my main thing next to that. even there the ch shops price up with discogs, but some just can’t be bothered with it and I’ve picked up some great stuff. became a huge engrossing voyage of discovery, and massively debilitating sidetrack, keeping me away froom everything i’m meant to! The other thing is jazz-age jazz. got poor and couldn’t keep buying full price modern jazz releases so went exploring earlier stuff. one of the best things to happen to me. get all the RCA jazz tribune stuff nm for nothing; became huge Duke fan. other stuff: hawk, prez, straight up swing (the first rave music!). again, dizzying, engrossing, waylaying and i’m v happy getting lost. a whole world unto itself, full of life and energy and desire, and so fascinating to read up on, I can’t believe people miss out by stopping at Charlie Parker (thereabouts) going back.

I walk…also…a lot…all over town (Brighton) and find stuff that way. it’s replaced the ch shops to an extent. good handfuls to whole collections (or large parts thereof) just picked up off the street! just before lockdown - a stack of 50 odd mid 00s indie records, neo-post-punk stuff, scratchy edgy indie disco stuff, erase errata, bands like that. all good to list, couple 30quiders (Jay Reatard album, a rare Dez Dickerson 12” w/ Prince on it and loads of electro mixes). was back home going though it all with this growing itch…but but..what if maybe there was more? nah don’t be silly… couldn’t stop meself could I? only ten mins to spot and BOOM!! whadyaknow there’s another stack of 50 rekkids leaning against a bin. this time rather ny neo-disco type fair, 00s electroclashy things. few bits for me: couple good disco bits, an Ex Models album (fine noisy mathrock biz), and discover intermittently fab Montreal tinfoil-clad artschool rockers Les Georges Leningrad. But that’s a tip, if u find a pile it’s worth going back because people do massive ‘spring clean’ clearouts or moving house and the stuff comes in waves.

Well now..(for my tale isn’t over)...the street in question, ‘Magic Street’ as I’ve renamed it - perhaps without great originality - I keep ending up on it, it draws me there, I trust it to produce. and lo…a year later BOOOOOM!! musta been same house dumps 175 7”s in a see-through recycling box. scoop em all up. all sorts of biz inc poppy grime, garagepunky stuff, noise, lofi, schmindie disco-not-disco type stuff. some wrecked need chucking, but loads are good. not that much for me but all good listing on the ‘scogs.

More recently, an address just round the corners dumps art books, homo specialist lit, loads of classical vocal CDs on the pavement. keep picking bits up (multiple visits) and eventually there’s a couple of records there (broadway soundtracks). week or so later it’s nice out remember to walk past the spot again and BOOOOOOM!! whole collection leaning against the wall! no other fucker around, home with 3 Patty Smith Group, 2 Iggy, 2 Blondie, 2 Janacek Operas, (lots of interesting opera titles), Mahler/Solti, more..

there’s been loads of other hauls like that - a bag full of CDs inc rec store day exclusives, sell a piddly little Grimes single in a card slipocket to a gal in Texas for £80!
various boxes of 7”s left out with decent 60s bits, northern (not rare stuff but still), punk and new wave.

last big ch shop haul was 5 years ago: 50 reggae singles at quid a pop on uk labels like Attack, Duke, Green Door. selling like hotcakes 30-70quid a pop overnight. but the days of kitting out yr collection with dumped 100-200 item student dj collections in ch shops are pretty much over, unforch.

my last nice pickup was The Incredible Carlos Montoya on RCA (black label, nice old lightning ‘a’ logo - info for the nerds) for £2 at Sussex Beacon, just played it now. goodnight.
 

william_kent

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charity shops pretty dry these days

because they all have a "guy" who comes in once once a month who they rely on for pricing and he WILL take all the good stuff and leave the dregs on the shelves at what I call "optimistic pricing"

there used to be a charity shop where my mum lives where I could pick up a couple of desirable ( to me ) LPs for 50p but COVID made me miss a few years and I was horrified on my last visit as they were asking £12 for a grenadiers brass band album in P- condition

I used to wish on the death of my childhood friends older brothers so I could pick up their collections for 50p a pop but those days are long over
 

the ig

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oh god I loath the pricer guy, who does that ripoff shit too of course, until he gets rumbled (does happen). you can tell when they’re in between ‘pricer guys’ tho, suddenly some nice shit turns up at the right price in the bins!

another great haul was when one of the pricer guys who i knew from his stall just invited me on down for a rummage in the store rooms, jus like that cos it was full of electronic music he didn’t care about. came out with model 500 lps, new electronica comps, 12”s a-plenty for quid or so a pop.

one day I found a load of Boo Williams 12”s on Relief outside a Cornish pasty shop

same street i found a Tresor Drexcia 12” and X-103 ‘Atlantis’ LP (what a score, BIG techno fav!), both nm cond, outside a hairdressers that had just opened.

ok then..
 

william_kent

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oh god I loath the pricer guy, who does that ripoff shit too of course, until he gets rumbled (does happen). you can tell when they’re in between ‘pricer guys’ tho, suddenly some nice shit turns up at the right price in the bins!

another great haul was when one of the pricer guys who i knew from his stall just invited me on down for a rummage in the store rooms, jus like that cos it was full of electronic music he didn’t care about. came out with model 500 lps, new electronica comps, 12”s a-plenty for quid or so a pop.

one day I found a load of Boo Williams 12”s on Relief outside a Cornish pasty shop

same street i found a Tresor Drexcia 12” and X-103 ‘Atlantis’ LP) what a score, BIG techno fav!), both nm cond, outside a hairdressers that had just opened.

ok then..

there was a legendary radio show on Lancashire BBC, "On the Wire' and one episode they played a load of ULTRA RARE UPSETTERS / LEE PERRY 45s that had been found in a bin in Blackburn

the nearest I've come to that was there was a pile of LPs outside my best friends neighbours house but the record on top was a blim scarred burned beat up copy of RICK WAKEMAN'S wives of Henry the 8th so I just walked on past
 

william_kent

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most UK charity shops are pretty much shit for everything except films - most of the ones I have been in recently price DVDs at £1 and I picked up a OZU box set for £2 last time I was in Reading
 

0bleak

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X-103 ‘Atlantis’ LP (what a score, BIG techno fav!), both nm cond, outside a hairdressers that had just opened.

top ten material for me

At any rate, You all have it VERY lucky living there.
There's NO way I would EVER find stuff like that on the side of the street or in bins here unless I was somewhere like NYC.
 

william_kent

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I was once walking along TIB STREET in Manchester and a white van pulled up and offered me 'studio speakers" but I knew it was going to be a cardboard box full of bricks so I politely declined and then some rocker type dudes accosted me and told me about a bin full of "GARAGE 45s" and I didn't care if it was 60s punk or champagne 'we're making it' grooves, but I couldn't find the dustbin...pissed off day
 

william_kent

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TIB STREET used to be the seediest street in Manchester - full of "bookshops" with low priced crime novels but when you parted the curtain to get to the cash counter you'd be confronted with XXX graphic, almost surgical, depictions of genitals

the unemployment people would issue you with vouchers for cookers and fridges and we thought we could trade those in for cash for drink and drugs but the only electrical shop on the street was owned by a sanctimonious proprietor who got all HIGH & MIGHTY and we stropped out

I knew the street had gone downhill when some shops started having bins full of 12 inch "upfront" house records, and that was the start of the NORTHERN QUARTER, fucking hipster central
 

william_kent

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one of favourite TIB STREET moments was when I played a bar in the gentrified version

it had some name that was geographical 'south? north?', etc.

I had a "proper dj" behind the decks who I could direct like a 'mix monkey" but when he objected that it was impossible to mix rhythm & Sound into Jackie Mittoo, I had to take over and when I put on CUSS CUSS the Albanian doorman abandoned his post and busted some moves in front of us



Lloyd & Devon - Cuss Cuss

a bit later I played this tune and the place went wild ( in my vicinity )



Soundhack - D2



one of the bar people kept bringing me doubles of rum and coke, so a good night
 

0bleak

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I have a very "DJ Oblique/0bleak" aesthetic version of cuss cuss. It's a bit knackered though - gonna get another copy some day.

yeah, yeah - I know, very not most people's cup of "stygian cybernetic tea" (i'm forever going to steal that phrase from you @Corpsey if you don't mind), but what can I say?


 

william_kent

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I particularly like the album version from the WACKIES Horace Andy LP

edit: I've moved this comment



Horace Andy - Cuss Cuss Wackies LP version

edit: I once worked with a guy who told me his best friend had fathered a child with Horace's crackhead daughter and he was amazed that a middle class white guy had managed to insinuate himself into the Andy family tree
 

william_kent

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scrub that, I'm really drunk

I was talking about the money tune

edit I moved from post above: "it's better than the 12 inch which lacks the dubbed out fuckery. - one of the few occasions where the LP version is better than the 12 inch"



Horace Andy - Money Money LP version

edit: these comments are bullshit and no USE:
there was no cuss cuss 12 inch from wACKIES, I'm really drunk
if there was you have DUG DEEP

but yeah, the LP version of MONEY MONEY is superior to the WACKIES 12 inch of the same name

I'll fetch my coat, etc.,
 

william_kent

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I was once on a mailing list where I could have asked HORACE ANDY to sing:"WILLIAM KENT IS THE GREATEST SELECTOR"
but was it worth £100 for less than ten seconds?

I sort of decided "no"
 

william_kent

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back on track

when I realised that there was DDR Kosmiche on the STASI approved label I made a list and when I visited the former East Germany I hit up multiple record shops and bought up every AMIGA "electronics" album, but that took me down a rabbit hole of prog and fusion which got more complicated when a guy in a Leipzig shop told me about DDR BREAKS, and then I noticed the OSTROCK section...



Thomas Natschinski Gruppe - Trommelbüchse

GDR PSYCH BREAKS!
 
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