James McNeil Whistler

IdleRich

IdleRich
Who knows anything about this guy? American in Victorian London. From what I've read he was a very interesting character, regularly bested Oscar Wilde in battles of wits, his signature was a butterfly with a scorpions tale which is pretty fucking cool..... I like the story of him decorating for someone and fucking up their three hundred year old Japanese leather bits that had belonged to some queen of Spain or something... but his most famous painting is the one commonly known as Whistler's Mother which aint as exciting as all the stuff I just said. But I think, just like Wilde he was probably more interesting for his theories of art than his own art. Apparently he called himself The Amazing One and dressed in this suited dandy style despite being five foot four or something like. Also was famous for suing some critic (Ruskin maybe?) for insulting his painting. I think maybe he won the case but the fees bankrupted him.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
"My dear fellow," cried Whistler, "you must never say that this painting's good or that bad, never! Good and bad are not terms to be used by you; but say, I like this, and I dislike that, and you'll be within your right. And now come and have a whiskey for you're sure to like that."

Carried away by the witty fling, Oscar cried:

"I wish I had said that."

"You will, Oscar, you will," came Whistler's lightning thrust.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Harmony in Blue and Gold: The Peacock Room (better known as The Peacock Room is a work of interior decorative art created by James McNeill Whistler and Thomas Jeckyll, translocated to the Freer Gallery of Art in Washington, D.C. Whistler painted the paneled room in a unified palette of blue-greens with over-glazing and metallic gold leaf. Painted between 1876 and 1877, it now is considered one of the greatest surviving Aesthetic interiors, and best examples of the Anglo-Japanese style.

History​

The Peacock Room was originally designed to serve as the dining room in the townhouse located at 49 Prince's Gate in the neighbourhood of Kensington in London, and owned by the British shipping magnate Frederick Richards Leyland. Leyland engaged the British architect Richard Norman Shaw to remodel and redecorate his home. Shaw entrusted the remodelling of the dining room to Thomas Jeckyll, another British architect experienced in the Anglo-Japanese style. Jeckyll conceived the dining room as a Porzellanzimmer (porcelain room).

He covered the walls with 16th-century wall hangings of Cuir de Cordoue that had been originally brought to England as part of the dowry of Catherine of Aragon. They were painted with her heraldic device, the open pomegranate, and a series of red Tudor roses to symbolize her union with Henry VIII. They had hung on the walls of a Tudor style house in Norfolk for centuries before they were bought by Leyland for £1,000. Against these walls, Jekyll constructed an intricate lattice framework of engraved spindled walnut shelves that held Leyland's collection of Chinese blue and white porcelain, mostly from the Kangxi era of the Qing dynasty.

To the south of the room, a walnut Welsh dresser was placed in the centre, just below the large empty leather panel, and flanked on both sides by the framework shelves. On the east side, three tall windows parted the room overlooking a private park, and covered by full-length walnut shutters. To the north a fireplace, over which hung the painting by American painter James McNeill Whistler, Rose and Silver: The Princess from the Land of Porcelain, that served as the focal point of the room. The ceiling was constructed in a pendant panelled Tudor-style, and decorated with eight globed pendant gas light fixtures. To finish the room, Jekyll placed a rug with a red border on the floor.

The Princess from the Land of Porcelain, in situ in the Peacock Room
Jeckyll had nearly completed his decorative scheme when an illness compelled him to abandon the project. Whistler, who was then working on decorations for the entrance hall of Leyland's house, volunteered to finish Jeckyll's work in the dining room. Concerned that the red roses adorning the leather wall hangings clashed with the colours in The Princess, Whistler suggested retouching the leather with yellow paint, and Leyland agreed to that minor alteration.He also authorised Whistler to embellish the cornice and wainscoting with a "wave pattern" derived from the design in Jeckyll's leaded-glass door, and then went to his home in Liverpool. During Leyland's absence, however, Whistler grew bolder with his revisions.

Well, you know, I just painted on. I went on—without design or sketch—it grew as I painted. And toward the end, I reached such a point of perfection—putting in every touch with such freedom—that when I came round to the corner where I started, why, I had to paint part of it over again, as the difference would have been too marked. And the harmony in blue and gold developing, you know, I forgot everything in my joy in it!
— James McNeill Whistler
Upon returning, Leyland was shocked by the "improvements". The artist and patron quarreled so violently over the room and the proper compensation for the work that the relationship for Whistler was terminated. At one point, Whistler gained access to Leyland's home and painted two fighting peacocks meant to represent the artist and his patron, which he titled Art and Money: or, The Story of the Room.

Whistler is reported to have said to Leyland, "Ah, I have made you famous. My work will live when you are forgotten. Still, per chance, in the dim ages to come you will be remembered as the proprietor of the Peacock Room."

The dispute between Whistler and Leyland did not end there. In 1879, Whistler was forced to file for bankruptcy, and Leyland was his chief creditor at the time. When the creditors arrived to inventory the artist's home for liquidation, they were greeted by The Gold Scab: Eruption in Frilthy Lucre (The Creditor), a large painted caricature of Leyland portrayed as an anthropomorphic demonic peacock playing a piano, sitting upon Whistler's house, painted in the same colours featured in the Peacock Room.He referenced the incident again in his book, The Gentle Art of Making Enemies .Adding to the emotional drama was Whistler's fondness for Leyland's wife, Frances, who separated from her husband in 1879. Another result of this drama was Jeckyll who, so shocked by the first sight of his room, returned home and was later found on the floor of his studio covered in gold leaf; he never recovered and died insane three years later.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
On a brisk November day in 1878, luminaries of the London art world and members of the press gathered in Old Bailey courthouse to witness an unusual trial. The American painter James Abbott McNeill Whistler was suing the eminent art critic John Ruskin for libel, his response to a particularly harsh review. Though the trial only lasted two days, it would become a source of bitter resentment for the rest of both men’s lives. More significantly, the lawsuit spurred a debate about the values of art, as well as the role and creative freedoms of artist and critic in society.

As England’s leading critic during the Victorian era, Ruskin was a widely trusted authority on taste. The Industrial Revolution had precipitated the growth of a wealthy middle class, which led to an increased demand for forward-looking contemporary art. Meanwhile, the country was finally beginning to shake off its provincial ties to Continental Europe and develop a uniquely British style. Much of the public looked to Ruskin’s writings in order to determine what was good in British art, and what was bad. He was the quintessential Victorian sage, a polymathic writer who endeavored to transform culture and society through his demonstrative writings.

Although he was born in Lowell, Massachusetts, Whistler settled in London in the 1860s and quickly became a central figure of the British Aesthetic movement. This group championed the credo “art for art’s sake,” the idea that art should be enjoyed for its formal qualities—such as expressive brushwork or coloring—rather than moralistic or sentimental subject matter. “Art should be independent of all clap-trap—should stand alone, and appeal to the artistic sense of eye or ear,” Whistler once wrote. Strongly influenced by Japanese woodblock prints, which were then beginning to stream into Europe, Whistler’s innovative painting style emphasized mood and tonal harmony above all else. Accordingly, he named his paintings “arrangements,” “harmonies,” and “symphonies” to evoke music’s abstract nature.

He signed each piece with a stylized butterfly with a stinger for a tail, a symbol that reflected his charming and combative public persona.

In the fateful summer of 1877, Ruskin paid a visit to the inaugural exhibition at the newly opened Grosvenor Gallery in London, a presentation of modern works that had been rejected from the traditional Royal Academy of Arts. He was immediately enamored by the work of Pre-Raphaelite painter Edward Burne-Jones, who was then little-known. The paintings, which take biblical, literary, and allegorical themes as their subjects, satisfied Ruskin’s criteria for art. The critic believed that the artist’s main duty is to observe and express nature, which is a representation of God’s goodness. Art that captures this truth to nature could, therefore, uplift the morality of the viewer.

On another wall in the gallery, Ruskin encountered Whistler’s Nocturne in Black and Gold, the Falling Rocket (1875). The painting, priced at 200 guineas—a relatively large amount at the time—depicts fireworks exploding over the Thames in an ephemeral, atmospheric style, the glitter of the falling sparks rendered in brilliant gold speckles; the pedestrians in the foreground in loose, translucent brushstrokes. The work is part of a series of “Nocturnes,” in which the artist applied Asian design principles to moonlit views of the river.

Although Ruskin hated the painting, it wasn’t the level of abstraction that he opposed. In one of his best-known writings, a five-volume work called Modern Painters (1843–60),


Ruskin passionately advocated for the Romantic artist J.M.W. Turner, whose work was even more abstract. But whereas Ruskin sensed evidence of the divine in Turner’s dramatic landscapes, in Whistler’s work, he saw an artist who favored pictorial invention at the expense of “truth to nature.”


Ruskin reviewed the exhibition in Fors Clavigera, his monthly periodical addressed to the “workmen and labourers of Great Britain.” (The publication’s mix of criticism and personal commentary has led some to suggest that the periodical was a precursor to the blog.) Ruskin praised Burne-Jones’s work as “simply the only art-work at present produced in England which will be received by the future as ‘classic’ in its kind.” He then turned to Whistler’s Nocturne, writing: “I have seen, and heard, much of Cockney impudence before now; but never expected to hear a coxcomb ask two hundred guineas for flinging a pot of paint in the public’s face.” (Ruskin’s pronouncement has come to pass in some ways: London’s Tate Britain is currently staging an exhibition of Burne-Jones’s work, though Whistler enjoys a wider acclaim.)
Whistler was stunned; Ruskin had smeared not only his art, but his legitimacy as an artist. Yet his decision to sue Ruskin for libel was not entirely vindictive; some scholars have interpreted his decision as a savvy business move. After all, Whistler had received criticism for his experimental art before. As Linda Merrill notes in A Pot of Paint: Aesthetics on Trial in Whistler v. Ruskin, the artist may have seen the negative critique as an opportunity to pay off the debt he had accumulated from living well beyond his means. The trial, if he won, would allow him to promote his philosophy of art and attack a popular critic in a public forum, ultimately feeding into his public image.
The trial had to be delayed due to Ruskin’s declining physical and mental health. When a year had passed and he was still too ill to attend, Ruskin elected Burne-Jones to testify on his behalf, and secured the attorney general Sir John Holker to represent him in court. Over the next two days, Whistler and Burne-Jones, along with the artists and critics called as witnesses, debated a range of issues, from Whistler’s artistic philosophy and the merits and flaws of Nocturne to the fundamental rights of the critic.








The review and the attention it garnered from the press, Whistler argued, had damaged his reputation as an artist. The defense’s tactic was to both criticize Whistler’s art—thereby justifying Ruskin’s critique—and uphold the right of the critic to freely ridicule a work. Burne-Jones testified that Whistler’s Nocturne was “a beautiful sketch; but that is not alone sufficient to make it a good work of art. It is deficient in form, and form is as essential as color.”
Whistler took full advantage of the spotlight, masterfully defending his practice with droll responses and clever turns of phrase that were often met with applause from the audience. During his cross-examination, Holker asked Whistler how long it took for him to “knock off” one of his paintings. When Whistler responded that it took just two days, Holker asked if two days’ labor was worth 200 guineas. “No,” Whistler responded, “I ask it for the knowledge I have gained in the work of a lifetime.”
While Whistler ultimately won the case, it was seen by the public as a loss on both sides. American writer Henry James, who was then based in London, wrote in The Nation: “The crudity and levity of the whole affair were decidedly painful, and few things, I think, have lately done more to vulgarize the public sense of the character of artistic production.” Though the artist had claimed damages of 1,000 pounds in addition to his court costs, he was only awarded a farthing—about one-thousandth of a single pound—in damages. Now bankrupt, he sold his lavish house in London and set off to Venice to work on a commission of etchings.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Guy was definitely a character. Seems he saw himself as a mentor to WIlde and then their verbal jousting turned to genuine hatred... he made a quip along the lines of "buggers can't be choosers" when Wilde was penurious in Paris. Still who remembers him now?
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Oh another famous one when Wilde handed him a poem on some delicate barely there manuscript paper and Whistler said "It's worth its weight in gold Oscar"
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
OK nobody wants to talk about Whistler, how about Sickert, I think his work was much more interesting plus some people think he was Jack the Ripper - though that's obviously not true.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Thanks for reading though. I don't know really, just find it interesting that someone who was a huge figure at the time could vanish entirely for our generation. I think he was probably a massive arsehole but I kinda feel he shoudln't be forgotten. The reason I put his whole name is to distinguish him from the other Whistler who I suspect is equally forgotten.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Also Ruskin.... whatever else he's known for will always be better known as the guy who was too disgusted by what an actual woman - as opposed to the paintings he pulled himself off over all the time - looked like with no pants on that he was unable to consummate his marriage. The most famous limp dick in history I reckon. Anyone who ever mentions Ruskin is compelled to repeat that fact, it's the law.
 

jenks

thread death
I dunno if that’s true - what they’ll be remembered for, I mean. Whistler has enjoyed a steady reputation and gets shown regularly at major galleries - he’s seen as a precursor to modern art and as someone who took on many of the ideas of the Impressionists.

As for Ruskin, his writing on Turner is still pretty spot on. His Stones of Venice is a beautiful book and his influence on Proust shouldn’t be ignored.

If anything Wilde is the one who is remembered more for gossip and quips as any danger he may have presented has been neutered by the establishment’s embrace - forever putting in celeb based productions of Importance.

Sickert - no, he wasn’t the Ripper but I think he was one of the most important British artists of the last hundred years.
 

catalog

Well-known member
I love whistler.

Whistler along with monet and valette ushered in the new. Foreign eyes.

I wrote about him on here before:

This one in ref to him being a vagabond/fraud:

One of my faves is Whistler and I think you've got a lot of his life right. The things you've missed out: be a total fraud/scoundrel and a test to your apprentices so that your legacy is protected.
This one in praise of his nocturne and idea of using musical form to inform his painting
i am into nocturnes! i have a section in smog all about whistler!
Whistler was prito-psychogeographer:
It's not a piss take. Its to do with light. I think some impressionism was a product of the city, urbanisation, and industrialisation.

Heavy industry in the mid 1850s onwards produced a lot of what we now call smog. Had a huge effect on light and air quality in most cities. Mostly something people got (rightly) upset about but it changed the way things looked. Lot of pinks, reds, greens, purples, suddenly turned up in the air so for some artists, that becomes the focus.

Whilst at the same time the foreground detail (ie the people) went out of focus.

Monet and Whistler in London are the best examples, the smog was worst in London and these two emigres happened to be there at the time (turn of 19th/20th) and 'saw' it.

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The smog!
600+ pages into it now - it's really good.

Two bits in particular have been outstanding:

Painting:

Dally in Venice with the painter, Hunter, who is painting the same street corner day after day, trying to capture the light right. It's quite close to some reading/writing I've done around smog in london "causing" Impressionism in the 1890s, cos of what it did to the light.

So Monet and Whistler there, who he mentions.

But interestingly, Pynchon latches onto the fog in Venice and makes this genius connection with all his maths talk:

"In Venice we have a couple of thousand words for fog: Nebbia, Nebbieta, Foschia, Caligo, Sfumato. And the speed of sound being a function of the density is different in each. In Venice, space and time, being more dependent on hearing than sight, are actually modulated by fog."

I was inspired to think about the effects of smog cos I was going to loads of gigs, particularly at the white hotel but also Dean Blunt ones, where the room is just filled with smoke, so full it's disorienting. A lot of red light:

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And I thought about how it would concentrate your attention on the music, but I love what Pynchon says about it actually affecting sound, and had not thought that before.

And he's got a lovely poetry when talking about the "noise" in the sky which affects the light, the "sky scatter".

I love this from him as well:

"It's as if these Venetian painters saw things we can't see anymore"

in reference to Dally and Hunter looking at this painting by Tintoretto.

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It reminds me of when Levi-Strauss is in the Amazon jungle and the tribe are pointing out Sirius to him, and he can't see it. But they can, their eyes are attuned to it, whereas his aren't.

And then a bit later on, they are talking to this other painter, Tancredi:

"To reveal the future, we must get around the inertia of paint. Paint wishes to remain as it is. We desire transformation. So this not so much a painting as a dialectical argument."

I looked up Tancredi, he's real, but from the 50s. So he's come back in time I think, cos it's the early 1900s at latest, is before WW1.

And it seems to be based on what he was actually doing, using splatters and then working them up.

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Gas:

"Connected by gas for emotional reasons"


There's this character Replevin, who is using gas as a means of communication. He gets investigated cos there's a suspicion he knows the secret location of Shambhala, which is one of the subplots.

So this guy goes over on a pretence of selling him some insurance and finds him hanging upside with his head in an oven - gas mask on.

And Replevin says:

"Via the medium of gas a carefully modulated set of waves travels from the emissions facility to us through the appropriate hoses to the receiving mask you have seen, which one must of course wear over ears, nose and mouth."

And also:

"Smell can be a medium for the most exquisite poetry."

It gets better - he goes onto explain how in India, there are temples where empty space is worshipped. Pure "Akasa" which can be thought of as "Ether" is the 5th element.

So he talks about how this "nothing" contains "everything" - "Atman".

But then explains that from the Sanskrit "Akasa", the Greeks derived "Chaos", which then becomes "Gas" because the alchemist working on it was Dutch, so the Greek "Ch" gets rendered as "Gas".

"Our own modern chaos, our bearer of sound and light, the akasa flowing from our sacred spring, the local gasworks. Do you wonder that for some the gas oven is worshipped at, as a sort of shrine".

Genius stuff.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Of course Ruskin is a huge figure but everyone tells that story whenever they mention him..
I know Whistker is big but maybe not a very dissensus artist. Kinda bridge between pre-Raphaelites and modernity.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
@jenks it definitely feels like Oscar Wilde kinda underachieved or just didn't do much. I guess he was a broken man by the time he was forty - though then again Beardsley died at 25 or so and he managed a fair bit - but surely he will be remembered for Lady Windermere's Fan, The Importance of Being Earnest and The Picture of Dorian Gray at least.
 
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