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MatthewH
26-03-2010, 01:09 AM
Just listening to the Roska MAH mix on the Beeb website. Anyone else annoyed with the amount of "Roska!"s that he throws in?

Does he think his sound is so bland and generic that he has to constantly remind people who's playing, lest they forget?

It's funny - the beginning of that mix even has a bit of random hate to the people that are using his rhythms and even his same drum kits.

Um... maybe... he uses sounds that are freely available to everybody, then doesn't make them sound different at all? Making him as guilty of laziness as the biters are of biting.

Just sayin' is all.

Matthew

Ory
26-03-2010, 01:12 AM
roska's overall sound is very unique. don't know who these biters are that he keeps referring to though.

michael
26-03-2010, 01:26 AM
I like Roska's stuff, but agree the namechecking thing is pretty tedious.

Nii-Teiko
26-03-2010, 01:30 AM
have been bloody amazing

I like the tagging but can see how it will annoy

he has IT

tom lea
26-03-2010, 03:32 AM
i think the roskaroskaroska tag is great.

franz
26-03-2010, 06:29 AM
i'll take it over the crazy cousins' one.

but in fairness it was way cooler when i heard it on that untold remix for the very first time.

IanTheM
26-03-2010, 08:14 AM
Really not worth getting worked up over, at all.

mms
26-03-2010, 09:22 AM
Really not worth getting worked up over, at all.

yeah save the anger for defending james blake.

Damien
26-03-2010, 01:17 PM
OP is clearly not a fan of bassline house then :D

mr mr mr mr mr mr mr v...

Tim F
26-03-2010, 02:02 PM
but in fairness it was way cooler when i heard it on that untold remix for the very first time.

Yeah, back when dude was fresh, now he's so played out eh.

rwtt
26-03-2010, 02:09 PM
good bacon has Danish written all over it.

it kind of reminds me of that.

franz
26-03-2010, 05:03 PM
Yeah, back when dude was fresh, now he's so played out eh.

no. it was just very explicitly working with the beat skeleton of the song, and working very well. better than i've known it to at other times.

Benny B
26-03-2010, 05:10 PM
This is a daft thread. Its standard practice to have signatures in your tunes.

Saw Roska play the other night in Newcastle and was delighted at the reception he got. Can't help feeling cynical about his forthcoming album though. Its almost sure to be a disappointment isn't it?

baboon2004
26-03-2010, 05:25 PM
i'll take it over the crazy cousins' one.


The one where they say their name isn't all that, but their sonic 'whoop' signature is brilliant

grizzleb
26-03-2010, 05:31 PM
I'm looking forward to his album, it got a poor write-up in this month's WIRE though. Need to wait and see. I love all his stuff up to now though.
The roskaroskaroska tag I like, but I suppose it can get tedious. I've caught myself chanting it when steaming having conversations about him before.

Tentative Andy
26-03-2010, 05:34 PM
Can't help feeling cynical about his forthcoming album though. Its almost sure to be a disappointment isn't it?

Well we'll have to wait and see obv, but I do hope it's not all stuff along the same lines as Squark - thought that one was a wee bit rubbish tbh.

I think I've posted before that I'm quite partial to his producer-signature thing. My fave use of it is prob from his remix of Fingaprint's The Print way back when.

franz
26-03-2010, 06:12 PM
it's a fairly common thing these days... when do you figure it started?

can't think of one that i like more than Terror Danjah's...

edit:

just listening to Marcus' most recent Rinse set... totally did not realize that that track with the "i need it i need it" vocal was Roska... for the longest time i was just assuming it was Deep Tecknologi... it's been floating around for a long time now, but i'm glad to see it having a bit of a surge. the vocal is great.

mms
26-03-2010, 07:07 PM
it's a fairly common thing these days... when do you figure it started?

can't think of one that i like more than Terror Danjah's...

edit:

just listening to Marcus' most recent Rinse set... totally did not realize that that track with the "i need it i need it" vocal was Roska... for the longest time i was just assuming it was Deep Tecknologi... it's been floating around for a long time now, but i'm glad to see it having a bit of a surge. the vocal is great.


thats the next single

hopper
26-03-2010, 09:55 PM
This is a daft thread. Its standard practice to have signatures in your tunes.

Saw Roska play the other night in Newcastle and was delighted at the reception he got. Can't help feeling cynical about his forthcoming album though. Its almost sure to be a disappointment isn't it?

How was that deviate? I'm up at uni in Newcastle, but just missed it cos I went home. Would have really liked to catch roska

zhao
26-03-2010, 10:32 PM
I do hope it's not all stuff along the same lines as Squark - thought that one was a wee bit rubbish tbh.


i like squark. fun tune

muser
26-03-2010, 10:46 PM
havn't heard the mix but don't they do it sometimes to stop people ripping the tracks? Either that or it could just b getting over excited with the sample button and not realizing he's been repeatedly pressing it through-out the mix.
I did a laptop mix in some little backroom with some friends and we thought it would be a good idea to have midi pad to trigger 808 cowbell samples/ rave stabs and cliche vocals such as "that's my man going down". We were all drunk and by the end quite a few people ending up coming up us saying its all good but please fucking stop playing that annoying "coin"(cowbell) sample. It was fun though.

MatthewH
26-03-2010, 11:11 PM
havn't heard the mix but don't they do it sometimes to stop people ripping the tracks?

Very possibly. Doesn't make it less annoying. You can use any number of tricks to keep people from ripping your tune that don't seem so ... crass.

Shame, really, as it's a great mix aside from that.

FYI, You can check it out on the BBC website until next Wednesday.

bassbeyondreason
27-03-2010, 12:06 AM
How was that deviate? I'm up at uni in Newcastle, but just missed it cos I went home. Would have really liked to catch roska

Mental night. Roska definitely nailed it, left Brackles sounding a bit tame by comparison.

CrowleyHead
27-03-2010, 01:21 AM
First time I heard the "Roska!Roska!Roska!" I thought he'd sampled Kano saying his name. Huh.

wise
27-03-2010, 01:25 AM
havn't heard the mix but don't they do it sometimes to stop people ripping the tracks? Either that or it could just b getting over excited with the sample button and not realizing he's been repeatedly pressing it through-out the mix.

I don't think this is the cause, Roska plays an awful lot of his own productions and they are all peppered with 'ROSKA's.
End result is a set full of roska! roska! roska!
I saw him at the Fantastic 4 night at Nightslugs and it was very much like that.

Doesn't bother me though

samdiamond
27-03-2010, 01:45 AM
i like the roskaroskaroska thing. it's very fun. however i was at an art gallery the other day and i couldn't help thinking rothkorothkorothko etc

Tim F
27-03-2010, 06:09 AM
Funky producer signatures rated:

Roska - Somewhat boring in and of itself, but the rhythmic repetitiveness of 'roska!roska!roska!' sounds great when dropped at the right moment of a track. 6

Crazy Cousinz - The "Whoop!" works in so many settings, is instantly reognisable without being so singular as to get annoying through overuse, and is great not merely as a producer signature but as a herald of key points in the tune - usually it drops just before the beat rolls out again. 9

Scotty D / Funk Factory - Points deducted for not being intelligible: purportedly this is "now hear this!" but it sounds like "whoiddit?" to me. 4

Cooly G - The lazy drawl of "yeah it's Cooly S G, mwah" is so seductive, though its very laziness works against its capacity to act as a hype inducer. But it never gets old either. 7

Funkystepz - Sometimes this is straightforward but when they stutter it "F-f-f-f-f-funkystepz!" in a highpitched goblin chirp it's by far the best drop-announcer in the game. 9

Greyman - That scraggy chuckle makes me think of a ghost dog (though not Ghost Dog) so points for imaginativeness. But it's an easy signature to overlook. 6

Lil' Silva - Kinda boring "menacing" slow announcement of his name, barely different from all the "marcus... nasty... dub-dub-plate..." stuff. 4

Screama - "Complex Simplicity!" wins sympathy votes for me simply because it references Teedra Moses, but in truth this is not that successful a producer tag. 5

Ill Blu - Not one but two tags, on the one hand those disgusted "ew!" cries which probably technically involve someone attempting to say "Ill", then the evil robot intoning "Ill... Blu..." The sense of timing for the deployment of both is almost always exquisite. Flawless in concept and execution. 10

IanTheM
27-03-2010, 07:46 AM
Funky producer signatures rated:

Roska - Somewhat boring in and of itself, but the rhythmic repetitiveness of 'roska!roska!roska!' sounds great when dropped at the right moment of a track. 6

Crazy Cousinz - The "Whoop!" works in so many settings, is instantly reognisable without being so singular as to get annoying through overuse, and is great not merely as a producer signature but as a herald of key points in the tune - usually it drops just before the beat rolls out again. 9

Scotty D / Funk Factory - Points deducted for not being intelligible: purportedly this is "now hear this!" but it sounds like "whoiddit?" to me. 4

Cooly G - The lazy drawl of "yeah it's Cooly S G, mwah" is so seductive, though its very laziness works against its capacity to act as a hype inducer. But it never gets old either. 7

Funkystepz - Sometimes this is straightforward but when they stutter it "F-f-f-f-f-funkystepz!" in a highpitched goblin chirp it's by far the best drop-announcer in the game. 9

Greyman - That scraggy chuckle makes me think of a ghost dog (though not Ghost Dog) so points for imaginativeness. But it's an easy signature to overlook. 6

Lil' Silva - Kinda boring "menacing" slow announcement of his name, barely different from all the "marcus... nasty... dub-dub-plate..." stuff. 4

Screama - "Complex Simplicity!" wins sympathy votes for me simply because it references Teedra Moses, but in truth this is not that successful a producer tag. 5

Ill Blu - Not one but two tags, on the one hand those disgusted "ew!" cries which probably technically involve someone attempting to say "Ill", then the evil robot intoning "Ill... Blu..." The sense of timing for the deployment of both is almost always exquisite. Flawless in concept and execution. 10

Awesome.

mms
27-03-2010, 09:44 AM
Funky producer signatures rated:

Roska - Somewhat boring in and of itself, but the rhythmic repetitiveness of 'roska!roska!roska!' sounds great when dropped at the right moment of a track. 6

Crazy Cousinz - The "Whoop!" works in so many settings, is instantly reognisable without being so singular as to get annoying through overuse, and is great not merely as a producer signature but as a herald of key points in the tune - usually it drops just before the beat rolls out again. 9

Scotty D / Funk Factory - Points deducted for not being intelligible: purportedly this is "now hear this!" but it sounds like "whoiddit?" to me. 4

Cooly G - The lazy drawl of "yeah it's Cooly S G, mwah" is so seductive, though its very laziness works against its capacity to act as a hype inducer. But it never gets old either. 7

Funkystepz - Sometimes this is straightforward but when they stutter it "F-f-f-f-f-funkystepz!" in a highpitched goblin chirp it's by far the best drop-announcer in the game. 9

Greyman - That scraggy chuckle makes me think of a ghost dog (though not Ghost Dog) so points for imaginativeness. But it's an easy signature to overlook. 6

Lil' Silva - Kinda boring "menacing" slow announcement of his name, barely different from all the "marcus... nasty... dub-dub-plate..." stuff. 4

Screama - "Complex Simplicity!" wins sympathy votes for me simply because it references Teedra Moses, but in truth this is not that successful a producer tag. 5

Ill Blu - Not one but two tags, on the one hand those disgusted "ew!" cries which probably technically involve someone attempting to say "Ill", then the evil robot intoning "Ill... Blu..." The sense of timing for the deployment of both is almost always exquisite. Flawless in concept and execution. 10

:p:D

gumdrops
27-03-2010, 10:06 AM
i like some of the tags, when they sound a bit more inventive than that 'marcus nasty dubplate' branding. do like the roska one though, just cos even though its just his name, sounds kinda unusual, plus he seems to somehow make it fit into the beat. dont think i could hack a whole album of roska though. ive a feeling the album will be weak. his tracks are brilliantly constructed but its such a limited pallette, stretching it out over an album will prob = tracks that dont sound so roska-ish or severe boredom from being stuck in his limits for 45 mins. roska seems to remind me of terror danjah actually. same sort of limited arsenal of sounds, but always finding new ways to tweak it.

4linehaiku
27-03-2010, 10:55 AM
Tim F's analysis is great, but I'd put the Crazy Couzinz 'Whoo' at the top.
Lil Silva's is terrible.

Corpsey
27-03-2010, 11:34 AM
I like lil silvas on the pulse x refix

''LIL.

SILVA.''

BAWOMM BAWOMM

samdiamond
27-03-2010, 11:47 AM
Quite like the Rude Kid 'ARE U READY' one. Terror Danjah cackle also classic

paolo
27-03-2010, 01:28 PM
good bacon has Danish written all over it.

it kind of reminds me of that.

I like Roska but I'm a vegetarian

tom lea
27-03-2010, 01:30 PM
as a friend recently pointed out, the ILL. BLU one is great until you have a cd with 8 ill blu tracks on n you need to quickly figure out which one's which.

i love the lil silva drop on pulse v funky, like corpsey said.

and i like mosca's MOAAWSCA one.

tom lea
27-03-2010, 01:30 PM
I like Roska but I'm a vegetarian
that sounds like a wiley lyric.

oh, and i like the woman saying 'deep teknologi' thats on their mixes.

franz
27-03-2010, 04:37 PM
i love the lil silva drop on pulse v funky, like corpsey said.



yea thirded on this one.

one of my favourite VIP tags was from some shows from maybe 2 years ago, now when Marcus' Do You Mind plate had this beautiful vocal that went "the whole night, i'm listenin' to Marcus, Marcus Nasty"... don't think the song has ever sounded better for me than it did then

tom lea
29-03-2010, 09:31 PM
marcus's african warrior special is a thing to beyold.

benjybars
29-03-2010, 11:55 PM
Mak 10 on the frontline, frontline...

UFO over easy
30-03-2010, 12:27 AM
i like Bangladesh's

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nomos
30-03-2010, 12:27 AM
Mak 10 on the frontline, frontline...

that mak/marcus rinse set that kicks off with it... oh my goodness. still my favourite thing. 'keeps it gully on the frontline...'

UFO over easy
30-03-2010, 02:01 AM
got to listen hard to clock it in this one

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rowdy

staypuft
30-03-2010, 09:30 AM
I never thought about it til now, but Timbaland's signature is awesome - either the 'huh's or 'whut's or the beatboxing... 100% his touch.

benjybars
30-03-2010, 10:33 AM
ben - very good call on bangladesh. sick producer! good name aswell.. more producers should just name themselves after entire countries. i think Denmark would be a good name..

Tim F
30-03-2010, 10:35 AM
Dunmark, surely.

benjybars
30-03-2010, 10:44 AM
yeah.

Mauritius would be a good name for a female r&b singer. or a pornstar.

Damien
30-03-2010, 02:49 PM
Bangladesh is a sick producer