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MatthewH
03-07-2012, 03:49 AM
Apologies if this has been mentioned before but I found it curious.

I've been seeing the genre name Electroswing around here lately. The main monthly has been quietly packing out relatively large venues (300-400 capacity, the equivalent of probably 600-800 in London). Then this weekend Piknic Electronik (up to around 6000 capacity) had all electroswing djs, which is as big as things get here.

For those who are unfamiliar with it, it's essentially along the lines of Mr Scruff's Get A Move On but more tech-housy. Very syncopated 4/4 with lots of horns.

http://soundcloud.com/boleklolek/bolek-lolek-summer-kick

In true Dissensian form, I heard the music described before hearing it played and fully expected to find it utterly awful. While it's not exactly forward-thinking, it's harmless enough, and the fans reaction is really interesting.

People seem to be having *actual fun*, doing the full swing dancing-with-partner thing, or their take on it anyways, dressing up n all that. My impression is that it's really a fan-led, not dj-led or music-led scene, which is refreshing. The crowd is young and hipsterish but not really the usual dance music crowd.

Was it Simon Reynolds whose ears pricked up at the mention of the words "cheesy"? This would ping on his radar for sure then.

Anyone see this in their respective necks of the woods?

IdleRich
03-07-2012, 10:00 AM
I read about this a year or so back. Thought pretty much the same as you that it sounded a bit silly. Isn't a lot of it old swing tunes given a slightly tougher electronic re-rub? Reminds me of the stuff that Greens Keepers and Mike Dixon were doing about ten years ago though I've no idea where this was being played then.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm3YlUevuBQ

This must be happening round here (Hackney/Dalston) but I've never seen it. Well, I've seen lots of people in period costume but I assumed that they were going to more "authentically retro" (ha) swing nights - perhaps I was wrong.

mistersloane
03-07-2012, 10:05 AM
I was in a cocktail bar in Soho - about 80 people - and they were playing this stuff this weekend. Worked well for a cocktail bar. No-one in full dress though, more's the pity.

baboon2004
03-07-2012, 11:18 AM
"People seem to be having *actual fun*, doing the full swing dancing-with-partner thing, or their take on it anyways, dressing up n all that."

Not seen this electroswing thing, but accidentally went to a night where they were playing old swing tunes, and the *I'm having a good time, really I am* quotient was off the scale. Definitely not real fun. Nightmarish.

Gombreak
03-07-2012, 12:09 PM
I remember walking past a place in Hackney a couple of months ago and wondering why people were so dressed up to the nines to go dance to what sounded to my ears like Rhadoo/Villalobos/Cadenza tech-house. I guess this is what that was.

viktorvaughn
03-07-2012, 12:16 PM
Book Club in Leonard St has a night of this fairly regularly I think, some mates of mine went.

zhao
03-07-2012, 12:51 PM
yeah this stuff has been popular in Berlin for a few years now.

after a decade of pummeling monotonous kick drums and vacuous sound design to pass for "substance", if you re-introduce a bit of "soul" or "melody" or some kind of humanity back into the club, even if it's entirely nostalgic and reactionary, of course people are going to "have actual fun" again on the dance floor.

me i can't really give in to the all too easy and perhaps rather guilty pleasures of this stuff, preferring music from other continents which never lost its "soul" (for lack of better obviously), but i think it is in general a healthy turn from too much (unoriginal, formulaic, uninspired) cold machine robot music.

Blackdown
03-07-2012, 01:31 PM
after a decade of pummeling monotonous kick drums and vacuous sound design to pass for "substance"


ahahahaha. ^ ^^brilliant!

IdleRich
03-07-2012, 05:35 PM
"Book Club in Leonard St has a night of this fairly regularly I think, some mates of mine went."
Oh yeah, now you say it, it rings a bell.

4linehaiku
03-07-2012, 05:48 PM
Sounds perfect for the post-'headline act' but pre-'bed by 1am' slot at this (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/new-festival-aimed-directly-at-twats-201203285064).

benw
03-07-2012, 06:24 PM
this is 'big in brighton'. i fucking hate it. its one of those genres that is based entirely on nicking all the good ideas from another genre and just chucking some kind of dancefloor friendly beat under it.

See also:

Those very sample heavy breakbeat mixes, with entire musical ideas nicked wholesale and just given a beefier breakbeat.

Martin D
03-07-2012, 06:55 PM
Bit wet and the wrong side of funky for me.

SecondLine
03-07-2012, 07:07 PM
my gut is telling me there is some cultural overlap between this and the chap olympiad

e/y
03-07-2012, 07:11 PM
Sounds perfect for the post-'headline act' but pre-'bed by 1am' slot at this (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/new-festival-aimed-directly-at-twats-201203285064).

hahaha

bruno
03-07-2012, 11:12 PM
nicking all the good ideas from another genre and just chucking some kind of dancefloor friendly beat under it.
not to sully the thread, but there was a classical music and beats thing called hooked on classics, and a hooked on swing offshoot that may give genre-mixers pause. also jive bunny and the mastermixers, but i don't want to degrade the thread further.

hint
04-07-2012, 02:54 PM
jive bunny and the mastermixers

Respect the architects

paolo
04-07-2012, 03:32 PM
Yeah I won a Jive Bunny album in a raffle and it's awesome

Benny B
04-07-2012, 03:40 PM
aaah Jive Bunny. Takes me back to the village youth club on Sunday nights, skidding on yer knees on the dancefloor and thinking you were well 'ard with yer tin of Shandy Bass.

IdleRich
04-07-2012, 07:42 PM
Jive Bunny make hard house now (well a few years ago) under the name Tidy Boys. Hence Tidy Trax even I think. Can that be true? I think it's true, it sounds too stupid to be true.

bruno
04-07-2012, 08:22 PM
here they are, crafting the music of the future.

http://files.dropbox.com/u/127543/dss2/jivebunny.jpg

mistersloane
04-07-2012, 11:55 PM
and just to darken the thread even further, the aforementioned Hooked on Classics was one of London serial killer and necrophiliac Dennis Nilsen's favourite records, which he said soothed him.

There's a bad moon rising.

bruno
05-07-2012, 02:18 AM
not only is it wrong, it's demonic: a friend was into satanism, muzak, etc., and he loved it. also, dentists used it in waiting rooms.

IdleRich
05-07-2012, 07:52 AM
My mum used to listen to a tape called Hooked on Classics but I think it was just excerpts from classical pieces, no extra beats added.

Lichen
05-07-2012, 08:01 AM
My brother and I caned Hooked on Classics.

There were no beats iirc, but I think the pieces were jauntier than in other recordings.

Lichen
05-07-2012, 08:03 AM
Whoah.

There are beats. Listen if you dare.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=159sMOkEq5o

IdleRich
05-07-2012, 09:25 AM
Crikey you're right. I never noticed that when I was.... four? Jaunty is the word, and not a nice word in this situation.

Lichen
05-07-2012, 11:19 AM
I love it when the Wiliam Tell Overture kicks in.

Proper rush.

IdleRich
05-07-2012, 11:41 AM
Strangely enough, as soon as my brother was old enough to drive he used to borrow Mum's car and rex around the town centre rinsing The William Tell Overture. Think he drew for the original (unremixed) version though - unfuckablewith.

IdleRich
05-07-2012, 11:57 AM
Or do I mean unfuckwithable?

mistersloane
05-07-2012, 12:11 PM
Is there an electroswing abuse hotline we can call?

Lichen
05-07-2012, 12:25 PM
Strangely enough, as soon as my brother was old enough to drive he used to borrow Mum's car and rex around the town centre rinsing The William Tell Overture. Think he drew for the original (unremixed) version though - unfuckablewith.

Hilarious. Proper bombast.

Lichen
05-07-2012, 12:27 PM
Is there an electroswing abuse hotline we can call?

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