luka

Well-known member
manic street preachers is one of those things that always made me feel sick to my stomach, physically disgusted. an extreme visceral reaction of horror and dismay. REM is another one.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
manic street preachers is one of those things that always made me feel sick to my stomach, physically disgusted. an extreme visceral reaction of horror and dismay. REM is another one.
Too earnest? They don't get mentioned a lot on here, you're correct.
 

luka

Well-known member
not sure i could analyse it tbh. theres just a whole heap of things that even as a child or teen made me feel bad. ABBA would be a another one. made me feel distressed.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
The people I met who were into them were all nerds, I met them a few years later via message boards. Interesting that they just escaped the Internet as well. The last gasp of lack of surveillance.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
not sure i could analyse it tbh. theres just a whole heap of things that even as a child or teen made me feel bad. ABBA would be a another one. made me feel distressed.
I suspect they weren't that popular in London. They seem like a band who're gonna generate an intense regional fan base.
 

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Beast of Burden
I feel like the spectre of the Manic Street Preachers haunts this discussion.
Perhaps that's the real opposition, not Oasis vs Blur but them vs MSP.
I was never into them at the time but I later met a lot of people really moved by Holy Bible - but if a last gasp for "rock as art that can change the world".

‘The Holy Bible’ and ‘Modern Life is Rubbish’ are the only UK indie/rock albums I still think about from that time. Both odd, desperate statements/interventions by two bands at different stages of disintegration.
 

Benny Bunter

Well-known member
I feel like the spectre of the Manic Street Preachers haunts this discussion.
Perhaps that's the real opposition, not Oasis vs Blur but them vs MSP.
I was never into them at the time but I later met a lot of people really moved by Holy Bible - but if a last gasp for "rock as art that can change the world".
Radiohead and Nirvana too - Oasis we're always slagging them off for being depressing.
 

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Beast of Burden
Radiohead and Nirvana too - Oasis we're always slagging them off for being depressing.

Also all the Thames Valley shoegazers and Transit Van bands. It's easy to forget how ubiquitous this sort of apologetic, unglamorous kind of stuff was in 1990/91 (Slowdive, Ride, Swervedriver, Neds Atomic Dustbin, Senseless Things, etc.) and how strong the backlash to it was in 1993. It's what led, in 1993/94 to Blur Phase 2, the New Wave of New Wave, Britpop and, finally, at the end of the line, Oasis. It always seemed like a domestic revolt to me. It was Blur, in fact, who complained the most about Nirvana.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
shaka hislop good on this thread i think. way better than anyone going oh man they were like boring.

give me a list of their 5 best songs excluding Wonderwall and I will listen attentively. I don't trust benny cos he's in with the Cumbria lot and bent premier league refs.
 
not sure i could analyse it tbh. theres just a whole heap of things that even as a child or teen made me feel bad. ABBA would be an another one. made me feel distressed.
Feel the same way about these two. Iots of celebratory stuff makes me feel alienated, Abba are like the happy birthday song or fireworks
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I was into judge dredd back in the day too

I'm imagining an alternative world where the internet didn't take off and I was still happily convinced in my bubble that oasis and judge dredd were the height of culture
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
Abba are fantastic. concentrated dopamine hit pop attitude with good tragicomic lyrics. what more could one want?
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I really like abba too...

Well, the usual five or six tunes everyone likes (apart from shiels ofc)

The happy birthday song though, does anyone really like that? It was written in the 19th century by an American, I looked it up the other day.
 
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