Orbits

sus

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@line b posted about this recently and then deleted

I think it was about how he was always having to pull tinder dates into his orbit his gravitational field. But that it took work and made things more serious, less light, it couldn't just be casual. He is welcome to correct my account.
 

sus

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Oh here it is:
It's not 'tough' seeing ppl as a guy like me but it is an odd dilemma where I'm not good looking and I really only have like 4 friends here so if I want to date I have to pursue someone and pluck them out of the orbit of their own life and drag them into mine which is a bit contradictory to the low-commitment-freshly-divorced dating ethos I have. And I'm a bit of an odd guy I think so that either repulses women (I regularly scare them on the train) or fully infatuates them and nothing in between.
 

sus

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I was thinking about this because I was watching 1959's Gidget. Trying to do research for the quiescent Polynesian Pop thread

And the plot in that film is basically there are these drop-outs who like to surf. They don't want a square job, they don't want to join the 9-5 ranks. They're rebels dedicated to their craft, eyes fast on the surf, everything else distraction

And then this middle class girl comes around and she takes a fancy to them because they're so independent minded and they stand outside the social structure. And so she spends the whole summer trying to tear their attention away from the waves and finally she succeeds through trickery and determination, and as soon as she has the boys wrapped around her finger, she tries to change them into nice respectable 9-5 boys
 

sus

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Sets out to find the wildest horse she can find and tame it. I was thinking maybe @luka or @woops or our other board bohemians might have personal experience with this stuff.

But I think everyone is familiar with some form of this. Power struggles over who is in whose orbit. Who is the center and who is the periphery.
 

0bleak

A Liniment's Evil Work
i almost feel like you left out tagging me intentionally, bro
you've read some of my "life stories" after all
 
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0bleak

A Liniment's Evil Work
maybe i just don't seem bohemian enough although i've rarely had a job that lasted very long
also had a woman once say to me "you seem like the kind of person that doesn't have a family" even after they once met my mom!
 

mixed_biscuits

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Sets out to find the wildest horse she can find and tame it. I was thinking maybe @luka or @woops or our other board bohemians might have personal experience with this stuff.

But I think everyone is familiar with some form of this. Power struggles over who is in whose orbit. Who is the center and who is the periphery.
Beauty and the Beast
 
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mixed_biscuits

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One of my colleagues was dating someone and she told him she wouldn't be serious until he got a job, so he got a job. Then she said he had to get a car, so he did. And then he had to buy a house. Then she dumped him.
 

0bleak

A Liniment's Evil Work
maybe i just don't seem bohemian enough although i've rarely had a job that lasted very long
also had a woman once say to me "you seem like the kind of person that doesn't have a family" even after they once met my mom!

also remember going to the mall with my dad one time, and running into a couple of girls I knew
they seemed SHOCKED, just so SHOOK by what they were experiencing like #1 this guy has a dad?! and #2 but, but - his dad, he's SO NORMAL!
 

sus

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I think Feminine Pressure is a part of this story but we shouldn't get caught up in it

@line b's original post was about how he's pulled women into his orbit and that's very real you see that all the time

there are caricatures of the kind of women who change every time they date a new man, one week they're a cowgirl the next they're a punk
 

0bleak

A Liniment's Evil Work
Sets out to find the wildest horse she can find and tame it. I was thinking maybe @luka or @woops or our other board bohemians might have personal experience with this stuff.

But I think everyone is familiar with some form of this. Power struggles over who is in whose orbit. Who is the center and who is the periphery.

I could post stories of what I think are along the lines of what you're looking for, especially from the time period that I consider myself to have been at the height of my powers, but I'm afraid they will just come off as braggadocio or that I'm making shit up.
Although @luka did say, in one of his kind moments, that I was the "best looking bloke on dissensus", so...
 
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kid charlemagne

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with the past couple women, it has usually been me being pulled into their orbit.... but they are usually scared for my sake of me being brought to their orbit because of how much i present myself as a square and straight edge. one girl ended things because she was afraid i wouldnt be comfortable around the places she went.... the last girl was apologizing to me after she brought me around her friends
 

kid charlemagne

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i dont know how that all relates enough to the thread message but some stuff i read here had me thinking about past two women i was with..... something ive also been thinking about, how do you think age factors into this "orbit" ideas? past few women have been older than me and the way they ended were terribly.....
 

dilbert1

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That’s what the rich Canadian girl wanted from me, just as much as she was attracted by my overeducated working class dilettante life, meeting all my friends and schmoozing her way into new social spheres, it was equally a ploy to try and turn me into some kind of stiff that would sacrifice everything for the someday nepotistic approval of her ultra-wealthy father and grandparents. But she wanted it all at once. I was supposed to figure out how to make at least six figures starting immediately (eventually $1M salary), convert to Islam, but also write a few hit songs and have a music career, but also go to law or engineering school, and of course befriend more cool artists, move to and afford living in London, dress like a twat, commit to having children in the next two or three years, buy her lots of vintage designer clothing… all for someone with the emotional intelligence of a 13 year old who often behaved like one too, and who’d hardly ever earned a single thing in her life.

But to the topic, her orbit was actually pretty cool, she had surrounded herself with small-time musicians and painters, and not the rich kid silver spoon types, people who work in pizza shops or painting houses, going to art school on the cheap, couples living modestly while pursuing their creative interests. She wanted their and my ‘cool’ but doesn’t realize it can’t be bought and that these orbits can only produce so much of a venn diagram, and that there’s a big difference between acutely observing and adjudicating cultural trends, and being the sort of person that practice idealizes.
 

0bleak

A Liniment's Evil Work
strut your stuff bleak

ok, but give me a bit to organize my thoughts into something coherent and hopefully kind of concise, also not too rambling or too repetitive of things said elsewhere, and something that is even slightly worthy of this board teeming with intimidating minds, and then to also type it out! (one finger hunt-and-peck guy here)
 
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