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petergunn
03-07-2010, 04:55 AM
dipset is back?

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atoga
03-07-2010, 04:40 PM
kmt

slackk
03-07-2010, 06:59 PM
this is big, i think. he's banged up now though

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stephenk
04-07-2010, 03:09 PM
new gucci is pretty fun

luka
07-07-2010, 07:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttD0GE23_TM&feature=player_embedded#!

zhao
07-07-2010, 09:30 AM
allow me to merk your trite selections with this:
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gumdrops
07-07-2010, 09:48 AM
new big boi album is a good one, though after listening to it more, i think its more a case of about 4-5 outstanding songs, the rest consistent but not really that remarkable. could be wrong though, need to spend a bit more time with it.

STN
07-07-2010, 10:05 AM
new big boi album is a good one, though after listening to it more, i think its more a case of about 4-5 outstanding songs, the rest consistent but not really that remarkable. could be wrong though, need to spend a bit more time with it.

yes, I've really enjoyed it on first listen (but not TOO much if you know what I mean - I sometimes find an album you fall in love with straightaway loses its shine very quickly). I was expecting it to be a sprawling crazy epic, so the idea of a few tracks that later turn out to be filler weirdly doesn't bother me that much. Love the one with George Clinton.The skits are lame.

mistersloane
07-07-2010, 10:11 AM
I like those Dipset tracks. But really, y'all are sleeping

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zhao
07-07-2010, 10:27 AM
prokid's got a nice flow. reminds me of the TKZEE family...

gumdrops
07-07-2010, 11:19 AM
yes, I've really enjoyed it on first listen (but not TOO much if you know what I mean - I sometimes find an album you fall in love with straightaway loses its shine very quickly). I was expecting it to be a sprawling crazy epic, so the idea of a few tracks that later turn out to be filler weirdly doesn't bother me that much. Love the one with George Clinton.The skits are lame.

i think the peaks are really high, but there arent all that many of them. album is too long too. id have cut it down quite a bit. big boi is great on all of it though.

if you dont need your hip hop state of the art, dont sleep on fashawn -
http://www.amazon.com/Boy-Meets-World-Fashawn/dp/B002PZAKKI

STN
07-07-2010, 11:31 AM
if you dont need your hip hop state of the art, dont sleep on fashawn -
http://www.amazon.com/Boy-Meets-World-Fashawn/dp/B002PZAKKI

Thanks - I don't quite know what you mean by this. Is it that Fashawn is good but not groundbreaking?

gumdrops
07-07-2010, 11:34 AM
yep exactly.

Corpsey
07-07-2010, 01:11 PM
Ric Flair is hard as fuck.











Shame about the tits, though.

;)

shiels
07-07-2010, 05:01 PM
new big boi album is a good one, though after listening to it more, i think its more a case of about 4-5 outstanding songs, the rest consistent but not really that remarkable. could be wrong though, need to spend a bit more time with it.

Haven't listened yet but looking forward to it. Shutterbug has to be tune of 2010 so far..

cobretti
08-07-2010, 10:37 AM
Just noticed that a couple of the bonus tracks on Big Boi's album have André 3000 guesting on them, I guess Jive must have reached an agreement. The second of the two (with Sleepy Brown too) has a synth line bearing a serious resemblance to one of Silkie's tracks from City Limits.

gumdrops
08-07-2010, 11:09 AM
something about dre3000s programming has become quite stiff i think, from listening to you aint no dj and lookin for ya. that time lagged/stuttering drum fill on lookin for ya is meant to be a bit off i know but it just sounds a bit wrong to me :slanted:

paolo
09-07-2010, 01:09 PM
allow me to merk your trite selections with this:
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This one's my favourite. I've paid very little attention to hip hop this year

petergunn
13-07-2010, 07:33 AM
i realize that Swizz Beats has been making this same beat ("on to the next one") for the last 4 years or so... always the same bpm and rhythmic feel... catchy, tho...

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samples Justice (again!)...

outraygeous
13-07-2010, 08:52 AM
homeboy sandman

petergunn
15-07-2010, 07:38 PM
homeboy sandman

here's a clip of him freestyling on grime off the top of his head on my radio show two years ago...

http://www.divshare.com/download/12010715-26c

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FairiesWearBoots
15-07-2010, 09:32 PM
no disrespect but all these rappers sound like imitations, there is nothing new here??

to me it feels like hip hop in '10 is just a marketing exercise, or straight bragging

I defy somebody to show me someting new

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

FairiesWearBoots
15-07-2010, 09:35 PM
i realize that Swizz Beats has been making this same beat ("on to the next one") for the last 4 years or so... always the same bpm and rhythmic feel... catchy, tho...

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samples Justice (again!)...

I agree with this, formulaic . . .

maybe we shouldnt be surprised when someone makes money from a well, they will keep returning until is dry, human nature I guess

hint
16-07-2010, 03:07 PM
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http://hulkshare.com/31xu5ddy35f3

outraygeous
19-07-2010, 03:35 PM
here's a clip of him freestyling on grime off the top of his head on my radio show two years ago...

http://www.divshare.com/download/12010715-26c

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big up yourself!

slackk
19-07-2010, 07:26 PM
Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All, anyone?
http://oddfuture.com

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This is his mixtape;
http://www.mediafire.com/?01jceutzo2d2nrb

There are more from his crew on the site.

Qwon
21-07-2010, 03:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzAS8tnxx2o
It's been one of my favourites this year. From his album Marcberg.

CrowleyHead
21-07-2010, 11:14 PM
Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All, anyone?
http://oddfuture.com

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This is his mixtape;
http://www.mediafire.com/?01jceutzo2d2nrb

There are more from his crew on the site.

Odd Future are the truth.

Corpsey
21-07-2010, 11:20 PM
Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All, anyone?
http://oddfuture.com

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This is his mixtape;
http://www.mediafire.com/?01jceutzo2d2nrb

There are more from his crew on the site.

woahhh this is fucking great

Corpsey
21-07-2010, 11:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHKxFEO3d88&feature=player_embedded

lolll ''hot ass beat clap''

cheers slackk for the heads up.

whats the story with these guys?

luka
22-07-2010, 10:02 AM
yeah theyre good thats a good find....

unknown soulja
22-07-2010, 12:33 PM
Had this one on repeat recently:
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Corpsey
22-07-2010, 06:19 PM
That Earl album's so big


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39BwYLiKHDA

outraygeous
26-07-2010, 10:07 AM
Tyler The Creator is my new fave rapper

CrowleyHead
26-07-2010, 01:50 PM
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Sooooo good.

slackk
27-07-2010, 10:31 AM
Another Odd Future affiliate;

http://www.hughthemc.com/

This lot are too fucking much right.

Tony Flavourmore
27-07-2010, 11:09 AM
That Earl album's so big


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39BwYLiKHDA



good call, this is bangin'

Immryr
29-07-2010, 10:40 PM
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petergunn
30-07-2010, 08:48 AM
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again, swizz is the idiot savant of club beats...

BareBones
30-07-2010, 10:48 AM
these odd future guys are fucking great! can't stop listening to them. cheers for the heads up slackk.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSRPYqeuu2Q

Corpsey
07-08-2010, 05:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWe26D0nDMw&feature=player_embedded

big up dom for this (i dunno if he reads dissensus)

Corpsey
09-08-2010, 01:07 AM
This mixtape by ^ whiz khalifah is great

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/04/15/alg_album_wiz_kush_oj.jpg

might be old news i dunno...

Still playing that Earl album, it really is incredible.

Immryr
10-08-2010, 11:23 AM
yeah orange juice and kush is well good. wiz khalifa is the thinnest boss you've heard thus far.

outraygeous
10-08-2010, 12:37 PM
you guys prefer Earl Sweatshirt over Tyler the Creator?

Im going Tyler all the way

UFO over easy
10-08-2010, 11:26 PM
im really slow, only just realised its the guy that writes cocaine blunts who does the hip hop coverage in the wire

suddenly the lil b and odd future features don't seem so out of the blue

mistersloane
10-08-2010, 11:40 PM
you guys prefer Earl Sweatshirt over Tyler the Creator?

Im going Tyler all the way

Nah man Earl's got the ill flow and sick voice, and the beats. Not feeling the Tyler thing as much.

mistersloane
10-08-2010, 11:46 PM
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Corpsey
11-08-2010, 02:36 AM
That cocaine blunts blog is amazing, only problem is I'm still up at half 3 now reading it :confused:

This isn't from 2010, found on my c.b travels. A homophobic tribe called quest tune that was going to be on 'low end theory' but for some reason (ahem) didn't make it...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8SCqg9Rq0

Crazy to hear this, clashes massively with what I think of ATCQ as representing...

P.S. I haven't given 'Bastard' a proper listen yet but I think Tyler and Earl are neck and neck on 'Couch'. Tyler has that line about putting your bitch in a bath of cum and throwing a shark in it, though. (Interesting, looking at the Tribe thing - I sort of accept the constant rape chat on 'Earl'. But it doesn't come out of the blue to me, it comes ready formed with that crew or something. Seems more cartoonish than that Tribe thing too... didn't mean to compare the two just realised while re-editing this reply...)

Love the production on Earl - Stapleton, Earl, Couch... Especially the woozy druggy beats (funny that Tyler doesn't smoke weed apparently). I.E.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83xlbauTpOA

that organ that comes in is slightly demented, works though

outraygeous
11-08-2010, 10:41 AM
Tyler modern day RZA?

luka
12-08-2010, 12:38 AM
brand nubian feature on that gay bashing song too, although they already have a name for that anyway so its not as shocking i suppose.

Corpsey
12-08-2010, 12:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZn15Horxtg&feature=related

lollll @ this jay-z/any other popular rapper working for the illluminati thing.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1948


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBKDZhu-EZw&feature=related

2:05 into this video AHAHAHA

also: I never noticed the masonic symbols they used in that episode of the simpsons where they parodied the masons... omg its a conspiracy.

rubberdingyrapids
15-08-2010, 10:07 PM
http://i35.tinypic.com/juvkoi.png

luka
15-08-2010, 10:51 PM
hahahaahaha

rubberdingyrapids
17-08-2010, 02:54 PM
im so late but i have really gotten into gucci mane. only liked a few things of his before but im totally sold on him now. i feel like theres a whole load of southern rap ive missed out as a result. was really into crunk and the south around 04/05 but lost interest a bit after. the remix of big boi's shine blockas with gucci is also really good.

Corpsey
19-08-2010, 06:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrHKlZhQZus


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQIZjadG4bg

have been listening to these two constantly, via cocaine blunts recommendation. I'm not sure I even like gucci mane that much as a rapper but I like these two tunes. going to definitely check out more gucci mane stuff on the off chance.

p.s. DJ Drama and DJ Holiday both need to die horribly.

p.p.s. the cocaine blunts guy has done an article on Tyler + oddfuture in the new Wire magazine (I wish the rest of the magazine catered to my tastes).

rubberdingyrapids
19-08-2010, 09:06 PM
noz knows his stuff inside out. ive found im into hip hop quite a bit again lately, partly just cos i think i need songs after hearing so much funky/dubstep etc and well i miss rapping (yeah theres grime but its not the same). still think gucci should be dressed something like slick rick, bishop don juan and eric b and rakim circa paid in full rather than the boring standard rapper wear he has though. he is called GUCCI mane after all.

Corpsey
19-08-2010, 10:29 PM
Yeah I know what you mean. I've had some great nights this year dancing to house and other dance genres but I do miss the personality that vocalists/mcs bring to things. Listening to instrumental music all the time gets a bit dull. The whole world around hip-hop music is really funny/disturbing also (see: http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/ )

Corpsey
19-08-2010, 10:30 PM
oh and also I agree about the clothes thing

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii298/RAMS3Y/MaL3%203mC33s/3rIc%20B%20aNd%20rAkIm/RAKIM4.jpg

:cool:

stephenk
20-08-2010, 03:22 AM
you don't think his jewelry selection is outlandish enough?

http://c.complex.com/assets/images/blog_galleries/2010-04/Gucci/guccichain_bart1.jpg

http://c.complex.com/assets/images/blog_galleries/2010-04/Gucci/guccichain_odie1.jpg

http://duffyrap.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Gucci-Mane-south-park-chain.jpg

not sold on oddfuture and even less on lil b...the production can be cool but i love gucci (or the dearly departed max b, or cam'ron, etc. - anyone who's ruled it for a year or two in the last decade) because he doesn't sound like he's trying hard (or at all) to be clever...whereas this west coast post-hyphy thing is kinda too considered. like there's too much sitting around all day smoking weed trying to out-goof-your-friends involved, too little free association. it's not outsized enough - maybe kind of juvenile, which i realize is the point.

however i can definitely applaud the return of gorey lyrics to rap.

slackk
20-08-2010, 10:12 AM
I miss Max B.

Corpsey
20-08-2010, 11:25 AM
Most Lil B stuff I've heard doesn't do much for me. Only this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LwCzQjZAvg

I'm so out of touch I don't even know who Max B is. Something to do with Dipset?

Recommendations?

This is good


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXQLnrZX9oU&feature=related

stephenk
20-08-2010, 04:35 PM
yeah max b's wikipedia is pretty informative, if you're interested...but yeah - former dipset associate, although he's off on his own weird persona with its own slang and he has his own crew and everything.

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oh and mixtapes, i'm still trying to find the best one, as is usually the case. wavey off that grand cru cuts most tracks off but it's long and has a decent overview of stuff that's on other mixtapes. wavie crockett, quarantine wave...

Corpsey
20-08-2010, 11:53 PM
cheers!

i will investigate

i looked at his wikipedia page earlier - 75 years, eh? :eek:

stephenk
21-08-2010, 12:17 AM
yeah. and he's sadly not the kind of "celebrity" where he would be released prematurely via his big connections. looks pretty grave.

Corpsey
22-08-2010, 12:48 AM
link to Hip Hop 09 thread for ease of reference

http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?9653-Hip-Hop-09

Corpsey
22-08-2010, 11:23 PM
Benji B just played this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HoWBnJKf4o&feature=search

pretty big, haven't listened to the Roots in a long time.

slackk
23-08-2010, 09:40 AM
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mixtape; http://www.limelinx.com/files/b6d65c8756997691a5d7bf1573036e13

slackk
23-08-2010, 10:02 AM
Oh yeah, "Orange Juice" by Earl;
http://usershare.net/ujh91egoih33

Too much. Quite sure it's that Gucci Mane Lemonade beat?

Also;

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/4908018724_0ce750d96d.jpg
http://limelinx.com/files/a4f93588af1cb4aae48409a1f4059690

Get the Mike G tape, too;
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_uc60EJlaeww/S8LHTpnn07I/AAAAAAAAA7U/j2d7-E5NGdc/s1600/ALI+Cover.jpg
http://oddfuture.tumblr.com/post/518876817/mike-g-ali

hint
23-08-2010, 11:59 AM
Oh yeah, "Orange Juice" by Earl;
http://usershare.net/ujh91egoih33

Too much. Quite sure it's that Gucci Mane Lemonade beat?


Yeah - "Lemonade" is such a great beat.
Wolf Gang are monsters.

rubberdingyrapids
24-08-2010, 07:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQBKkqBvtdM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZpTwZJ4_-Y&feature=related

new capone n noreaga.
ive now become one of these people that gets excited about old school rappers making comebacks.
well as long as its not krs or big daddy kane cos you kinda know how those are gonna go.
but i still love nore lol.

Corpsey
26-08-2010, 02:21 PM
coincidentally, after me asking what the best Max B tunes are to listen to... saw this best of max b comp via cocaineblunts (again)

http://realniggatumblr.tumblr.com/post/1010586078/at-folks-request-i-compiled-a-best-of-max-b-all

Corpsey
26-08-2010, 11:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsmqrk7Wgsk&ob=av2e


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LtDDT-zUVA

slackk
31-08-2010, 08:44 PM
more Odd Future

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7z5ilsGa71qb8q0zo1_500.jpg

http://limelinx.com/files/19c6c0722c3bf0d8429899da2775d896

stephenk
01-09-2010, 06:19 PM
http://www.datpiff.com/Soulja_Boy_and_Lil_B_Pretty_Boy_Millionaires_sou.m 133241.html

this is a very promising pairup

soulja boy is so underrated

cobretti
03-09-2010, 01:57 PM
Big Boi is playing a gig at Glasgow's o2 Academy on November 3rd. (http://www.o2academyglasgow.co.uk/event/18984/big-boi-tickets) I suspect he'll be doing gigs elsewhere so check your local venues' websites to see if there's anything near you. I for one can't wait, hopefully it'll be better than the recent Wu Tang gig.

cushtilla
16-09-2010, 04:07 AM
despite being derivative, its a banger.....

BLACK MILK - DEADLY MEDLEY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOMldtCNyZ0

outraygeous
16-09-2010, 01:58 PM
Danny Brown is hot right now


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNO5Hhzv1Lo

hint
16-09-2010, 02:59 PM
Yeah - that Danny Brown is fantastic.

continuum
16-09-2010, 05:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGqVWwdlzbA

CrowleyHead
18-09-2010, 10:10 PM
Anybody else here feeling Main Attrakionz? Squadda B's making some beats that really reach for this haunted vibe. Kinda advanced, but still really rooted in hip-hop.

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baboon2004
19-09-2010, 12:39 AM
i'd like to like this way more than I actually do like it. it's good, but there's something missing, and that something is probably drums, for the most part.

CrowleyHead
19-09-2010, 01:27 AM
There's definitely a lack of typical "HIT YOU" hip-hop drums. But I think he purposely lacks that in order to sound unique. It took me a while to get used to it too, so I don't blame you.

Corpsey
19-09-2010, 10:00 PM
Quite feeling some of those Main Attrakionz tunes, downloaded this 'Cloud Rap' mixtape earlier with quite a few M.A tunes, along with some Lil B, Odd future and others:

http://spaceagehustle.tumblr.com/page/2

1. Lil B- B.O.R. (Birth of Rap) (prod. by Tre G)

2. Lil B- I’m God (prod. by Clams Casino)

3. Main Attrakionz- Legion of Doom (prod. by Squadda B)

4. Main Attrakionz- Rewind (Priceless) (prod. by Squadda B)

5. G-Side- Back 2 the Future (prod. by R. Dot)

6. Inkrowd- Southern Funk (prod. by Inkrowd)

7. Havoc- Always Have a Choice (prod. by Clams Casino)

8. Main Attrakionz- I’m Back On Deck (prod. by Squadda B)

9. MondreM.A.N.- A Man’s Life (prod. by Squadda B)

10. Main Attrakionz- New World (prod. by Squadda B)

11. Main Attrakionz- Still the Legion (prod. by Squadda B)

12. G-Side ft. Chris Lee- Money in the Sky (prod. by Basmo Beats)

13. Lowe ft. Clova- Flinstones (prod. by Rod “JR” Lumpkin)

14. G-Side ft. Jhi-Ali and Geographer- Impossible (prod. by Block Beattaz)

15. Squadda B- MP3 Racked Up (prod. by Squadda B)

16. Odd Future- Up (Screwed and Chopped by Mike G)

Corpsey
25-09-2010, 12:48 PM
Anybody else here feeling Main Attrakionz? Squadda B's making some beats that really reach for this haunted vibe. Kinda advanced, but still really rooted in hip-hop.

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Really feeling this one. Does it use the same sample source as Lil B's 'I'm God'?

CrowleyHead
26-09-2010, 12:33 PM
Really feeling this one. Does it use the same sample source as Lil B's 'I'm God'?

Yep, it's an Imogen Heap record. Which B's used at least 4-5 times himself now (probably even more).

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And, just for reference...

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atoga
27-09-2010, 02:53 AM
kmt

continuum
27-09-2010, 09:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zyx0xkVc_c

hint
30-09-2010, 04:11 PM
Young Gully - "The Grant Station Project" on Bandcamp, a tribute to Oscar Grant:
http://younggullyyh.bandcamp.com/album/the-grant-station-project

http://bandcamp.com/files/64/42/64428008-1.jpg (http://bandcamp.com/files/64/42/64428008-1.jpg)

Young Gully is great

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Corpsey
01-10-2010, 03:12 PM
Love that Danny Brown 'Hybrid' album, just listened to it for the first time. Raw.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjpFFOZrONE

Sometimes his voice/delivery jars me and sometimes I think it's brilliant.

Corpsey
04-10-2010, 10:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J86GAN2zx10

This is a big tune.

Interesting article on him by noz here http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/interviews/id.1605/title.waka-flocka-flame-gangsta-rap-made-me-do-it

It's funny, this is the kind of rap music I would probably have slagged off a few years ago for not being lyrical enough etc... I was listening to 50 Cent 'Get Rich or Die Tryin'' last night, almost every hook is catchy and almost every beat is banging but the lyrics are pretty much air. When I think about it this is pretty much the case with 'Doggystyle' too.

Corpsey
04-10-2010, 11:18 PM
best young jeezy stuff, anyone?

urbanite
04-10-2010, 11:38 PM
stumbled across this while looking for more of this cloud rap stuff, pretty darned impressive, love the change ups...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fse8RgXVOvw

Dane
05-10-2010, 11:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7l9mxwN7nI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ym0T0JZccc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLiqZSp303Q

DJ PIMP
06-10-2010, 12:47 AM
stumbled across this while looking for more of this cloud rap stuff, pretty darned impressive, love the change ups...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fse8RgXVOvw

lovely beat...

the scene in vid where they're dancing in the 7-11, classic.

Corpsey
06-10-2010, 12:59 AM
http://www.rosenbergradio.com/podcasts/

These podcasts feature some really good interviews by Paul Rosenberg and Cipha Sounds of people like Fat Joe, Method Man, Redman, Busta Rhymes, Clipse, Large Professor etc. Loads of mad stories about Biggie, Big Pun, Keith Murray beating up Prodigy in the tunnel etc.

Esp recommend http://www.rosenbergradio.com/2008/07/28/greatest-juan-ep-ever/ this with Fat Joe

and Method Man/Redman/Busta Rhymes AND Noreaga.

N.B. must be a hip-hop nerd to enjoy these.

hint
06-10-2010, 01:04 PM
There's a whole mixtape of Droop-E on Sade-related beats.
It's well worth grabbing.

CrowleyHead
07-10-2010, 02:55 PM
Danny Brown is a Super-Hero.

He sounds like Charlie Brown from L.O.N.S. on this one. If Dinco and Busta had been obsessed with coke in '93.

baboon2004
07-10-2010, 10:44 PM
Young Gully is great

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wow, even considering that rhyming over one of hip-hop's greatest beats can never hurt, he got an amazing flow - anything else to recommend?

baboon2004
11-10-2010, 11:59 AM
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OK, this is old, but still, a beautiful instrumental. Heard it on the cloud rap tape, and it fits in sublimely.

Edit: And crowleyhead, you were 100% right, that stuff grows on you - loving Main Attrakionz now. Go as far to say it's the freshest thing I've heard this year...

CrowleyHead
12-10-2010, 03:52 AM
Yep. First time I heard them, I was like "... Eh, what is this? Sounds weird..."

Next month later, I was dancing around to "Back On Deck" like a damn fool.

Also, Squadda's solo track on that mixtape, "MP3 Racked Up"? SO GOOD. Like, hyper depressive drug rap without being chopped and screwed. Weird as this sounds, I get Maddslinky vibes from that track.

luka
12-10-2010, 05:40 AM
no one can really shine on a track with pep love

Corpsey
12-10-2010, 06:49 PM
http://adventoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/Waka-Flocka-Flockaveli.jpg

Anybody listened to this? Lyrically terrible and almost every track sounds near-identical but I do quite like the hyper-aggressiveness of the production. It's basically a constant barrage of 808s gunshots and rattling hi hats. Not really sure if its something I could listen to the whole way through, though.

Was going to ask - is this production style related to/the same thing as Hyphy? And 'Trap Rap' = a type of rap music or just referring to the slang Gucci etal use?

stephenk
13-10-2010, 03:12 AM
oh man, i can definitely listen to that waka all the way through...in fact it's become my new cooking soundtrack...it's part of that grand tradition of rambunctious fighting-in-the-club southern rap. it isn't clever or anything, but that's not the point.

hyphy is (err, was?) different, sparser. i stopped paying much attention to it when i stopped living on the west coast, but i always think of this one as a hallmark of the style.

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Corpsey
13-10-2010, 04:09 AM
I like that ^

I've had ''Hard In The Paint'' in my head all day. I need to hear this album LOUD.

baboon2004
13-10-2010, 02:55 PM
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OK, this is old, but still, a beautiful instrumental. Heard it on the cloud rap tape, and it fits in sublimely.



Bloody hell, it's lifted wholesale from Morcheeba. A Dido moment. When did it become okay to sample huge chunks of songs again, btw?

hint
25-10-2010, 05:04 PM
Enjoying this Hit Boy beat:

http://tinyurl.com/SFCBBackNForth

luka
05-11-2010, 04:32 AM
i like black milk. does anyone else like his beats? his album dropped this year. one with danny brown.

outraygeous
05-11-2010, 09:08 AM
Black Milk is nice, his beats have always been fire but now his rap game has improved alot

outraygeous
05-11-2010, 09:08 AM
Oh yeah, whos going odd future tonight?

grave
05-11-2010, 09:18 AM
It's sold out :(

If anyone has a spare ticket, I'd happily take it.

baboon2004
05-11-2010, 09:57 AM
i like black milk. does anyone else like his beats? his album dropped this year. one with danny brown.

he's fecking amazing - I'm sure there must have been a thread/partial thread on him here somewhere. 'Shut It Down' is one of my favourite hip hop tracks of the decade. I prefer him to Dilla, though obviously that's a minority opinion.

Must get that new album....

BareBones
05-11-2010, 10:09 AM
so gutted about that OFWGKTA show tonight. only found about it a couple of days ago. can't remember the last time i wanted to go to a gig so much.

grave
05-11-2010, 10:23 AM
I'm pretty sure it only went on sale 2 days ago, I just happened to see the flyer yesterday when it was too late. The Drop is a tiny venue as well, so you probably won't get to see them somewhere like that again if they blow up (as I imagine they will)

The fact it's under one of my local pubs make me feel as though I have a right to go regardless of whether or not it's sold out.

BareBones
08-11-2010, 01:37 PM
so did anyone go to odd future? slackk?

cobretti
08-11-2010, 11:17 PM
Did anyone else make it to one of Big Boi's shows last week? I know Paolo was at the Glasgow gig. They had only sold about 150 tickets so it was moved to the bar upstairs in the Academy, which in my opinion made for a far superior gig. The sound wasn't perfect but Big Boi didn't miss a beat and you could make out most of the lyrics. I'd say the show was about half Outkast classics and half solo material, he played Shine Blockas, For Yo Sorrows, General Patton, Shutterbugg, Daddy Fat Sax, You Ain't No DJ.... Pretty much all of Sir Lucious Left Foot to be honest. He also performed Kryptonite with C Bone, who was the hype man for the evening, and also did a couple of his own tracks which were pretty lame compared to the onslaught of Outkast material at the beginning and the constant stream of bangers from Big Boi's album.

Great gig though, really glad I went.

paolo
09-11-2010, 09:08 AM
Yeah I had fun, sound was a bit weak but the show was good. I wasn't sure if BB would be able to do justice to either his own or Outkast's material live because there's usually other MCs involved (and Andre 3000 with Outkast stuff obviously) but he just about managed it.

outraygeous
12-11-2010, 03:37 PM
My mate went. Apparently it was mostly them shouting over their tunes and starting mosh pits.

Yeah I was there, sets from XL man and I think Jamie XX but i dont know his boat.

Anyway yeah they pretty much just rapped over the vocals of their tracks.

The mosh pits were mad, they jumped in and had a shove. Best show ive seen all year, but i aint seen many.

And for i think their 3rd or 4th live show ever they have their game down tight.

pantha
14-11-2010, 11:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2iZOB-zcUQ&feature=related
:cool:

luka
16-11-2010, 08:22 AM
this is the biggest hip hop record in australia right now. please dont groan and dismiss this, its actually real hard... the video is nice too. its by a lebanese australian guy called raed. look out from him. first hiphop from australia to actually sound good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddwmcnLJYks

outraygeous
16-11-2010, 12:25 PM
this is the biggest hip hop record in australia right now. please dont groan and dismiss this, its actually real hard... the video is nice too. its by a lebanese australian guy called raed. look out from him. first hiphop from australia to actually sound good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddwmcnLJYks

Banger

tom lea
16-11-2010, 12:26 PM
me and some friends will be playing hiphop and rnb from 9pm-3am at the nest, in Dalston (bout five mins from the alibi). Velour is Hyetal and Julio Bashmore, you probably know who DJ Tearjerker is. or maybe not.

the evening's gonna start with Robin from Tri Angle doing a DJ Screw tribute set.

http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/1743/sobonesbig.jpg

outraygeous
16-11-2010, 12:39 PM
Play some B.O.B

was at a party on sunday and the hipsters loved it!

When Hard in the paint came on and I started moshing, they didn't appreciate that.

DJ TIPS

alex
25-11-2010, 05:38 PM
edit working now thnx

Corpsey
27-11-2010, 04:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XL84zQZ1nw

Alex Nut played this last night. Big boy kick drum. Hot ass beat clap.

edit: also, this Main Attrakionz beat is great imo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXZU_Pfk3Nk

outraygeous
28-11-2010, 02:24 PM
wow that really is a hot ass beat clap

if dave chappelle rapped, this is what he would sound like


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzfmz2_yi94

baboon2004
29-11-2010, 09:26 AM
this is the biggest hip hop record in australia right now. please dont groan and dismiss this, its actually real hard... the video is nice too. its by a lebanese australian guy called raed. look out from him. first hiphop from australia to actually sound good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddwmcnLJYks

I thought you were being serious. Did yous ee this?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOkyAve7TUk&feature=related

BareBones
29-11-2010, 12:53 PM
more precocious preteen biznis, this is hype


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipc9rzqX_Jg

PS loooooool @ that raed video

Corpsey
02-12-2010, 03:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrJPOFJmZ0U

courtesy of Noz (again). As on the Waka album, drum hits and ad-libs drop in and out (and a siren bellows and a machine gun rattles) to create this sense of ''DANGER'' and delirious aggression. These little moments of silence creating multiple drops...

This style of production in which you get a snare/clap on its own rapping out a sort of martial beat before a big 808 comes stomping in - where does it come from ('trap' rap/hyphy maybe?)? Similar effect on Beyonce's 'Videophone'... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sif8ci7Hv6w

Sick Boy
02-12-2010, 05:46 PM
I'm excited about this guy right now. His album Trunk Muzik 0-60 is fantastic. He's getting the co-sign from everyone right now from Big Boi to Eminem.

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continuum
02-12-2010, 06:12 PM
^ Tea Party crap

Sick Boy
02-12-2010, 09:39 PM
^ Tea Party crap

Tea Party?

As in the radio-friendly Canadian alt-rock band, the conservative political movement, or the afternoon social gathering hosted by the Mad Hatter? I'm having trouble finding any connection between all three and that video.

luka
02-12-2010, 10:29 PM
ilx have been going on about him for a long time. they're obsessed with him. i dont like him much and i especially dont like that song or video. that lloyd banks corpsey put up is amazing though.

continuum
03-12-2010, 05:42 PM
Tea Party?

As in the radio-friendly Canadian alt-rock band, the conservative political movement, or the afternoon social gathering hosted by the Mad Hatter? I'm having trouble finding any connection between all three and that video.

the conservative political movement. mainly because that video stinks of the deep south which we've all had enough of for the time being. let some other people have a go.

i'm feeling this lil b tune pantha posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2iZOB-zcUQ

CrowleyHead
03-12-2010, 09:30 PM
Yela is definitely NOT my favorite rapper out at the moment. I like him in small doses, but I'm certainly finding myself getting impatient with him... I think he's really competent, but I just don't see him blowing people away or anything.

Not to encourage white on white crime, but I think Roach Gigz is a much better rapper with only 1/5th of the hype.

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Sick Boy
04-12-2010, 12:35 AM
lol conservative? I guess as much as a half-native previously homeless skater bum-turned-rapper can be conservative.

What's everyone's thoughts on this Odd Future shit? They are all affiliated with the Flying Lotus/Low End Theory scene going on in LA and they seem to be kind of carrying Def Jux's torch now they went under. I definitely can get down with some of their producers, but sometimes when MC's get weird they get a little too weird and start spitting bullshit. This track is a perfect example:

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Beat is sick, flow is sick, the whole vibe is sick, but what the FUCK is this guy rapping about?

lol @ "my dick is having guts for lunch" though

Sick Boy
04-12-2010, 12:37 AM
Also I'm feeling that Roach Gigz guy, but Yela is way more original.

Corpsey
04-12-2010, 01:01 AM
There's been a lot of OF hype in this thread. I still haven't got round to listening to ''Bastard'' properly, having preferred the Earl album since I first heard it. Earl is the best rapper I've heard from the clique, Tyler obviously a close second. I haven't liked a lot of stuff by them (''Sandwitches'' for example didn't make much of an impression on me) but there have been some very strong highlights e.g.:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rei4oRZ1_bI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83xlbauTpOA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39BwYLiKHDA&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvWIaFZqiWk&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YH28RhTowU

My favourite OF stuff is the stuff with quite spaced-out/druggy beats.

Corpsey
04-12-2010, 01:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18zpDPdsP3Y

Danny Brown ''The Hybrid'' keeps throwing up gems every time it comes up on my mp3's shuffle.

CrowleyHead
04-12-2010, 02:32 PM
Also I'm feeling that Roach Gigz guy, but Yela is way more original.

Is he though? To me he's all the 'significant' parts of Eminem and Bubba Sparxx thrown in a blender. Maybe I'm being cynical, but the whole 'White Rapper from the trailer park of Alabama, raised on a mix of Skynyrd and Dirty South, torn between a love of his skateboard and rhymes' thing just seems really cheesy. Not to disservice his skills or songs.

Also, the moment I found out he was a professional skateboarder once, I predicted that he was a Heiro/Souls fan. Looked up like, two interviews, BAM! He's talking about '93 Til Infinity in EACH ONE. I'm annoyed more people play up his love of backpack rap than try to discern his taste in southern rap, because his taste in 'classic rap albums' has NO RELEVANCE to the music he makes.

luka
04-12-2010, 02:41 PM
i remember someone telling me SOM were on some famous skate video and that explains why so many people about my age who know nothing about hiphop love SOM. (more in AUS and NZ than england cos english people, thank god, dont play on skateboards.)

Sick Boy
04-12-2010, 05:12 PM
Is he though? To me he's all the 'significant' parts of Eminem and Bubba Sparxx thrown in a blender. Maybe I'm being cynical, but the whole 'White Rapper from the trailer park of Alabama, raised on a mix of Skynyrd and Dirty South, torn between a love of his skateboard and rhymes' thing just seems really cheesy. Not to disservice his skills or songs.

Also, the moment I found out he was a professional skateboarder once, I predicted that he was a Heiro/Souls fan. Looked up like, two interviews, BAM! He's talking about '93 Til Infinity in EACH ONE. I'm annoyed more people play up his love of backpack rap than try to discern his taste in southern rap, because his taste in 'classic rap albums' has NO RELEVANCE to the music he makes.

I'm not sure I really understand this assessment. I guess I can see the Eminem similarity, but only in that one track I posted. Eminem also tends to go for those sombre piano-led productions. Also Pop the Trunk has a touch of that horrorcore thing to it, and Eminem was all about that.* Flow-wise they couldn't be any different though, and... Bubba Sparxx? Nah man. It's a bit of a harsh review to reduce it down like you did, this is kind of the equivalent of listening to virtually any New York hip hop and being like "Black guy, grew up in the Bronx or Brooklyn, raised by a single drug-addicted mother, torn between love for his hood and leaving for better things." It is possible to be white and from a trailer park and still be an individual with something unique to say. I don't think he puts forth any kind of cheesy "torn between rhyming and skateboarding" narrative either. As far as I know he was skateboarding until he injured himself too many times, so figured he'd do rapping instead.

Re: classic rap. It's not a surprise you thought he'd be into Hieroglyphics because in my experience, ALL skateboarders are. That's what they listen to. In interviews he also frequently references Snoop Dogg, Three 6 Mafia, Devin The Dude, Outkast, Mystikal, UGK and Bone Thugz. In fact, in his CB interview he actually explicitly says: "The one thing about the South is that we never really favored the underground over mainstream." I mean, I agree that his taste in anything has no relevance to the quality of his music, but neither does generalized ideas about why music critics might like him. I certainly am not one of those critics, and I don't even really know jack shit about classic era hip hop.

So that doesn't really add up; but if you don't dig him, you don't dig him, and that's cool.

* Actually, if anything, that Odd Future shit we're talking about in this thread is WAY closer to (old) Eminem than Yela.

CrowleyHead
05-12-2010, 01:49 PM
But here's the thing as far as that goes... Yela's career seems built on selling his story. Every feature he gets, I re-learn about his single part-Native American mother, raising him while she was just a teen... etc. etc. It seems that who he is matters so much more than his rapping ability. And this happens every time Interscope gets a white rapper. Suddenly, their life is more important to me than their current singles. Except I'm not HERE to buy autobiographies, y'know? I generally prefer rappers where I know nothing of their life REALLY, and I have to judge them strictly by the music.

That said, I don't mind dude hopefully having hits and becoming a steady presence, because he is good! Just not somebody I care about in particular.

Also; I totally agree with you on the OF stuff.

baboon2004
05-12-2010, 03:59 PM
But here's the thing as far as that goes... Yela's career seems built on selling his story. Every feature he gets, I re-learn about his single part-Native American mother, raising him while she was just a teen... etc. etc. It seems that who he is matters so much more than his rapping ability.

Isn't this largely the media/larger cultural obsession with authenticity - every white rapper's 'authenticity credentials' are always going to be put under the microscope, whether they encourage it or not. Mayeb he's talking about it a lot, but chances are that's partly because he's been asked about it a thousand times before.

CrowleyHead
05-12-2010, 09:21 PM
That's certainly a fair point. I just think authenticity is immensely overrated and so far beyond anything. Like, when Tyler from Odd Future was on Shady 45 Radio, he mentioned he was from Compton. First time I've heard that, and that was about how in depth he was about it. It's so nice to know that nobody cares that a dude from Compton isn't a walking L.A. Rapper Cliche (THANK YOU, NIPSEY HUSSLE.)

baboon2004
05-12-2010, 09:46 PM
Oh sure, I agree that authenticity is a really problematic and over-subscribed-to concept.

outraygeous
05-12-2010, 10:15 PM
SWAG

just thought id add that.

oh, watched some videos about Lil b because he mentioned odd future in an interview. I dont like Lil b, there is something not right about the fellow in his raps. True, odd future are weird and I do like the raps of Necro but the calling yourself a bitch and a pretty bitch is all a bit much.

Id rather the way out there thats never gona happen raps than a guy whos obviously not gangster (re video when he gets boxed in the face) talking about how hes gona smash my girl and throw money at me

Sick Boy
06-12-2010, 12:19 AM
also once i compared earl to eminem i could just hear his influence everytime he mc'd i wish i hadn't done that lol

His and Eminem's flows are pretty much identical.

alex
06-12-2010, 10:36 AM
His and Eminem's flows are pretty much identical.

yea i think that's half the appeal

hint
06-12-2010, 01:12 PM
link to tyler on shady 45 radio please?

http://limelinx.com/files/86b9f7c82b83d9e50a7707c451cfd312

"Why you asking so many personal questions?"
"I'm interviewing y'all cats"
"I'm not a cat"

Corpsey
06-12-2010, 05:48 PM
What are the best websites/blogs for keeping up with hip-hop? I go on cocaine blunts, project covo forums that's pretty much it at the moment.

hint
06-12-2010, 06:05 PM
What are the best websites/blogs for keeping up with hip-hop? I go on cocaine blunts, project covo forums that's pretty much it at the moment.

Noz's Tumblin 'Erb gets the ball rolling on a lot of stuff (in certain circles).
http://tumblinerb.com/

DigitalDripped for a daily roundup of lowbitrate leaks etc.
http://digitaldripped.com/

Corpsey
06-12-2010, 06:22 PM
DigitalDripped for a daily roundup of lowbitrate leaks etc.
http://digitaldripped.com/

Cheers for this!

Tumblinerb is great, yes - I have discovered so much stuff through noz this year. Most recent thing is that Whoo Da Kid mixtape. This one is good, though like every other tune on the album is just about shooting people really lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zl_D-WkDAw

CrowleyHead
07-12-2010, 05:44 PM
oh, watched some videos about Lil b because he mentioned odd future in an interview. I dont like Lil b, there is something not right about the fellow in his raps. True, odd future are weird and I do like the raps of Necro but the calling yourself a bitch and a pretty bitch is all a bit much.



It's actually great. So many dudes were getting called gay for wearing skinny jeans and dressing in hipster apparel. B went all out and started calling himself a lesbian, and that he gets girls 'cause he looks like JK Rowling. GOLD.

baboon2004
07-12-2010, 08:28 PM
That is the weirdest thing I have heard in a while. But...true?

Didn't know Lil B was in that group The Pack (who did 'Vans' - 'got my vans on but they look like sneakers').

CrowleyHead
08-12-2010, 02:03 AM
Controversy sells. Truth be told, I think Lil B got just as many fans from "I'm God" as he did from a song like "I Look Like Jesus".

luka
10-12-2010, 12:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZTPbXXx2-I&feature=player_embedded#!

saw this on another forum....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjX48jiTlUI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYvg8i_wO2A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FdavKMQTXg&feature=related

alex
10-12-2010, 11:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA1LoYgYKUk&feature=player_embedded#

Corpsey
11-12-2010, 02:25 AM
Like that Meek Mill tune, the Dipset beat is crazy too.

Had a quick listen to the Lloyd Banks album ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.F.M._2_(The_Hunger_for_More) ) yesterday and its (to me) surprisingly quite good. I always thought Banks was just a a Craig David lookalike who fiddy took to parties to impress any British people that might be there, but he's actually more than a Craig David lookalike. This might be old news to everybody else in the world.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSZgS1ifxTs

this has got a great 50-ish hook (slurry singing), the beat is by Cardiak (who did ''Start it Up''). Cardiak did this one too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC9cMk7YheQ&feature=related which is also a great beat.

This is an absolute banger too, the hook is annoying though


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcXtHdAVcew

Corpsey
11-12-2010, 02:56 AM
Cardiak's done four tunes on that Meek Mill mixtape btw, they're all good.

this beat is monstrous


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32HnO_eJlDY

luka
11-12-2010, 03:59 AM
lloyd banks had hits the first time round too corpse. try im on fire and im so fly.

Corpsey
11-12-2010, 04:17 AM
will do luka

new Dr Dre - ''Kush'' feat. Snoop and Akon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuJDaOVz2qY

A bit underwhelmed by this at the moment but it might grow on me.

CrowleyHead
11-12-2010, 03:53 PM
Detox is probably going to be a lot of nothing.

That said, greatest Detox leak ever, one that they REALLY should've had as a single... T.I. did a great Dre verse. Dre seems to have the greatest chemistry with Libra MCs (Tip, Eminem, Snoop). He should consider getting Wayne to ghost for him some.

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Sick Boy
11-12-2010, 06:02 PM
will do luka

new Dr Dre - ''Kush'' feat. Snoop and Akon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuJDaOVz2qY

A bit underwhelmed by this at the moment but it might grow on me.

I don't think that tune is all that bad really. I'm more unsurprised than underwhelmed. It sounds a bit like a track that didn't make it onto Chronic 2001. Like so many tunes before it though, it is ruined by Akon.

I don't think at this point it is really possible for Detox to meet everyone's expectations.

baboon2004
11-12-2010, 11:22 PM
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this is amazing

edit- well pretty damn good

CrowleyHead
12-12-2010, 07:13 PM
I take it you got to Nas' verse when you realized it wasn't amazing.

baboon2004
12-12-2010, 11:36 PM
I take it you got to Nas' verse when you realized it wasn't amazing.

Yes, I think I spoke too soon. Slurry, woozy rappers seem to fit best over Dre's beats. Maybe. Whichever, Nas and Dre don't really go together. Ah yes, The Firm.

baboon2004
13-12-2010, 12:17 AM
http://rapgenius.com/lyrics/Earl-sweatshirt-ft-vince-staples/Epar - jusfound this when googling stuff about Odd Future. Bizarre idea that i'm not sure is good or bad, undertones of that 'English 50Cent' twitter thing.

CrowleyHead
13-12-2010, 01:43 PM
Yes, I think I spoke too soon. Slurry, woozy rappers seem to fit best over Dre's beats. Maybe. Whichever, Nas and Dre don't really go together. Ah yes, The Firm.

Actually I think back then Nas needed more Dre. "Phone Tap" is one of his top 10 records by far...

There was actually a rare version of that I only heard a couple of times as a child with verses from Foxy and Cormega as well. I'm going to have to probably commit crimes in order to find that damn thing...

Fucking Trackmasters. May they rot in hell for all eternity.

baboon2004
13-12-2010, 02:13 PM
Have to say I love It Was Written* (Dre track on there too, I know), so can't hate on the Trackmsters completely, though their track record isn't great.

* Apparently Lupe's favourite hip hop album of all time

CrowleyHead
13-12-2010, 11:45 PM
There's a movement of Rap to say that album is the greatest of all Nas' works. I'm not trying to be 'that guy' but, if you were to compare Illmatic to It Was Written, and then seriously conclude that the latter is the superior... I might believe you were possessed by devils or something.

luka
14-12-2010, 01:40 AM
its clearly an inferior album but i still love it. the first half is great. the second half is patchy. the first half i think is all trackmasters.

hint
14-12-2010, 12:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAJaYtn95YA

baboon2004
14-12-2010, 02:00 PM
There's a movement of Rap to say that album is the greatest of all Nas' works. I'm not trying to be 'that guy' but, if you were to compare Illmatic to It Was Written, and then seriously conclude that the latter is the superior... I might believe you were possessed by devils or something.

Definitely not as good as Illmatic, but way better than its reputation used to suggest (then again, I don't think Illmatic is quite as good as its reputation ,tho close). It hangs together as an album really nicely. Take It In Blood is one of my favourite Nas tracks.

Side one has a premier track too.

blacktulip
15-12-2010, 12:16 PM
Fuck 2010 - uzi does it:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=worJwVPnyZ4

CrowleyHead
15-12-2010, 04:25 PM
Yaaaaaaaaaaah. Get away from here with that Rock The Bells, Dust-Of-The-Kangol nonsense!

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I don't think anybody's talked about Meek Mill here, or maybe I missed it.

BareBones
15-12-2010, 05:52 PM
corpsey was going on about him but one page ago. know nothing about him but i really like the vids you guys are posting up

Corpsey
15-12-2010, 06:50 PM
He's alright, his voice/delivery jar me a bit. There are some great tunes on that mixtape I posted (I think?) most of them produced by Cardiak. Luka mentioned him first, I found those tunes through looking at Cardiak's discography (which I need to investigate more).

Noz's Top 50 rap singles of the year http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=6513 Some great tunes on there, personally I much prefer 'Hard in the Paint' to 'B.M.F'. 'Freeze Me' would have been in my top 3 too. 'Monster' isn't that great imo although Minaj's verse is actually worthy of hype. Loads of gems I hadn't heard, like:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjV7krmYobI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUEMo3enrQA

Corpsey
15-12-2010, 06:55 PM
Cam kills this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAW7t41LNx8 ('ya killin' me' feat. kid cudi + vado). ''Let a clip lift up his soul like trynna lift a sneak''. Vado ''Large On The Streets'' is good too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLiqZSp303Q

@kanyewest Just got Dipset verses for Christmas in Harlem! Eeeeevrybody on it!!!! Cam, Vado, Jimmy, Pusha, Big Sean, Cyhi, Teyana Taylor & Musiq

oh and btw that Meek Mill CrowleyHead posted has a crazy beat.

petergunn
15-12-2010, 07:51 PM
Cam kills this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAW7t41LNx8 ('ya killin' me' feat. kid cudi + vado). ''Let a clip lift up his soul like trynna lift a sneak''. Vado ''Large On The Streets'' is good too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLiqZSp303Q

@kanyewest Just got Dipset verses for Christmas in Harlem! Eeeeevrybody on it!!!! Cam, Vado, Jimmy, Pusha, Big Sean, Cyhi, Teyana Taylor & Musiq

oh and btw that Meek Mill CrowleyHead posted has a crazy beat.


Vado is nasty.... fittingly enuff, he's in the song this thread started w/... so, 2010 starts and ends the same...

re: Hard in the da paint, Lex Lugar is a beast...

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he has a grimey style to his production, reminds me of Maniac a little bit...

luka
16-12-2010, 12:29 AM
meek millz has been floating around youtibe for years. as a battle rapper.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0OgL_mrt28
thought he was someone that would stay on that level for ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3ayJP8DXS0

baboon2004
16-12-2010, 12:43 AM
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Sorry, had to post this in context of Nas discussion upthread. (Amlost) as good as anything on Illmatic, for me.

baboon2004
16-12-2010, 12:54 AM
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and this- after all, contains nas's most famous line. apologies, i know this hip hop '10.

CrowleyHead
16-12-2010, 01:20 PM
Here in NYC, Cam & Vado have slowly been churning out hits for only NYC to get excited about. Last year I thought Vado was just some guy, but this year, he's been battering shit.

Also; The Meek Mill record is produced by Jalil Beats. They've done a couple records together and they really seem to mesh.

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alex
16-12-2010, 07:46 PM
yo corpsey have you seen that vid on wstar hip hop where the guy pulls the gun in the classroom

Corpsey
16-12-2010, 08:00 PM
Nope, I should check that site more often though some of the videos on there are crazy.

Hip-Hops taken over my listening so much in the last year. Very unexpected. This forum has had a huge influence on me (and blogs/sites linked from it).

Benny B
16-12-2010, 08:02 PM
^that lil wayne tune posted above is great.

I just realised who Lil Wayne's croaky raspy voice reminds me of. Bob Dylan! (as he sounds nowadays, not the young Bob obviously). Is it just me?

baboon2004
16-12-2010, 09:23 PM
Can someone explain to me why Wayne gets so much hate? It's not as though I'm his greatest fan, but I love some of the stuff he's done...it's bemusing when I read so many negative thigns about him. Is it because he's successful? Because he's Southern? Because he embodies something that's offensive to the old skool hip hop fraternity?

That song is great, yeah. Not that into Nicky MInaj (that is her, right? it's probably someone else entirely now...), but she looks properly cute there...

Benny B
16-12-2010, 09:31 PM
He does put out some shit though, like that rock album that he did. When he's on form he's incredible though. I know its an old one but can I just take this opportunity to post this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2rY9X8NHMU

I'd be interested in pointers to more recent lil wayne stuff thats good. I can't keep up with it all.

alex
16-12-2010, 10:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7wZD1ewxB4

in response to the lugar one.

CrowleyHead
17-12-2010, 03:53 AM
^that lil wayne tune posted above is great.

I just realised who Lil Wayne's croaky raspy voice reminds me of. Bob Dylan! (as he sounds nowadays, not the young Bob obviously). Is it just me?

Best part of that revamped we are the world travesty was Wayne doing the Bob Dylan section in auto-tune. Sheer comedy brilliance.

Wayne's hate comes from the usual; NYC persons just think he's a dumb southerner. Outdated 'thug-rap' fans find the skinny jeans and the general 'weird' behavior unsettling. And of course, he's successful, which, GOD FORBID anyone should be.

People also like to accuse him as a drug addict, but that whole styrafoam cup thing was an act... For one reason. Do you think a dude with a serious drug addiction could REALLY function well enough to get on everyone and their mother's fucking records for a remix? Newsflash: Junkies are not productive.

... Hence Juelz Santana pretty much disappearing off the face of the earth.

Corpsey
17-12-2010, 05:04 AM
I'd like some lil wayne pointers too.

This is one of my favourites (from 2007 though) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj4TQBCBfas ''The Zoo'' ft. Mack Maine

luka
17-12-2010, 07:14 AM
whats santana addicted to? there hasnt been a lot of new wayne stuff cos hes been in prison. the taps flowing again now though. the things ive got that i like are dedication 1 and 2. i cant feel my face series and the drought series.

luka
17-12-2010, 07:29 AM
actually like new wayne thing, 6 foot 7 foot

petergunn
17-12-2010, 07:29 AM
whats santana addicted to?

cough syrup, supposedly...

in response to the Just Blaze video, Araab Muzik flashing serious hand skills on the MPC...

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fast forward to 5:30 and he does some crazy shit w/ the Dipset "salute" beat....

luka
17-12-2010, 07:32 AM
yeah hes nuts on that machine. lots of people have posted vidoes of him here, on various threads. i like the way his virtuoisty makes him look like some sick nerd whereas a really good drummer just looks super cool.

Corpsey
17-12-2010, 08:26 PM
That Araab Muzik video is ridiculous.

Just been on World Star Hip Hop trawling through a whole heap of rubbish. The Puff Daddy video at the top is hilarious, it's like he's some cross between Will Smith and Kanye West, minus any skills.


http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhvcBrV7t5mN82r7aJ


http://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh230KXFbcl67hF7rL

Couldn't find that much good stuff though.

CrowleyHead
18-12-2010, 03:06 PM
So, Soulja's album only sold 14K. I'm not surprised in some regards, because despite having a lot of strong singles, I have yet to see them all over the place, and Soulja's main strength is his singles.

Which is why this is weird. Because, the singles were actually fairly good.

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I think people grew out of him really quickly, which makes sense. But he actually did grow as a rapper and producer (I mean, we now know that Gudda Gudda is in fact the worst rapper ever. Crank Dat is poetry compared to that dude's rhymes), and while he's not going to be turning into a GOAT level person any time soon, I think he's ignored and underrated.

continuum
19-12-2010, 08:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyMuppKITis

Benny B
20-12-2010, 09:17 PM
This Gucci Mane mixtape is ace : http://www.datpiff.com/Dj_Three_Dogg_Gucci_Mane_The_Mailman.m171590.html

Only just started checking out datpiff.com, can't believe Ive never come across it before.

Tony Flavourmore
22-12-2010, 01:52 PM
Can someone explain to me why Wayne gets so much hate? It's not as though I'm his greatest fan, but I love some of the stuff he's done...it's bemusing when I read so many negative thigns about him. Is it because he's successful? Because he's Southern? Because he embodies something that's offensive to the old skool hip hop fraternity?



-materialistic subject matter
-half-arsed rhymes - most of the time they're 'off the head' which is not necessarily a bad thing, but it kind of cheapens his style. i don't care if he's been rhyming since he was 5 or whatever.
-auto tune
-pretending to play the guitar
-annoying trolly little voice
-high output, low quality


imo.

Corpsey
22-12-2010, 02:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4NgqsHH6WU&feature=player_embedded#!

Love this beat, sounds like vintage RZA. If you're into this 90's new york grimy style check out Roc Marciano 'Marcberg' album, self-produced and full of gritty goodness.

http://themartorialist.blogspot.com/2010/12/top-30-rap-singles-of-2010.html < good list of the best of 2010.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U0ZTiQdi58

alex
22-12-2010, 04:06 PM
-materialistic subject matter
-half-arsed rhymes - most of the time they're 'off the head' which is not necessarily a bad thing, but it kind of cheapens his style. i don't care if he's been rhyming since he was 5 or whatever.
-auto tune
-pretending to play the guitar
-annoying trolly little voice


these are all the reasons I dislike him, completely agree. Really, really, intensely dislike the lazy/blazay sort of attitude to rhyming, which has inturn spawned a slew of weak imitations, who have even WORSE content, and even WORSE rhymes.

'Outdated' thug rap>>>>>>>lil wayne. all day, every day

edit* obviously pop bootles/a milli and single are smashers, he has some gems, but definitely a lack of quality control.

alex
22-12-2010, 04:12 PM
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Am i missing something? This is one of the worst things ever. Killer is i watched this a few weeks back and was more obsessed with the video, i probably watched it on mute or something, but, yea, wtf?

baboon2004
22-12-2010, 04:23 PM
-materialistic subject matter
-half-arsed rhymes - most of the time they're 'off the head' which is not necessarily a bad thing, but it kind of cheapens his style. i don't care if he's been rhyming since he was 5 or whatever.
-auto tune
-pretending to play the guitar
-annoying trolly little voice
-high output, low quality


Agree with autotune - can't stand it in general. I'm not a huge defender of this, I just think his high points are pretty damn good, and the excessive hate seems as though it has some ulterior agenda to do with the South/his success (though I take your points). I like stuff like 'Receipt' and 'Mr Carter', and the old records with Cash Money. Always mystified by the acclaim for 'A Milli', but I think that's going to remain a mystery to me.

Edit: That Soulja Boy is pretty bad. Can someone also explain the appeal of Rick Ross to hardcore hip-hop heads (his and Soulja Boy's styles seem to have a bit in common), and how he got to number #1 in the (very good) Cocaine Blunts yearly chart? I kinda like him as a novelty thing, but I would've thought that he'd have been loathed by many.

Benny B
22-12-2010, 04:44 PM
I think if you're gonna dismiss anyone in hip hop with 'materialistic subject matter', then you're gonna miss out on a lot of good music.

Corpsey
22-12-2010, 05:50 PM
''B.M.F.'' is overrated I think, great Lex Luger beat but I don't rate Ross on it much at all. Don't really get the fuss, perhaps it will click at some point. On the American hip-hop forum I go on ''BMF'' was basically in everybody's top 10, usually near the top. ''Hard In The Paint'' (and the whole of Flockaveli basically, and ''Body Bags'' off Wooh Da Kid's ''Blackout'' mixtape) shows how great Waka is (despite his many failings) over those beats - he's got that ridiculously larger than life delivery which goes with how dramatic and energetic those trap beats are.

I seem to remember this being quite good, I haven't heard much Rick Ross though.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD9HmbKUHAs

petergunn
22-12-2010, 07:14 PM
Can someone also explain the appeal of Rick Ross

larry hoover!!!!!!!!

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people like BMF b/c Styles P is on it, so it feels more like "real hip hop"..............

CrowleyHead
22-12-2010, 10:34 PM
In the case of "BMF", it's a combination of things. On one hand, you've got Lex Luger expanding the formula he did with "Hard In Da Paint", except you have a rapper who's already had hit records, so people are more likely to put his single on radio.

On another hand, Ross has been developing this new gimmick thing where he starts screaming shit. After two albums of doing this mellow taunting thing, it's weird to see him suddenly acting like he's got something important to say. The big turn around was probably this record; (Which also has a Wayne verse that defends his hype to a marginal degree).

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I'm just saying, Ross pulling off his shades and hissing "LOOK INTO MY EYES, DO YOU SEE A C.O.!?!?" might've been the best line all year. More because his eyes are hideous than any greatness of the lyrics.

As far as how 'real hip-hop' people like Ross... He's been around in some form or another for 10 years or so (his first appearance is actually on a Erick Sermon album under the name Teflon), and when he didn't do a song like "BMF" on his last album, it was all this lushly produced, live instruments, 'soulful' stuff... Lot of Justice League.

Also; Cocaine Blunts isn't a 'pure' hip-hop blog. Noz tends to study trends/sub-movements in hip-hop. The guy collected like every "Crank Dat..." record in a mix once. I think he sees the importance of Ross jacking Waka's vibe and running with it in a commercial fashion.

Styles P's presence on that record is irrelevant. So far not ONE New Yorker can figure out what to do on a Lex Luger beat.

petergunn
23-12-2010, 12:47 AM
In the case of "BMF", it's a combination of things. On one hand, you've got Lex Luger expanding the formula he did with "Hard In Da Paint", except you have a rapper who's already had hit records, so people are more likely to put his single on radio.

Styles P's presence on that record is irrelevant. So far not ONE New Yorker can figure out what to do on a Lex Luger beat.

dipset do ok...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUGgZy12w0k&feature=related

i feel like MC Hammer is a just a better beat and song than BMF, (and has more of the energy of Hard in Da Paint), but it's just a matter of taste...

CrowleyHead
23-12-2010, 05:06 AM
I agree with you there. Essentially the two records are almost identical, and "MC Hammer" has both a better guest verse and performance by Ross. But "BMF" worked better. Maybe the beat change for the 2nd verse, maybe the chorus is catchier (Which is funny, considering not everyone knows who Big Meech is.)

Also, Dipset don't really get it. My problem with Fab, Jim and Styles hitting Lex Luger beats is that everyone else gets it; you hit the beat, and you proceed to batter your opponent senseless. It's why Gucci actually doesn't quite work on Lex beats. (OJ is the weird contradiction to this theory; maybe because his rhymes are always really hyper, so the beats provide a foil to his ridiculousness?) These guys swag around, trying to sound cool. This isn't about being cool. This is about destroying shit.

petergunn
23-12-2010, 06:49 AM
I agree with you there. Essentially the two records are almost identical, and "MC Hammer" has both a better guest verse and performance by Ross. But "BMF" worked better. Maybe the beat change for the 2nd verse, maybe the chorus is catchier (Which is funny, considering not everyone knows who Big Meech is.)

Also, Dipset don't really get it. My problem with Fab, Jim and Styles hitting Lex Luger beats is that everyone else gets it; you hit the beat, and you proceed to batter your opponent senseless. It's why Gucci actually doesn't quite work on Lex beats. (OJ is the weird contradiction to this theory; maybe because his rhymes are always really hyper, so the beats provide a foil to his ridiculousness?) These guys swag around, trying to sound cool. This isn't about being cool. This is about destroying shit.

WE IN THIS BITCH THROWING GANG SIGNS, MAYNNNNNG!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHV1wB8mB80

i get you mean, re: dipset, but maybe that is the genius of Rick Ross, in that he sounds both laid back AND strained on tracks like MC Hammer and BMF... he def does not attack the beat, he lives in the spaces... in that way, Ross's flow on those records is VERY similar to Dipset flows on tracks like Santana's town:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cb0h4Jlx70

in general, NY dudes are either too laid back or not comfortable enough at the generally slow tempos of down south stuff to really come off on it... there are some exceptions:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dE9Z9djd1U

luka
23-12-2010, 07:23 AM
if you dont know why lil wayne is good you dont like rappers. bascially. obviosuly not everything is good but....

Tony Flavourmore
23-12-2010, 07:25 AM
Agree with autotune - can't stand it in general. I'm not a huge defender of this, I just think his high points are pretty damn good, and the excessive hate seems as though it has some ulterior agenda to do with the South/his success (though I take your points). I like stuff like 'Receipt' and 'Mr Carter', and the old records with Cash Money. Always mystified by the acclaim for 'A Milli', but I think that's going to remain a mystery to me.




With an output as high as his - he's bound to hit some real high points and make some decent tracks
Has anyone seen this documentary, The Carter?
http://en.musicplayon.com/play?v=450769

It follows him around while he tours, before the release of the Carter 3.
He comes across like a spoilt child.

As for appreciating materialistic subject matter in hip hop, I realise there are many good songs made solely about this, I even rate some of the rappers highly, Cam'ron particularly.
But I think it's pretty played out in general.

edit: care to expand on that, luka?

paolo
23-12-2010, 07:39 AM
Lunice EP on LuckyMe is a beezer

http://www.rubadub.co.uk/?node_id=1.3&id=27536&SessionToken=f78b63da84eb5901f8493c3cac496278

CrowleyHead
23-12-2010, 02:08 PM
If you're going to dislike a rapper because he's a spoiled child, or because he's an exploitative leech, or etc. etc. You're going to run out of rappers to like really fast.

baboon2004
23-12-2010, 07:23 PM
Also; Cocaine Blunts isn't a 'pure' hip-hop blog. Noz tends to study trends/sub-movements in hip-hop. The guy collected like every "Crank Dat..." record in a mix once. I think he sees the importance of Ross jacking Waka's vibe and running with it in a commercial fashion.


Yeah, I really like the blog, it's turned me on to quite a lot of stuff. I was just surprised to see Rick Ross as number 1, though I definitely like the song - I would've expected Earl or Wiz Khalifa or something to be top.

outraygeous
31-12-2010, 09:50 AM
I think this has been an interesting year for hiphop. Quality of beats has def simplified and its more about the delivery.

Content rich raps have def given way to shock/delivery

Although people saying Odd Future do shock raps is a bit lame, isnt that just normal stuff people think about (maybe just me?)

Anyway, will be looking forward to see what happens with Tyler and OF and the rest of the new rappers and beat makers I have discovered this year.

Def hoping that Danny Brown can come over here.

Blackdown
07-01-2011, 10:57 AM
I dont know if this has been posted here before but it's amazing and amazingly shot too http://vimeo.com/13572647

HMGovt
07-01-2011, 06:17 PM
I dont know if this has been posted here before but it's amazing and amazingly shot too http://vimeo.com/13572647

I stand amazed. As a technique it could catch on, you cannot get any more analogue and lo-fi than that. Would it sound any good without being properly mic'd up and recorded tho?

gumdrops
20-01-2011, 09:34 AM
i like BMF a lot (though i dont know why styles p needs to be on it) but most of those songs on the top part of the cbrap list, i cant get into. i like rick ross a lot though. hes got a lot of presence. and he picks good beats. i wanna see how much more grandiose lex luger can get.

petergunn
20-01-2011, 10:39 AM
i wanna see how much more grandiose lex luger can get.

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gumdrops
20-01-2011, 10:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR0H0Jx6cYU

good to hear some new hip hop that has genuinely hard bass drops (or at least hard bass drops that i can actually make out on pc speakers)

Corpsey
20-01-2011, 03:30 PM
I don't really get the massive appeal of Rawwwwwwwwwwwwwwse, he strikes me as being a bit like somebody's embarrassing dad trying to be a gangster rapper. This write up about 'Hard in da Paint' explains the appeal of both Ross and Wacka (though I don't need the latter explaining to me natch)...

''If there’s a song that truly exemplifies the fact that Jeezy lost, it's "Hard in the Paint". Once infamous for his adlib heavy, flow-over-lyrics, heart-over-smarts approach to rap, his aesthetic has been taken to it's logical extreme in different ways by two of his contemporaries. Both of whom are featured on this song.

On one end of the spectrum you have Waka Flocka, who has essentially elevated the sonic aspects of that Jeezy-brand of rap to a level the prototype never achieved. Waka's emphasis on adlibs and aggressive delivery is so intense, that to acknowledge his bars would actually DISTRACT from the message of his rap. That’s because the message of Waka's rap isn’t one that involves anything remotely resembling a statement, let alone a narrative. Instead, the mission statement is emotion driven aggression, pure and simple. Directionless and aimless, Flocka removes Jeezy's workmanlike focus on drug dealing. Thereby providing the freedom to utilize his delivery to elicit a much more aggressive and emotional reaction from the listener.

On the opposite end of the spectrum is Rick Ross, who is not a gangster rapper in the traditional sense. While lyrically talented, Rozay’s words rarely delve below the surface, eschewing more personal and negative aspects of drug dealing to focus completely on the glamorous image of a kingpin. He’s a guy who knows the gangster aesthetic in and out, even if he appears to be oblivious to the gangster lifestyle. While Waka’s raps are much better when less emphasis is placed on lyrics, the key to appreciating RAWSE is to let the vivid images and themes that his punchlines convey play out, never focusing on the lack of depth of character behind them. Songs such as MC Hammer, BMF, and of course "Hard in the Paint" are effortless for RAWSE. They provide a blank canvas that encourage the Teflon Don to paint grandiose images of excess, without the constraints of an actual song concept.

William doesn’t attempt to compete with Flocka in regards to delivery - something Waka’s label mate Gucci Mane should have considered on his version of the song - and relies on his naturally authoritative voice to carry his infectious lines and excessive imagery. In short, where Flocka removed any semblance of lyricism from the style of rap Jeezy pioneered, Rick Ross has managed to improve the lyrics of said style and even make it a strong point.

"Hard in the Paint" is the pinnacle of lowest common denominator rap.''

From THIS BLOG (http://www.lattisawtapes.com/search/label/Greatest%20Rap%20Songs%20of%202010), which has done a top 50 rap tunes of 2010 ting which is full of good tunes and good writing.

This is also good (http://metallungies.com/2010/12/beat-drop-best-of-2010-part-1/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+metallungies%2FEUwv+%28Metal+ Lungies%29), a bunch of people I've never heard of (and Mark Ronson) picking their favourite rap productions of 2010.

listening to a lot of curren$y at the moment:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGQTHQterFg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVvNyDwrmz4&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9EuIRsXoL8&feature=fvw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBsJJd2r92E&feature=related

dipset fans should check this (via realniggatumblr)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF2Q9oJidgw&feature=player_embedded

Also via realniggatumblr


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOnqYcOaafU&feature=player_embedded#!

Corpsey
20-01-2011, 03:43 PM
Also, coming from somebody who has played Pro Evo 2010 far too many times, I really want to hear a Dipset version of '1000 trees' by the Stereophonics where 'trees' are replaced by 'grams'.

''Only takes one goon, to sellllllll a thousannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd grams!''

It would go so so so hard in Jamie Oliver's whip on the way to Sainsburys.

BareBones
20-01-2011, 04:12 PM
listening to a lot of curren$y at the moment:


me too - love that michael knight one! they got the lighting in that video spot on too :cool:

you need to get on fifa corpsey, pro evo is over now innit!

Corpsey
20-01-2011, 04:37 PM
FIFA is objectively better but Pro Evo is actually fun to play. 30 yard volleys and 5-3 scorelines.

Corpsey
20-01-2011, 04:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji6NBKBb13Y

http://reichswald.ca/images/misc/source/cropped%20gun%20firing.JPG

luka
22-01-2011, 01:31 AM
have you heard this currensy corpse? i think he gets smashed on his own track here by fiend...
love this beat so much....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCdpgbBL4yM

Corpsey
22-01-2011, 04:57 PM
Yeah that's one of my favourites by him. That sun-drenched soul sound fits Wiz and Curren$y's 'jet setter' schtick to a tee, non? Curren$y apparently might have signed for Warner (http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/index.php?topic=38264.0) for a big cheque. I couldn't believe it when I saw 'Black and Yellow' has 23 million views on Youtube (think its tied in with a football team somehow - Pittsburgh?). You're right about Fiend, btw, he kills it. Love the horns.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm0fAxkNWqc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s8fyoifuvg

not 2010, but fucking TIMELESS. Actually this is basically just the 'hip hop (any recent year)' thread now I suppose.

CrowleyHead
22-01-2011, 07:02 PM
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Lex Luger talking. Ay.

baboon2004
23-01-2011, 02:20 PM
have you heard this currensy corpse? i think he gets smashed on his own track here by fiend...
love this beat so much....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCdpgbBL4yM

geat call Luka - my favourite track of the week.

Benny B
23-01-2011, 02:36 PM
What do people think of Ghostface's Apollo kids album? His best since Fishscale I reckon

pantha
24-01-2011, 12:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdi76GGzVY

phenomenal.

luka
24-01-2011, 04:28 AM
according to cocaine blunts danny browns favourite mc is dizzee rascal.

outraygeous
24-01-2011, 02:08 PM
according to cocaine blunts danny browns favourite mc is dizzee rascal.

This is true, he is overly obessed with grime and dizzee. His fave tune is wonders - what.

Had a 'convo' on twitter about it.

also a massive fan of these new puritans (i think)

outraygeous
24-01-2011, 03:35 PM
This guy name checks Kano in one of his tracks of this mixtape


http://vimeo.com/16155256

Corpsey
24-01-2011, 03:52 PM
according to cocaine blunts danny browns favourite mc is dizzee rascal.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7B8cg8kiB8

''i'm low in a malibu two door listenin' to dizzee rascal''

luka
25-01-2011, 12:52 AM
def jux put him out in the states i think so if you were listening to them i guess you would come across dizzee.

CrowleyHead
25-01-2011, 03:40 AM
That was the third album though.

There was a big push for Grime in the USA by the music media press in the '04-'05 era when there was the fissure between mainstream rap journalists being fairly dominated by more of the 'rap moguls' than hyping new artists, and the 'new music' media found grime a lot more interesting/artistic/pleasing than say, crunk. I'd say it started with SPIN trying to sell The Streets to America and a bunch of people in the USA mislabeling MIA as grime and ended around Jay-Z putting out Lady Sovereign. I know, I'm one of the Americans they happily suckered, thanks to Simon Reynolds doing a big article in Spin on grime. Thank god Reynolds name dropped Wiley or I'd thought Dizzee was just a rapper.

Dizzee had a minor following already in the US due to critics talking about Boy In Da Corner and MTV2 offering occasional play of "Fix Up" (which is probably his most overt 'hip-hop' record on Boy).

Def Jux has really VERY little to do with Dizzee, aside from having him tour with Kidz N The Hall when they'd just gotten a Billboard charting single and managed to hit a commercial peak, and El-P who is of course, El-P.

luka
25-01-2011, 11:15 AM
yeah? ok.

baboon2004
25-01-2011, 11:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdi76GGzVY

phenomenal.

that is really brilliant. along with all the other stuff on this thread (which has rejuvenated my interest in hip-hop after a period of falling out of love with it), could we make a case for a real revival in great hip hop over the past couple of years?

Corpsey
28-01-2011, 01:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmP7TYtDVUU&feature=player_embedded

Beat knocks on this one. Problem for me is I just find Wiz a bit corny - he's got a weak rapping voice (sounds much better over spacey/laid-back beats on 'OJ and Kush') and his hooks are catchy but also can be pretty inane. That ''I'm on my level'' has pretty much the same little melody as ''blackanyellablackanyellablackanyella''. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePtoxDhJSw) He looks cool though, think that's actually a big part of his appeal to people - along with the stoner schtick. His album ('Rolling Papers' but NOT domo genesis) could be worth a listen, the tune with Snoop is good (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4lkXxO4YgY), much more 'OJ and Kush'-y (sounds like the beat's by the same producer that did 'Mesmorized' - cow bells and dam-funky synths...) and presumably there'll be some Curren$y guest spots on it too.

Corpsey
28-01-2011, 02:21 AM
according to cocaine blunts danny browns favourite mc is dizzee rascal.

Asked him on twitter what his favourite tune on 'Boy in da corner' is (he said its his favourite album, above 'Illmatic') - it's 'hold ya mouf'.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCKeC7wdDEw

prod. Samiyam.

luka
28-01-2011, 09:20 AM
has he watched conflict?

petergunn
28-01-2011, 09:31 AM
wiley needs to grow those braids again....


this track by rittz is killing it:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77YzouiFZOc

CrowleyHead
28-01-2011, 10:23 PM
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Baby Curren$y. In case anyone was wondering how long he's been doing it.

mistersloane
29-01-2011, 12:02 AM
That Rittz tune is boss. He's great on this too. Tunes like this make me wish I drove. And lived somewhere hot.

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luka
29-01-2011, 05:42 AM
black hippy?
(i like it ithout loving it)
gunplay?
(love it now, dunno if i will in a couple years)
g-side
(love it when i love it mostly dont love it)

who else gets blog hype?

luka
29-01-2011, 07:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydifbF6thfI&feature=fvw

this is my theme music at the moment.

atoga
29-01-2011, 06:09 PM
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