mixed_biscuits

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You think hamas communicates through text messages? No wonder your boys can't defeat them and think by indiscriminate killing they will win the war, when in fact they will paint their objective losses and a hamas tactical retreat as a military success, as Israeli public institutions disintegrate. Only Israelis will turn, and kill fellow Israelis.
The killing is not indiscriminate, you sloppy propagandist.

P.S. I bet you £100 your fantasy won't happen.
 

mixed_biscuits

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they're throwing people from rooftops now, every accusation is a confession
"This is a serious incident that does not coincide with IDF values and the expectations from IDF soldiers," the military said in a statement, using the acronym it goes by. "The incident is under review."
Those people were already dead and the military said the above. Please direct us towards Hamas apologising for militant conduct that falls short of their own impeccable moral standards, you gigantic goof.
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
Well some people - you know, liberals, the real terrorists - might suggest that gang-raping civilian women and then setting them on fire was, in some sense, not quite cricket.
yes exactly, one of the accusations that was never proven and would later turn out to be enacted actually by the terror organisation idf on palestinian hostages.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
yes exactly, one of the accusations that was never proven and would later turn out to be enacted actually by the terror organisation idf on palestinian hostages.
Believe what you want to believe, I guess.

But you can't deny that they killed a fuckton of civilians.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
There was a UN report that found that both Palestinian and Israeli forces had committed sexual violence in the Hamas attack and the IDF counter-attack, so you can hardly dismiss that as Zionist propaganda or whatever.

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yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
obviously that is awful. but it's not the organized and planned mass raping of women, it's also not the beheading of babies and it's also not the putting of babies in ovens. those are only a few of the stories that have turned out to be made up and surfaced shortly after 7 october and which have been used to justify an actual genocide. some of these stories were made up by the search and rescue organisation zaka whose co-founder was a paedophile and rapist himself: https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-sexual-violence-zaka-ca7905bf9520b1e646f86d72cdf03244

"A U.N. fact-finding team found “reasonable grounds” to believe that some of those who stormed southern Israel on Oct. 7 had committed sexual violence, including rape and gang rape. But the U.N. investigators also said that in the absence of forensic evidence and survivor testimony, it would be impossible to determine the scope of such violence. Hamas has denied its forces committed sexual violence."

that's also the last thing i will write about it because everybody here has chosen their side already and won't be persuaded to think otherwise anyway.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
obviously that is awful. but it's not the organized and planned mass raping of women, it's also not the beheading of babies and it's also not the putting of babies in ovens. those are only a few of the stories that have turned out to be made up and surfaced shortly after 7 october and which have been used to justify an actual genocide. some of these stories were made up by the search and rescue organisation zaka whose co-founder was a paedophile and rapist himself: https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-sexual-violence-zaka-ca7905bf9520b1e646f86d72cdf03244

"A U.N. fact-finding team found “reasonable grounds” to believe that some of those who stormed southern Israel on Oct. 7 had committed sexual violence, including rape and gang rape. But the U.N. investigators also said that in the absence of forensic evidence and survivor testimony, it would be impossible to determine the scope of such violence. Hamas has denied its forces committed sexual violence."

that's also the last thing i will write about it because everybody here has chosen their side already and won't be persuaded to think otherwise anyway.
Well hang on, you said a minute ago that it was never proven and now you're saying "Yeah well maybe it happened a bit."
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind


if this is from a single drone obtained by the resistance imagine what horrors we are not being shown, the death cult that is israel has no regards for human life
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
more than 200 people massacred and 700 injured in southern lebanon after israel decided all lebanese people are members of hezbollah. hezbollah should be eredicated and they are hiding in every single civilian building. they call this de-escalating. and the world watches.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket

He has to.

more than 200 people massacred and 700 injured in southern lebanon after israel decided all lebanese people are members of hezbollah. hezbollah should be eredicated and they are hiding in every single civilian building. they call this de-escalating. and the world watches.

I suppose they really want Nasrallah to declare full scale war on them so that the US and affiliates can continue to back them. Of course, what constitutes 'war' and what doesn't in this juncture is a question for those huddled in the quagmire of international relations theory. But let us settle with a ground operation, sending troops and tanks into Lebanon to fight for a buffer zone, which is the diplomatic way of saying occupation in all but name...

As predicted, Israel does not want to instigate the war themselves, but psychologically grind down hizbullah to prompt a casus belli. They have opted for belligerence over brinkmanship (détenté this is not.)

Netanyahu is becoming truly irrational and desperate.

The aim of course is to actually turn Israel into an imperialist power (in the Leninist definition of Imperialism) but one has to wonder if they have miscalculated. How much can they spearhead post-war construction and capital exports?
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
He has to.



I suppose they really want Nasrallah to declare full scale war on them so that the US and affiliates can continue to back them. Of course, what constitutes 'war' and what doesn't in this juncture is a question for those huddled in the quagmire of international relations theory. But let us settle with a ground operation, sending troops and tanks into Lebanon to fight for a buffer zone, which is the diplomatic way of saying occupation in all but name...

As predicted, Israel does not want to instigate the war themselves, but psychologically grind down hizbullah to prompt a casus belli. They have opted for belligerence over brinkmanship (détenté this is not.)

Netanyahu is becoming truly irrational and desperate.

The aim of course is to actually turn Israel into an imperialist power (in the Leninist definition of Imperialism) but one has to wonder if they have miscalculated. How much can they spearhead post-war construction and capital exports?
i think he wants war with iran,as long as biden is in power netanyahu can just do what he wants. either way it will be the end of israel.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
i think he wants war with iran,as long as biden is in power netanyahu can just do what he wants. either way it will be the end of israel.

War with Iran is what he wants, but a potential war with Lebanon is what he might get, although hizbullah as a (partial) non-state actor is happy to continue trading fire at the border for the foreseeable. But neither the Lebanese government nor hizbullah's grassroots base can be satisfied with the status quo.
 
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