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benjybars
27-08-2010, 06:00 PM
just cos i cannot stop listening to old youngsta sets..


i really like this one - http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=VERSION002

i'm sure there's some more tunes from the last couple of years that sound like they could have been played at dmz in 05-06.

Sick Boy
27-08-2010, 06:15 PM
That's what I thought Swamp 81's M.O. seemed to be at first, but then I realized after seeing the last three releases that it was basically only Kryptic Minds who were bringing that to the table. I don't even really like Kryptic Minds very much; they're a bit to self-consciously '06-styled dubstep.

I think I remember there being some bits I liked off the Silkie album that were reminiscent of that warm, dubby style, although you don't see much of the stark minimalist stuff so much anymore do you? Skream's Trapped In A Dark Bubble was a cracker for that kind of fix.

What's going on with Loefah? I know he runs that label now, but does he still make tunes himself like he used to?

Leo
27-08-2010, 07:23 PM
What's going on with Loefah? I know he runs that label now, but does he still make tunes himself like he used to?

during that benji b interview from a few weeks back, he said he stopped making beats for a while because he was unhappy with what he was doing, wasn't coming together (even said he doesn't like anything he released after "ruffage"). but he then said he's started again, and in the set of forthcoming swamp81 releases, there was something by "unknown artist" that they kind of implied was his. seem to recall it had a bit of a detroit/808 vibe.

Corpsey
27-08-2010, 08:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j59Qq3ggUk

http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=MEDI029

this whole EP

the b-side of that Orson is good

Ory
27-08-2010, 11:49 PM
http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=DP039

on dub police, no less.

Benny B
27-08-2010, 11:54 PM
06 was a golden year for dubstep and all that, but 06 was also when dubstep started to plod and I'm not sure I'm really down with that any more. Just about the only dubstep thing I can be bothered listening to nowadays is the pre-halfstep era stuff (especially that old hatcha mix that Blackdown unearthed on his blog). Everything else just brings me down.

Slothrop
28-08-2010, 12:30 AM
I really miss proper plod tbh. These days you've got the moshy wobble stuff which is mostly just awful and loads of people doing stuff that's kind of like the serious boys' version of garage or funky house (ie it's got beats you can dance to but it's definitely not fun because that would be a bit girly) and some of that's great, but there's nothing much like the old heavy deep meditational halfstep stuff. Which is a shame, because for my money the thing of being slow and heavy and deep and introspective while still actually being communal dance music was at least as radical and exciting as all the early garagey tunes.

Dr Awesome
28-08-2010, 03:13 AM
That Orson release has been one of the greatest surprises for me this year. Thanks to whoever spotted it in that original dubstep thread. I've played it everywhere, and at home every time I mix. Madness is fantastic, really fun track to mix. My only gripe about it is that you can't cue directly from the start.
With the whole 06' thing, I've just been using this time to buy represses and track down tracks off discogs.
System/Molten arrived in the post this morning. As did Toasty Boy - Splash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6LeuAflrMY). The various Jack Sparrow bits have a nice kinda "old" tribal vibe too.

atoga
28-08-2010, 04:17 PM
Time Dilated by Matter - Timeblind, same label as that orson: http://vimeo.com/5756737

a bit different but it has the orientalism & heaviness down

paolo
28-08-2010, 04:59 PM
Calibre - Tenopause/Discreet Dub
http://boomkat.com/vinyl/306050-calibre-tenopause

Mark Pritchard - Elephant Dub
http://boomkat.com/vinyl/272898-mark-pritchard-elephant-dub

SP:MC and Joker D - Taiko Dub/Bad Dreams
http://boomkat.com/vinyl/234511-sp-mc-joker-d-taiko-dub-bad-dreams

Big Nose
28-08-2010, 06:33 PM
KM & Youngsta http://boomkat.com/vinyl/300904-kryptic-minds-youngsta-cold-blooded-surge

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Skream gave this away for free recently.

Dr Awesome
29-08-2010, 03:08 AM
KM & Youngsta http://boomkat.com/vinyl/300904-kryptic-minds-youngsta-cold-blooded-surge

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Skream gave this away for free recently.

Hybrid/Wasteland are more 06' ish imo, and Dark Light is an old tune, so kinda doesn't count.

Big Nose
29-08-2010, 09:55 AM
Dark Light is an old tune, so kinda doesn't count.

Its post 06 tho right?

Dr Awesome
29-08-2010, 10:45 AM
Its post 06 tho right?

No idea. Can't remember where/when I first heard it.

Big Nose
29-08-2010, 10:48 AM
No idea. Can't remember where/when I first heard it.

First time I heard it was late 08, early 09 on a Youngsta set, around the time when Memories of 3rd Base surfaced.

Blackdown
29-08-2010, 12:00 PM
I'd be relunctant to reduce 06 = plod/eyes down. This is also the time of skream's ancient memories remix, coki tortured, mala anti war dub & bury the boy.

Phaedo
31-08-2010, 03:24 PM
Distance, Cyrus, Kryptic Minds, VIVEK, SP:MC, Verse, Mala, Calibre, Icicle, Antisocial and plenty of other names are continuing that older darker sound while still keeping things fresh. 2004 -2006 obviously had a special vibe but if you like that older sound there's still plenty of stuff imo.

muser
03-09-2010, 02:28 PM
alot of UK funky reminds me of pre 2006 dubstep.

jimitheexploder
03-09-2010, 06:39 PM
Really feeling that new VIVEK EP, he's on it. I've not enjoyed such a deep set from someone in some time until I heard him warming the place up at DMZ's 4th Bday in Leeds. I just got the mix CD that comes with the wax too, its sounding real nice.

More on this deep vibe at least... Icicle and Orphan101, we've had mixes from them both recently on tha rootah and they keep that vibe rolling in their own way. Those new Pinch bits with Pavel Ambiont http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=PP100 sound good too. LHF remind me of it too but a whole bunch more at the same time.

Bang Diddley
03-09-2010, 10:13 PM
I'd be relunctant to reduce 06 = plod/eyes down. This is also the time of skream's ancient memories remix, coki tortured, mala anti war dub & bury the boy.

Nods in agreement as much as I love the introspective stuff. Hold tight Grevious Angel and Placid for their early dubstep mixes.

Good thread Ill try to check some of the tunes. I'm still feeling the Silkie CD so much. Probably the best set I've bought as I can't afford 12's and vinyl.

Is there other stuff on CD is should look into.

Ory
20-11-2010, 03:07 AM
new j kenzo "stomp" on argon almost sounds like some old loefah thing. very crisp and punchy.

http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=ARG034

mms
20-11-2010, 05:19 PM
post dubstep housier bits that sound like generic tech house from 2005 seems to be the big thing for 2011

benjybars
01-12-2010, 07:07 PM
new j kenzo "stomp" on argon almost sounds like some old loefah thing. very crisp and punchy.

http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=ARG034

fucking good call ... Stomp is RUFF!!

i'm really feeling the new Kulture release - http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=RDCTN006

Blackdown
01-12-2010, 07:44 PM
post dubstep housier bits that sound like generic tech house from 2005 seems to be the big thing for 2011

generic tech house from 2000! Eukatech, Mr C, Plank Records, 4x4 kick and some pads... that's what i find crazy abuot the whole 130/post dubstep stuff, is you're always a hair's breadth from bland mediocrity...

daddek
01-12-2010, 08:13 PM
that's what i find crazy abuot the whole 130/post dubstep stuff, is you're always a hair's breadth from bland mediocrity...

fuckin hell thats true. ironic in this thread topic though.

Blackdown
01-12-2010, 09:16 PM
Check this for example, which just arrived in my inbox: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20nr-ZvncpY&feature=related Apparantly they're "They are post-dubstep, experimental producers".

Sounds like 90s ambient to me but hey...

benjybars
02-12-2010, 07:12 AM
oi bugger off to the post-dubstep thread and stop derailing!

this thread is strictly for moody eyes down 140bpm rollers with massive bassweight and punishing snares
;)

FairiesWearBoots
02-12-2010, 09:47 AM
bit more full-on but I reckon this would sound great on a massive rig
when that sub kicks in, its serious

Emalkay - Crusader (Levels)

http://www.redeyerecords.co.uk/products/Emalkay/Emalkay_DP046.html

Dr Awesome
11-01-2011, 08:29 AM
Bump bump bump.

Everyone heard the Box Clever bits?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnQNgiYgAM4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du0gqv4iiFU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=criM8b-MaTE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utJ8IRNVdzQ

Got the TMSV one first and the Cymatic one today, blown away by both. 10" 45's aren't too much of a hassle to mix either.

gremino
11-01-2011, 09:22 AM
that's what i find crazy abuot the whole 130/post dubstep stuff, is you're always a hair's breadth from bland mediocrity...
unfortunately... it's great that we have this unnamed style right now, but still it's rarely really hitting the spot.

outraygeous
11-01-2011, 09:22 AM
new j kenzo "stomp" on argon almost sounds like some old loefah thing. very crisp and punchy.

http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=ARG034

takes me back to Thursday nights at plastic people.

I only really like listening to this sort of music, I dont feel the need for wheels or any hypement.

I would be happy sitting in a easy chair in the sweet spot of a club with a bowl of sausages listening to this sorta stuff.

Thats a good thing by the way

Dr Awesome
11-01-2011, 09:41 AM
That J:Kenzo release is pretty darn hot. Mostly find myself reaching of the other side though, Between Two Worlds.

benjybars
11-01-2011, 03:29 PM
takes me back to Thursday nights at plastic people.

I only really like listening to this sort of music, I dont feel the need for wheels or any hypement.

I would be happy sitting in a easy chair in the sweet spot of a club with a bowl of sausages listening to this sorta stuff.

Thats a good thing by the way

yeah feel exactly the same :)

with regards to the Black Box / Box Clever label... yeah, they're killing it right now

the KM remix on this (http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=BLACKBOX008) is just insane.. sounded fucking immense at DMZ.

both sides of this (http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=BLACKBOX005) are pretty damn tasty as well

benjybars
11-01-2011, 06:22 PM
Can't believe I forgot Deep Medi.

yeah Deep Medi basically own this thread with their last few releases:

http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=MEDI034 (new Tunnidge. big)

http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=MEDI032

http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=MEDI033 (new Goth Trad. his best release)

http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=MEDI031

http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=MEDI028

http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=MEDI027 (Tenopause is BRUTAL!)

Ory
19-07-2011, 06:15 PM
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Phaedo
20-07-2011, 01:18 AM
http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=WHEELDEAL161 LX-one bit on here is nice and weighty

http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/Info?Track=NONPLUS014 Exothermic Reaction must be one of Skream's last good dark tracks too

hopper
21-07-2011, 11:34 PM
yeah that exothermic reaction track is big, sounds like something lifted straight out of a skream 06/07 set. Kinda makes me think of the shinein and sandsnake, it's an energy I kinda miss in a lot of music going on these days. I hardly bother even to check what skream/benga do these days really.

what are people's thoughts on deep medi, can't believe they're on 49 - seems there's very little quality control.

alex
22-07-2011, 01:08 PM
for me they started off well, the kromestar track, the silkie ones, the Hijak one, they were all nice, then I stopped buying them for a while, picked up the 'purple love' without listening (as I thought silkie & mizz beats, yes!) and was really underwhelmed, have been from there tbh.

Although I really really love 'Stand', 'I Sed', 'Changes' and 'Miracles' those tracks will always have a special place in my heart.

Also 'Disco Rekkah' and 'Marz Attakz' are great, didn't get into the silkie albums much though?

So I think just from those tracks alone they more than make up for the weaker ones (goth trad etc..)

Phaedo
22-07-2011, 01:22 PM
Barely a Medi release I don't like tbh. There are obviously a lot of pretty standard, functional dubstep tracks but all well executed enough to enjoy to me, not always buy though.

joe.dfx
22-07-2011, 06:46 PM
goth-trad as the "weaker" deep medi releases!?! you should be hung.

the newer ones i don't feel as much. not a big fan of v.i.v.e.k, im not into the slower tempo stuff either...but they're all still well produced and i think it's just getting harder to 'write' dubstep that sounds as fresh as it did 3-4-5 years ago ; )

but the cyrus 12" was good, and so is the new Pinch imo...

benjybars
22-07-2011, 07:18 PM
vivek tunes are stupidly weighty on a big system.


anyone even slightly dubious about vivek or goth trad clearly didn't catch their b2b set at DMZ 6th birthday... absolute pure weight and vibes

Littlefoot
25-07-2011, 09:19 AM
generic tech house from 2000! Eukatech, Mr C, Plank Records, 4x4 kick and some pads... that's what i find crazy abuot the whole 130/post dubstep stuff, is you're always a hair's breadth from bland mediocrity...

Im so happy lots of other people are thinking this!

Ory
04-12-2011, 08:19 PM
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