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Eric
15-12-2004, 06:33 AM
Anyone know of good web or other resources on kwaito? if there's a space with downloads it would be extra nice ... thanks!!

Grievous Angel
17-12-2004, 10:18 AM
You could go over to UK-Dance and get in touch with Dr Stuart Borthwick (http://www.staff.livjm.ac.uk/mccsbort/) or Justin (http://www.uk-dance.org/members/196.html), they know a lot about it.

Woebot
17-12-2004, 01:49 PM
i import my kwaito here:

http://www.musica.co.za/eMusica/segment.asp?SegmentID=1&GenreID=14

their hot picks are strongly indicative of, er, what's hot. i know cos ive done some research via another source.

stuart borthwick is here as dj_red. he's travelled to SA but I'm not sure how up to date he is on the scene.

Grievous Angel
17-12-2004, 02:33 PM
stuart borthwick is here as dj_red. he's travelled to SA but I'm not sure how up to date he is on the scene.
He's done a few kwaito mix CDs and has done a number of kwaito (and other genre) DJ sets in Africa in the recent past...

Eric
17-12-2004, 05:50 PM
Thanks for the info. I'll pursue these leads ...

WOEBOT did you manage to buy stuff from this record store w/o problems? I was told by some webstore (I think these guys but I'm not sure) that I needed to pay in rand. was this wrong?? if so excellent!

Woebot
17-12-2004, 06:26 PM
Thanks for the info. I'll pursue these leads ...

WOEBOT did you manage to buy stuff from this record store w/o problems? I was told by some webstore (I think these guys but I'm not sure) that I needed to pay in rand. was this wrong?? if so excellent!
they'll let you pay with a credit card. i think they just charge you in rand. you have to email them:

queries@musica.co.za

but its worth it in the end. definitely get the 2 revolution cds!!!!

Eric
17-12-2004, 06:54 PM
but its worth it in the end. definitely get the 2 revolution cds!!!!

what do they sound like? I havent heard revolution by themselves (just collaborating). which one do you like better?

continuum
30-12-2009, 10:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKxhKhLhlb0

zhao
31-12-2009, 08:19 AM
hahaha thanks for posting vid makes me happy :D

dude gets a lotta mileage outta that signature marching band beat don't he?

zhao
31-12-2009, 08:32 AM
completely incidental, am just listening to Cooly G's remix of Kesha's Tik Tok and the beat is more than a little related to this...

pattycakes
31-12-2009, 10:25 AM
is capetown a good city for this stuff? might be going soon

hint
31-12-2009, 01:15 PM
is capetown a good city for this stuff? might be going soon

I was there earlier in the year and got hooked up with a DJ who said he'd get us some, but it ended up with him saying "come back tomorrow" 2 days in a row and I had to leave by the second day unfortunately. I think it's easier to find mixes, rather than individual tracks.

Went to Johannesburg and bought some CDs in a market in a last minute rush, but they were more trad. House. This was the pick - big tune from last year:

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mistersloane
31-12-2009, 03:23 PM
is capetown a good city for this stuff? might be going soon

There's quite a few record/CD shops- start off at CD Warehouse on the Waterfront and then ask the assistants there as well as picking up leaflets about gigs and whatever. There's a chain shop upstairs in the mall there as well. Always worth looking through any shop as often the stock is years old and you can find some real gems, much to the staff's amusement usually. It's mainly CDs, lots of mixes like hint says.

There's (or was, 2 years back) a dance music specialist on Green Market Square, downstairs in a shop, lots of Dennis Ferrer and that sort of stuff. I can't find it online and cant remember what it was called tho, sorry.

Um check out Woodstock and Observatory as areas that are really good - there was a great second hand shop in one of them but cant remember which now. Ask people who you see - it's pretty obvious who to speak to, hip kids stand out a mile - cos it's quite hard to find out stuff; there isn't any major kind of Time Out or anything.

Feel free to PVT if you got any questions.

Tony Flavourmore
04-01-2010, 02:46 AM
any kwaito mixes floating about? (kwaito, not house if poss.):D

zhao
04-01-2010, 07:30 AM
...

Tony Flavourmore
04-01-2010, 01:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdA7uz6u9Wc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PwH1U5s6bU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi7JFBpxTyU&feature=related

meantime:cool:

Gavin
04-01-2010, 10:57 PM
A couple of academic articles on kwaito:

http://www.divshare.com/download/10030887-695

http://www.divshare.com/download/10030903-db8

pattycakes
26-01-2010, 07:48 PM
so i'm off to capetown tomorrow for a month, what are the chances/risks of me finding a party that resembles something like this?:

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apparently the temps are in the 35-38 region :D

zhao
26-01-2010, 08:52 PM
27 January / 27 Djs / 2 Dance Floors / 1 Dj Farewell Party

@SCALLAS on Wed 27 Jan 2010

Djs:

CNDO / TWITTY / WEBSTA / DEEP / MASIYA

Dj 15 vs NZWIRI / VUMAR / Dj MX / BONGAZ / HAPPY GAL / BIGGA
GUKWA / AMENISTO / LLOYD / DR MTATI / CLOWN DALLAS / JABU
SBONZA / STERA / MAENZI / KAY BEE / SNAXX / MP & BLUE / ELNINO

Hip Hop Djs:

Dj FEEL & P KUTTAH

Ladies FREE b4 11pm

zhao
26-01-2010, 09:03 PM
oh wait i think that's in Durban... you gonna be there at all? i know more people there and not so many in capetown...

pattycakes
29-01-2010, 08:10 PM
i think i'll probably be staying in capetown most of the time, we'll see.

man, the heat today was intense, 30 degrees c and it's likely to get hotter!

hint
29-01-2010, 08:51 PM
La Reference was the club I was taken to (164 Long Street). We were only there very briefly though, before having to go and play elsewhere. So I'm afraid I can't really tell you what it will be like at peak time, but they do play Kwaito there at weekends, as far as I know.

Master Cash is the DJ there:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QGZs65vAG8U/SVKIXWWAYnI/AAAAAAAAAIo/H5Zuqt5Gs4Q/s400/MASTERCASH-MIX.jpg
http://www.zshare.net/download/532220023dbba1c9]


http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cape-Town-South-Africa/Club-La-Reference/70572723364

4linehaiku
31-01-2010, 06:39 PM
I want a decent MP3 of that Mzu Bullet tune so much. Spent quite some time Googling it when it first got posted on Dissensus, and I've just tried again. Nothing. Anyone got any ideas?
It's completely hype. Thick, syrupy hype.

pattycakes
15-02-2010, 10:12 AM
La Reference was the club I was taken to (164 Long Street). We were only there very briefly though, before having to go and play elsewhere. So I'm afraid I can't really tell you what it will be like at peak time, but they do play Kwaito there at weekends, as far as I know.

top tip, had a banging time there this fri

spoke about casablanca with the dj, he said you can't really find it anywhere cos its so old. he made a big point of the fact that he would never play it anymore. said something about people from pretoria using too many drums in their tunes :slanted:

joe90
15-02-2010, 04:29 PM
I want a decent MP3 of that Mzu Bullet tune so much. Spent quite some time Googling it when it first got posted on Dissensus, and I've just tried again. Nothing. Anyone got any ideas?
It's completely hype. Thick, syrupy hype.

I got it on vinyl;)... and trust me it was a mission to get it.


yeah i asked in a few places in SA but no joy... that youtube clip is taken off SABC1, the main tv channel, so it can't be THAT underground... only mp3 i have sounds like it was probably ripped off youtube...

btw. dj sdunkero has done some good stuff. love the cheeky halftime breakdown in this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=778PkUtLpNg)...

if you're after this kindof kwaitohouse stuff you could have a sniff round here (http://www.afrodesiamp3.com/catalog/index.php)

dj sdunkero is as good as it gets , i rinsed out afrodesia of all his stuff before it went tits up.

4linehaiku
15-02-2010, 06:48 PM
I got it on vinyl;)... and trust me it was a mission to get it..

Argh! Where from? How?

Ory
15-02-2010, 10:28 PM
can you post label scans so at least we know what we're looking for? lol

baboon2004
16-02-2010, 12:05 AM
That LV mix Blackdown posted on the funky thread is just too good....

I have a bag here in my hand from the African Music Store in Cape Town, on Long Street as was the club mentioned upthread - http://www.africanmusicstore.co.za/ Dunno if it's any use, but I got bought a few kwaito CDs from there...

baboon2004
16-02-2010, 02:59 PM
from Blackdown's blog again, but too big not to repost!

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joe90
17-02-2010, 07:37 PM
Argh! Where from? How?


My Nigerian school mates cousin is a radio dj in Nigeria and he knew someone who knew someone who knew someone who had it and he arranged it for me... about 6months of emails & phone calls to secure it.
No disrespect to the 7 people who pm'd me for a vinyl rip but i put so much effort into getting tunes im not about to give them away at the drop of a hat:p

grizzleb
17-02-2010, 07:46 PM
That's well shite. It's an african tune nobody can readily get a hold of. Just fucking fire it up, what's the point?

routes
17-02-2010, 09:19 PM
@grizzleb i got the mp3 from here (http://www.mediafire.com/?hzlnmnkkznm). sounds like a youtube rip to me but at least it's something for the portable mp3 player. it's such a fun tune to walk to, 3.59 is never enough tho.

@jon90 :|

grizzleb
17-02-2010, 11:39 PM
Cheers for that mate, got it on now. Quality tune!

mistersloane
17-02-2010, 11:58 PM
Why do you want to 'own' it anyway? Play it on youtube or rip it if you 'need' it that much. Leave Jon alone, he can do what he wants, it's his shit, don't criticise.

baboon2004
18-02-2010, 10:25 AM
http://kaganof.com/kagablog/2006/10/12/the-kwaito-story-mzeke-zeke-interviewed-by-aryan-kaganof/

Really interesting Mzekezeke interview

grizzleb
18-02-2010, 02:52 PM
Why do you want to 'own' it anyway? Play it on youtube or rip it if you 'need' it that much. Leave Jon alone, he can do what he wants, it's his shit, don't criticise.
I'm in the wrong here dude, I apologise for a knee-jerk reaction with excessive swearing. Btw, I never said I 'need' it that much - I didn't even pm the guy

BareBones
19-02-2010, 01:58 PM
i want to know where to buy (and yeah, OWN!) some of the tunes in LV's mix

wise
19-02-2010, 04:00 PM
Where to buy... South Africa seems like it

zhao
19-02-2010, 04:46 PM
i want to know where to buy (and yeah, OWN!) some of the tunes in LV's mix

which LV mix has kwaito in it?

baboon2004
19-02-2010, 04:47 PM
http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2010/02/okzharp.html

scroll down here

hopper
21-02-2010, 08:10 PM
Mzu Bullet
It's completely hype. Thick, syrupy hype.

never a truer word better put

muser
22-02-2010, 03:30 AM
that MZU track is hype would be interested in the synth theyre using heard it in quite a few tracks now.

where is kwaito?

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routes
22-02-2010, 09:51 AM
where is kwaito?

lol

Umlilo is sooo catchy...

routes
23-02-2010, 12:36 PM
seems that Mzekezeke is a well known radio shock jock called DJ Sbu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mzekezeke) <--- wiki

also, check the Soweto dance off on Umlilooooo... ayBO!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPI4E9D1PeM&feature=player_embedded

hopper
23-02-2010, 03:00 PM
Going to be in cape town for a few days at the end of march, anyone got any further tips? Would la reference be an ok place to go on your own?

Gonna try and pick up a few cd's while I'm over there. Really want to pick up the culoe de song album in particular

pattycakes
25-02-2010, 05:54 PM
i went to la reference alone a few times and had a really good time. felt a bit weird on the dancefloor bein the only white person in there but the bar staff were friendly and i didnt really feel unwelcome. most people who i've spoken to and are actually into s.a. house here reckon its the best place for it. for what its worth it seems to be more of a black thing. white peeps dont seem to be that into it for the most part. deluxe down the road on the corner of long and longmarket is worth a look too but thats a bit more about yer standard deep house shennaniganz, still good tho.

lots of people i've spoken to recommend durban and jo'burg over c.t. for quality s.a. house.

routes
25-02-2010, 06:41 PM
SHOW DEM!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM_Ew6zsnDY

my mate says this choon has crossed over and is taking over mainstream radio and mainstream clubs. he reckons "we love iiiiiiiiit that's why we make the circle bigger bigger bigger bigger" is gonna be the unofficial home team chant of the world cup.

wise
26-02-2010, 07:52 AM
some free 320s and a mix here

http://soundcloud.com/jumpingbackslash

baboon2004
26-02-2010, 10:34 AM
some free 320s and a mix here

http://soundcloud.com/jumpingbackslash

Nice! Perfect to make Friday mornign more bearable. And that mix starts with Mzekezeke....yet cooler.

wise
05-03-2010, 10:15 AM
Ayobaness ep at Juno

http://www.junodownload.com/search/?quick_search_download=all&q=ayobaness&x=0&y=0&qs=1&s_search_precision=any&s_genre_id=0000

routes
05-03-2010, 11:13 AM
i'm sorta preparing myself to get very very bored of that version of mugwanti. still gonna check the comp tho.

is this old?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlEkRSq0-Qg

either way it's dutty

baboon2004
05-03-2010, 11:25 AM
few years old I think - 2006/7?

zhao
08-03-2010, 09:03 AM
thought i'd drop this here too
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc30/bobotronic/FLYERS/FRONT_space.jpg http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc30/bobotronic/FLYERS/DJZHAO-NGOMA4-GenerationBass_back_s.jpg

get it HERE (http://generationbass.com/2010/03/02/zhao/).

__________________________________________________ ______
FUSION 1: afro-asian dubstep (http://dissensus.com/showthread.php?p=150801&highlight=fusion#post150801)
NGOMA 1: global hiphop and dancehall (http://dissensus.com/showthread.php?t=7225&highlight=ngoma)
NGOMA 2: afro techno, london house (http://dissensus.com/showthread.php?t=8640&highlight=ngoma)
NGOMA 3: Zulu House, Afro-Electro, UK Funky (http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?8864-NGOMA-3-Zulu-House-Afro-Electro-UK-Funky&highlight=ngoma)

hopper
26-04-2010, 07:03 PM
Anyone know where to get a 320 of that Mzekezeke tune? Didn't pick up the CD as was only really feeling that one track.

Desperate to pick up 320s of so many of these tracks but they all seem pretty unattainable. Culoe de song style Deep House seems really popular over there at the moment. Went to a big party/BBQ type thing at one of the Cape Town townships and they were all playing this deeper sound rather than Kwaito. Nobody seemed to know anything about Mzo Bullet! These guys are worth checking out
http://soundcloud.com/infinite-boys/zulu-tribe

This track is saying a lot as well
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routes
06-05-2010, 10:41 AM
no idea where to put this. politics? football? music?

http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/the-globalisation-of-ooga-booga/

zhao
06-05-2010, 12:34 PM
no idea where to put this. politics? football? music?

http://www.mahala.co.za/culture/the-globalisation-of-ooga-booga/

great article. shit like this always, always piss me off.

lol that he spelled Colombia wrong like i did...

routes
06-05-2010, 02:23 PM
yeah it's just plain boring ole WRONG init?

still can't believe Akon (FUCKING AKON) is the "musical director" of an SA world cup. yes he's massively popular in SA. yes he owns his own diamond mine over there. but he's not an SA artist - he's Senegalese-American! why didn't they get Mdu or Mandoza or Zola or some other SA megastar?!

zhao
06-05-2010, 02:55 PM
another use for the paint metaphor: liberal progressive surface, racist structure.

Tony Flavourmore
06-05-2010, 09:15 PM
yeah it's just plain boring ole WRONG init?

still can't believe Akon (FUCKING AKON) is the "musical director" of an SA world cup. yes he's massively popular in SA. yes he owns his own diamond mine over there. but he's not an SA artist - he's Senegalese-American! why didn't they get Mdu or Mandoza or Zola or some other SA megastar?!

:mad:


i loathe akon.

zhao
07-05-2010, 10:34 AM
the following appeared on my blog so apologize if the "voice" sounds a bit... i don't know. weird.

people have brought up the fact that previous world cup songs have not always been representative of their host countries. while this is true, there are some differences:

this is a first for the African CONTINENT. a continent with an amazingly rich musical heritage (THE MOST amazing of all if you ask me, and a few musicologists).

Shakira is singing "waka waka" over an uncredited, unpaid-for rip-off of an old Cameroonian protest song.

Germany, Japan and France were colonialists, and have never been victims of colonialism, and they do not have a history of their music getting stolen and their artists being ripped off, because they were DOING the stealing and ripping off.

so given this context, this ABSOLUTELY should have been a chance for African voices to be heard, and African culture to take the spot light. but sadly, and expectedly, no.

routes
08-05-2010, 11:37 AM
i just heard Akon's "charity" song (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8493574.stm) on the new Pepsi world cup advert. there are places in South Africa where it's cheaper to buy Pepsi than water :confused:

baboon2004
08-05-2010, 11:39 AM
the following appeared on my blog so apologize if the "voice" sounds a bit... i don't know. weird.

people have brought up the fact that previous world cup songs have not always been representative of their host countries. while this is true, there are some differences:

this is a first for the African CONTINENT. a continent with an amazingly rich musical heritage (THE MOST amazing of all if you ask me, and a few musicologists).

Shakira is singing "waka waka" over an uncredited, unpaid-for rip-off of an old Cameroonian protest song.

Germany, Japan and France were colonialists, and have never been victims of colonialism, and they do not have a history of their music getting stolen and their artists being ripped off, because they were DOING the stealing and ripping off.

so given this context, this ABSOLUTELY should have been a chance for African voices to be heard, and African culture to take the spot light. but sadly, and expectedly, no.

sadly, if the organisers of Live 8 (or whatever the fuck it was called) blanched at putting African musicians at the main concert in London, it was never going to happen at the World Cup...

benw
08-05-2010, 08:09 PM
some free 320s and a mix here

http://soundcloud.com/jumpingbackslash

Cant see any 320s on this link... am i being stupid?

routes
25-05-2010, 01:59 PM
http://www.musicreview.co.za/2010/05/24/dj-cleo-pens-the-official-bafana-bafana-song-for-the-world-cup/

how many "official" world cup songs are there gonna be?

mistersloane
25-05-2010, 03:48 PM
I hope it's as good as Bloemfontein Celtic

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zhao
26-05-2010, 02:44 AM
Berlin date July 2:
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc30/bobotronic/FLYERS/Picture19.png http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc30/bobotronic/FLYERS/Picture21.png

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc30/bobotronic/random%20shit/ayoba_wire.gif

rivetrenuck
26-05-2010, 04:26 AM
That looks cool, could i get a physical release from somewhere? i could only find the digital releases on Junodownload and i think there are physical copies availble from http://www.outhere.de/?p=1485, but its an email address and not a basket.

zhao
26-05-2010, 09:02 AM
i would imagine that physical CDs will hit shops and amazon with a relative quickness but if you continue to have trouble in the next few weeks i can get more info to you.

wise
27-05-2010, 07:38 AM
Cant see any 320s on this link... am i being stupid?

He must have taken them down, I posted that quite a while ago

mistersloane
28-05-2010, 12:14 AM
Was it pattycakes or routes who mentioned a record warehouse in Capetown that they went to? I can't find any reference to it here now. Maybe I just dreamt it up through wishful thinking. Anyhow anymore music shop CT help would be good, off there on Sunday.

hopper
28-05-2010, 02:03 AM
yeah its called musica and its on the waterfront. its an old warehouse that was converted into a major store. pretty good - get the people to go in there and pick some stuff out for you. Didn't really find anything that caught my ear when I was in there in last month though unfortunately. Try and go to mzoli's which is a major barbeque at one of the local townships that has a couple of good soundsystems and amazing food. Also has a bar showing whatever football is going as well which was really good fun

routes
28-05-2010, 08:48 AM
def go mzolis on thursday or sunday night :]
the waterfront place is the only decent branch of musica, all the other ones are rubbish.
also, if you follow main road from its start near the centre about 300metres-ish up on the right hand side near all the taxi stops there is a cd emporium. opposite there is a place you can get a mean bunny chow...

mistersloane
28-05-2010, 08:54 AM
Wicked thanks guys, I'll keep you posted! Mzoli's sounds grrrrrreat!

routes
28-05-2010, 09:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7DaEq5C-rk

watching this has brought back many fun memories, the sunday open mic sessions are hilariously random and they have a dance after that sometimes turns into a bit of a raveup...... pap and sauce and bit of vors and a bottle of carling black and a lekker spluff and a skinny dip on the way home siiiigh ......

also, an aside, i love the story about the BBC spending gazillions on building some super studio with a view of table mountain for the WC. if they'd asked ANY local person they would've told them that the mountain is pretty much constantly covered by cloud in June!

muser
20-09-2010, 10:49 PM
this is basically slowed down garage


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uetWykQOWxM&feature=related

mistersloane
21-09-2010, 10:05 AM
this is basically slowed down garage


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uetWykQOWxM&feature=related

Alot of that period kwaito basically was slowed down garage, that's how it started! I love that period of the music.

muser
22-09-2010, 03:13 PM
Alot of that period kwaito basically was slowed down garage, that's how it started! I love that period of the music.

yes I think its great never really noticed it before! I typed garage and kwaito into google shortly after and saw at the top a quote on the wikipedia page from the very DJ Diplo described Kwaito as “slowed-down garage music,”.

Was that a direct influence then or just coincidental? couldnt find anything to say either.

routes
22-09-2010, 03:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STcojA1jq78&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3pte3uJJCQ&feature=player_embedded

muser
22-09-2010, 04:14 PM
ah nice, thanks. Need to lookout for some more early SA house tracks.

mistersloane
22-09-2010, 05:27 PM
yes I think its great never really noticed it before! I typed garage and kwaito into google shortly after and saw at the top a quote on the wikipedia page from the very DJ Diplo described Kwaito as “slowed-down garage music,”.

Was that a direct influence then or just coincidental? couldnt find anything to say either.

It was a direct influence, kwaito developed out of people in soweto slowing down house tracks cos everyone at that point in the townships was on mandrax and weed and they wanted their vibe a little cooler, and then the chanting over the top kinda went along from there. That Doc Shebeleza track is one of my favourite songs ever.

pattycakes
22-09-2010, 07:58 PM
just wanted to post this track because its one of my faves

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deeeeeep!

routes
22-09-2010, 10:23 PM
my mate tells me this was a huge tune for kwaito artists to spit on.. but slowed down alot, obviously


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMy3ze58GvQ

pattycakes
28-09-2010, 05:48 PM
That's well shite. It's an african tune nobody can readily get a hold of. Just fucking fire it up, what's the point?


looks like this is set to change

boom (http://www.factmag.com/2010/09/24/cult-south-african-house-track-%E2%80%98casablanca%E2%80%99-to-finally-see-physical-release/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FactMagazineMusicAndArt+%28FA CT+magazine%3A+music+and+art%29&utm_content=Google+Reader)

routes
29-09-2010, 12:40 AM
YEAH! i just trashed my wornout ole mp3...

pattycakes
29-09-2010, 01:18 AM
do you have a better mp3 than the one ripped from youtube?

routes
29-09-2010, 08:56 AM
not sure tbh... it started and ended like it was ripped from somewhere ... i did have a moment when i wondered if i'd miss the nasty sound of it... yknow.. youtube/myspace compression is the new vinyl crackle and all that!

pattycakes
29-09-2010, 11:17 AM
yeah you might have a point there

the demo of the full version here (http://www.djtunes.com/various-artists/township-funk)

definitely sounds cleaner. and somehow not so fat. the youtube one is ripped from tv so there will be broadcast compression too.

hmmm!

hopper
29-09-2010, 09:39 PM
yeah, funny about the compression thing - loses a bit of its weightiness in a way. still going to be really glad to have a copy of it

jjshite
04-10-2010, 07:54 AM
Here's a full length vinyl rip of Casablanca

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SWJAXPMR

routes
07-10-2010, 01:39 PM
the second tune in this video 'touch' is straight FIYA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORxIsucJ8us&feature=related

routes
12-11-2010, 12:02 PM
check out 'dj killer' from pretoria, part of the sheer music thing (mujava etc), pretty-much everything i've heard by him is amazing. was just searching for any more stuff by him and saw that he was killed in 2009, fucking shame. rip.

BareBones
12-11-2010, 12:55 PM
legit high quality version of mzo bullet finally available...

http://www.junodownload.com/products/township-funk-unmixed-tracks/1635155-02/

some other really good tunes on there. that mogrigo 'heavyweight' one is mental.

also i co-sign about dj killer, got loads of his tune off afrodesia, they're wicked. really love 'taxi 2 soweto', proper good trumpet bizniz.

pattycakes
12-11-2010, 03:14 PM
dj killer's dead!?

aw man :(

Aww Nein
16-11-2010, 04:39 AM
legit high quality version of mzo bullet finally available...

http://www.junodownload.com/products/township-funk-unmixed-tracks/1635155-02/

some other really good tunes on there. that mogrigo 'heavyweight' one is mental.

also i co-sign about dj killer, got loads of his tune off afrodesia, they're wicked. really love 'taxi 2 soweto', proper good trumpet bizniz.

yeah that heavyweight tune really stood out for me, with the pitchbent guitar sample...

also dj storm sounded quite good, more electro-ish with the synths, i think on of the tracks is basically a remix of armand van helden dizzy rascal "bonkers"....

routes
05-01-2011, 11:23 PM
too good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxqTe4KWg5Y&feature=player_embedded#!

baboon2004
06-01-2011, 12:50 AM
http://soundcloud.com/jumpingbackslash/laduma-bangers-mix-for-generation-bass

Dunno if this ever got posted last year....it's doing it for me, anyway.

Edit: The first track, Manyora - A Ke Kwisisi, is just absurdly good. How anyone could not go crazy for this is beyond me, and yet - where the hell can I buy it? Kwaito - still the most exciting music in the world, clearly.

That Dj Killer track is insane too....please, someone, point me towards more kwaito mixes!

mistersloane
06-01-2011, 12:05 PM
http://soundcloud.com/jumpingbackslash/laduma-bangers-mix-for-generation-bass

Dunno if this ever got posted last year....it's doing it for me, anyway.

Edit: The first track, Manyora - A Ke Kwisisi, is just absurdly good. How anyone could not go crazy for this is beyond me, and yet - where the hell can I buy it? Kwaito - still the most exciting music in the world, clearly.

That Dj Killer track is insane too....please, someone, point me towards more kwaito mixes!

Oneworld's got the CD -

http://www.oneworld.co.za/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&products_id=6404

try afrodesiamp as well. Just tried to get on there though and my computer (or the site) won't let me on to check. Good call on that mix.

wise
06-01-2011, 05:29 PM
it's not on afrodesia


buy the cd and rip us a copy ;)

routes
06-01-2011, 05:43 PM
oh fuck yeah that first tune is gooood

rahjustify
22-04-2011, 03:35 PM
<object height="81" width="100%"> <param name="movie" value="http://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ft racks%2F13916870"></param> <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param> <embed allowscriptaccess="always" height="81" src="http://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ft racks%2F13916870" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="100%"></embed> </object> <span><a href="http://soundcloud.com/soundcities/gravemix">DJ SPOKO // GRAVE MIX</a> by <a href="http://soundcloud.com/soundcities">SOUNDTRAVELS</a></span>

20 min mix showcasing 10 unreleased tracks by DJ Spoko.. Check it!!

Don't know if any of you guys have come across Spoko before- he's been active in the Pretoria House scene for a few years now. He hasn't had that much international exposure but he mentored and worked with Mujava helping him make (the now infamous..) Township Funk.

Spoko describes his current sound as 'bacardi house'- in my mind though.. this is proof that he owns the 'township' sound.

Be really interested to see what you guys make of this..

baboon2004
22-04-2011, 03:49 PM
Gonna listen to this now - thanks! Purely out of interest, are you from SA? So difficult to get news of kwaito in Europe.

For eg, Just now realised I missed this (OK, it's last year now, but free drinks too???!?):

http://www.savibes.com/music/music-news/1093-sa-house-music-legend-blackcoffee-in-soho-london.html

Edit: loving the synths on this....

rahjustify
22-04-2011, 10:55 PM
Purely out of interest, are you from SA?

No, Im from london but been living between here and new york. been working with a friend in new york who manages a producer from SA (Nozinja who does the shangaan stuff). It's through that connection that i get any info on things happening in SA- Nozinja is very close to spoko so i've been hearing (and digging) his tracks for a while now.

routes
26-04-2011, 10:47 PM
there is no chance in hell that this (http://www.barbican.org.uk/music/event-detail.asp?ID=12108) will not be fucking sick.

Aww Nein
27-04-2011, 12:51 AM
<object height="81" width="100%"> <param name="movie" value="http://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ft racks%2F13916870"></param> <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param> <embed allowscriptaccess="always" height="81" src="http://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ft racks%2F13916870" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="100%"></embed> </object> <span><a href="http://soundcloud.com/soundcities/gravemix">DJ SPOKO // GRAVE MIX</a> by <a href="http://soundcloud.com/soundcities">SOUNDTRAVELS</a></span>

20 min mix showcasing 10 unreleased tracks by DJ Spoko.. Check it!!

Don't know if any of you guys have come across Spoko before- he's been active in the Pretoria House scene for a few years now. He hasn't had that much international exposure but he mentored and worked with Mujava helping him make (the now infamous..) Township Funk.

Spoko describes his current sound as 'bacardi house'- in my mind though.. this is proof that he owns the 'township' sound.

Be really interested to see what you guys make of this..

preeety good mix...

Sick Boy
27-04-2011, 03:45 AM
there is no chance in hell that this (http://www.barbican.org.uk/music/event-detail.asp?ID=12108) will not be fucking sick.

From that link:

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/IXE6_j1N7o8?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This is sick. Loving the eski/early ruff sqwad accordian sounding synth. Got a kind of soca vibe to it too. Can you call this kind of shit kwaito though? It sounds a lot different from what I'd usually call kwaito.

routes
27-04-2011, 09:09 AM
yeah love that track. not kwaito tho, more just zulu pop music. they call it shangaan.

mistersloane
27-04-2011, 12:14 PM
there is no chance in hell that this (http://www.barbican.org.uk/music/event-detail.asp?ID=12108) will not be fucking sick.

wicked, nice one routes. tickets booked. i am soooo fucking there.

rrrivero
27-04-2011, 12:30 PM
yeah love that track. not kwaito tho, more just zulu pop music. they call it shangaan.yup, there's a thread about it on dissensus as well

http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?10952-shangaan-stuff&highlight=shangaan

That Spoko mix is great btw, last track is sick

routes
05-05-2011, 12:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PT3MfGc_K0&feature=player_embedded

this is pretty funny. Skeleton Magic Bounce are a dance/vibes crew/sound from Joburg.

hopper
06-05-2011, 01:21 AM
anyone come across this one? really strange one, love the tune - but apparently the song was really controversial in south africa... the lyrics supposedly go across the line with misogyny - and the guy was imprisoned for child abuse
<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/FlEkRSq0-Qg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

routes
12-05-2011, 08:58 PM
yeah big tune, it's in this thread about 3 times i think.. dunno about misogyny but a 'sister bettina' is that girl in the club that's been with all the boyz, has a drink and won't take no for an answer etc...

hopper
13-05-2011, 12:11 PM
yeah big tune, it's in this thread about 3 times i think.. dunno about misogyny but a 'sister bettina' is that girl in the club that's been with all the boyz, has a drink and won't take no for an answer etc...

oh shit yeah it is, my bad!

muser
13-05-2011, 01:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUsMmWkJTdg&feature=player_profilepage

hopper
14-05-2011, 01:45 PM
great track muser - never ceases to amaze me how much more honest and appealing all this stuff feels to me than most of what I'm hearing from the UK at the moment.

routes
18-05-2011, 08:21 AM
jeez positiva are releasing ancient SA ghetto house classics?! lol ok then


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHDmzbKJRuI

never much cared for this tune tbh but i do quite like it... sounds to me like they've remixed/mastered it to FUCK tho.

Ory
20-05-2011, 11:15 PM
^interesting. anyone know of any other somewhat recent vinyl releases/reissues? there was that mzo bullet 12" a while back but other than that...?

(kuduro 12" recommendations are also welcome tho this isn't really the thread for it)

slackk
20-05-2011, 11:50 PM
jeez positiva are releasing ancient SA ghetto house classics?! lol ok then


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHDmzbKJRuI

never much cared for this tune tbh but i do quite like it... sounds to me like they've remixed/mastered it to FUCK tho.

that came out in like 2009 you know

very nice press that

NKC
21-05-2011, 12:51 PM
yeh that's a big track..

new jumping back slash tracks out soon are soundin niiice
http://soundcloud.com/jumpingbackslash/kwaai-sneakers-buzz002-preview

denoir
21-05-2011, 07:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxC4Ffzl4Zs

muser
21-05-2011, 11:19 PM
^love that, where is more

muser
21-05-2011, 11:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Blk2nsFCt8I

muser
22-05-2011, 01:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r6C1fnr-8E

muser
22-05-2011, 01:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IBuW7YX-18&feature=related

spooks
26-05-2011, 04:04 PM
seems that Mzekezeke is a well known radio shock jock called DJ Sbu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mzekezeke) <--- wiki

also, check the Soweto dance off on Umlilooooo... ayBO!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPI4E9D1PeM&feature=player_embedded

what is that tune pleeeeeeeease?!?!

mistersloane
26-05-2011, 04:44 PM
It's Big Nuz
<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/JmQMjNbPhMg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

tuuuuuuune

Sectionfive
03-06-2011, 02:41 PM
listening to this in the fine weather

http://soundcloud.com/soulcandi/candi-cast-004-dj-clock

routes
11-06-2011, 05:41 PM
dj call me! lessfuggingooooo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zcrYeyO1vA&feature=related

muser
24-06-2011, 11:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTxTMLUkcOY&feature=channel_video_title

muser
24-06-2011, 11:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1GifsuYX60&feature=related

mistersloane
25-06-2011, 12:36 AM
I wish unknown to the unknown would fuck off with that shit, post up your own tunes with your own fucking advertising if you must. But really. Fuck off.

muser
25-06-2011, 02:19 AM
what gets you angry about it?

muser
25-06-2011, 02:23 AM
to be fair that edit-song was already up on Yt, so not sure why he decied to re-upload just for the sake of putting some quirky picture on it

mistersloane
25-06-2011, 06:45 AM
to be fair that edit-song was already up on Yt, so not sure why he decied to re-upload just for the sake of putting some quirky picture on it

Yeah, for that reason above I don't like it. It's an annoying marketing ploy, and all advertisers should be shot. They've internalised the idea that you should market yourself in all aspects of your life. I think their creative time could be better spent. And I hate the animation, say something if you're going to expend all that energy, do something subversive if you want to create an underground movement. It's saying 'I'm a marketing ploy for myself and I like smoking weed and this one sounded good when I was ponced off my box'.

Oh well done.

zhao
26-06-2011, 10:28 AM
http://cdn03.dayviews.com/61/_u3/_u1/_u8/_u1/_u8/_u4/u3181849/96416_1309383814/ngoma10.jpg

Umlilo means fire in Zulu, and this mix takes us back to the Dirty South for a scorching ride through raw township sound. Exchanging smooth for ruff, Umlilo focuses on the connection between ghetto Rap and current Electro, between modern SA House and its Kwaito roots.

Futurism in Africa never disconnected from the human body: sound design does not become a solipsistic end in itself; song form stays intact through all the warping, bending, stretching and expanding; and the rhythms never bang on without purpose -- robust machine groove is always at the service of booty shake.

Come on mosquito, lets go!

01 Dj Killer - Church Song feat. Chaka Chukwu
02 Big Nuz - Superman
03 Xavatha (Woza Chynaman)DJ Clock ft. Big Nuz, Tzozo & Sox
04 Big Nuz - Ungesabi (remix)
05 Zola - Khokhovula
06 Big Nuz - Izinja feat Tira and Tzozo
07 TKZee - Fella Kae
08 CNDO - Seducer feat. Tira & Big Nuz
09 Mgo - Yes
10 DJ What What - Unknown
11 Unknown - Woza Durban
12 Dj Sbu - Vuvuzela Bafana
13 Dj Vetkuk Vs Mahoota - Cina Feat. Dj Killer
14 Dj Skzi VS Big Dawg - Mbeleke
15 Dj Cleo - Egyptian Drum
16 B.O.P - Bop Killer [Featuring Zulu & Costa]
17 Dj Cleo - Akulalwa
18 Penny Penny & Joe - Nkosi
19 Mafikizolo - Sibongile
20 B.O.P. - Life' Iskorokoro
21 Dj Cleo - Ndizayitya Lemali

SINGLE TRACK VERSION:
http://www.mediafire.com/?gyzq1ffdz0hk28f

SEPARATE TRACKS VERSION:
coming soon

pattycakes
05-07-2011, 11:18 PM
this was in my 'recommended for you' list on youtube

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/v-vrns1WB1k" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

not sure what the deal is with the second track but the main bit is really heavy. and that fat boy sure can dance.

Benny B
05-07-2011, 11:22 PM
zhao I really want to give your mix a listen but the link is deleted.

pattycakes
06-07-2011, 12:06 AM
u can grab it here http://djzhao.official.fm/

nice mix btw zhao

the guy is saying oskido, not mosquito ;p

Ory
06-07-2011, 04:00 PM
<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wmbZrEXUszE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

vinyl soon apparently

zhao
09-07-2011, 05:56 PM
zhao I really want to give your mix a listen but the link is deleted.

sorry about that. changed the link in "new releases" section and forgot to change it here. now fixed in original... and here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?gyzq1ffdz0hk28f

and the official is live too :)

yes someone said on my blog it's Oskido... i rather like Mosquito better :D

routes
31-08-2011, 09:51 PM
dj clock all the day and all the night at the moment


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ_EdvmJjH8

pattycakes
31-08-2011, 10:24 PM
dj clock all the day and all the night at the moment

i bought like 6 or 7 cds when i was in SA, the one thats off was one of them, dope dope dope

hopper
03-09-2011, 01:27 PM
has anyone heard the new culoe de song album?

routes
03-09-2011, 04:46 PM
curious to hear that .. hope being signed to black coffee's label hasn't made him go all boring

btw fyi London people who like banging Londonafroish stuff
http://www.triberecordsuk.com/new/index.php?action=news
(scroll down a bit)

hopper
25-09-2011, 06:26 PM
that Sdunkero tune just came out last week, with this very very catchy auntie flo tune. good release, all about the Sdunkero tune

http://www.honestjons.com/shop.php?pid=39132

baboon2004
12-10-2011, 01:46 PM
http://afrofutures.net/index.php?id=46

nice little collection of vids, obviously some of them well-known

routes
03-12-2011, 07:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BidZmiKAx5U

heh

also, hmmm

mistersloane
04-12-2011, 11:58 PM
heh

also, hmmm

I can see why you're saying hmmm - I think - but, I mean, he's authentic, singing in Khosa or whatver and he can dance, the sound of new generation Capetown, it's pretty good I reckon. I don't think I'd play it, but that's beside the point I guess.

What do you reckon?

trza
05-12-2011, 03:54 PM
The minibus taxis were once important to the spread and distribution of Kwaito music. These are the most common form of public transport in the township areas, taking routes not served by buses or trains. At first each minibus station looks like total chaos, with no signs for destinations just people yelling and loud music. The whole operation is organized by locals, renting taxis by the day and running the routes the locals demand. The whole operation is not just competitive and market based but also clearly efficient.

In the competitive world of minibus taxis, with competition for fares and low profit margins, a good soundsystem can put one taxi above the others. The music videos often feature the same scene of people doing the same dance outside the minibus, and the gets repetitive after years of the same commute.

On the other side of South African society, many middle-class people who don't take a minibus cite the "loud music" as a determining factor.

mistersloane
05-12-2011, 11:35 PM
The minibus taxis were once important to the spread and distribution of Kwaito music. These are the most common form of public transport in the township areas, taking routes not served by buses or trains. At first each minibus station looks like total chaos, with no signs for destinations just people yelling and loud music. The whole operation is organized by locals, renting taxis by the day and running the routes the locals demand. The whole operation is not just competitive and market based but also clearly efficient.

In the competitive world of minibus taxis, with competition for fares and low profit margins, a good soundsystem can put one taxi above the others. The music videos often feature the same scene of people doing the same dance outside the minibus, and the gets repetitive after years of the same commute.

On the other side of South African society, many middle-class people who don't take a minibus cite the "loud music" as a determining factor.

I love the fact that all the minibuses went on strike last year in Joburg, driving really slow and just bringing the city to a standstill. I have a fantasy that they were all played screwed tapes at the same time, but they weren't.

I always like the loudest buses, and prior to this ^^ song, had always been like 'there's the disco bus! let's get on that one!'.

denoir
06-12-2011, 11:14 PM
http://vimeo.com/33206018

rrrivero
05-01-2012, 10:27 AM
Was just going through my followed producers list and found this free sample of DJ Cleo.
https://download.yousendit.com/M3Buc0w5NEhTSURvS3NUQw Indicative of good things to come for 2012

edit: can't thank you enough for that video, denoir

routes
21-01-2012, 07:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jqJL9s0V6iQ#!

EX

i want to go bumble raving in durban..... :)

Blackdown
11-05-2012, 10:11 AM
The Return of Okzharp (http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/return-of-okzharp.html).

BareBones
11-05-2012, 12:31 PM
amazing mix

i wish there was a better online shop than afrodesia to buy this stuff, it's so badly designed and never seems up to date... is there somewhere better?

routes
17-08-2012, 01:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj6lCjdox1M&feature=plcp

zhao
18-08-2012, 03:52 PM
very nice.

zhao
15-09-2012, 03:27 PM
finally going to SA (joburg) next week.

anyone have any requests / a shopping list i can try my best!

though i'll be staying in Soweto with some hip cats of course recommendations for stuff to do and see welcome as well!

mistersloane
15-09-2012, 03:40 PM
finally going to SA (joburg) next week.

anyone have any requests / a shopping list i can try my best!

though i'll be staying in Soweto with some hip cats of course recommendations for stuff to do and see welcome as well!

^^ that Clock is sick

Yay! Congrats Zhao, have a great one. If you come across anyone who knows Hymphatic Thabs and has a copy of his first album Error Era then I'm in your debt forever.

routes
15-09-2012, 04:05 PM
if ur in town go to the 12 decades hotel and check out the different rooms and the gallery there, they have pahtees on the roof there sometimes too.. if ur staying anywhere near Braamfontein there's a place called Kitcheners that generally has good stuff going on.
and get someone to drive u over the Mandela bridge at about 6pm on friday !

mistersloane
15-09-2012, 04:28 PM
I've only been through Soweto and not stayed there but sure there will be plenty plenty to do. I stayed just off 7th Street in Melville which is like kinda hip arty street, nice for a night out but sure you'll have lots of recommendations by people who live there better than me.

Leo
15-09-2012, 07:30 PM
sounds like a blast. curious to hear what it's like, zhao. i sense we sometimes get incorrect reports here regarding safety on the streets, etc. have fun.

zhao
16-09-2012, 12:11 PM
yes super psyched. staying with a bunch of young upstarts who run this fashion/music/culture agency thing out of both Soweto and another neighborhood name of which escapes me... (just told me already bought tickets to Apartheid museum) i think i will get a pretty real experience, and not just move in rich white circles which is i guess what happens to a lot of visitors.

and tour dates are here (http://ngomasound.wordpress.com/2012/09/04/south-africa-tour-part-1/).

sufi
17-09-2012, 04:41 PM
Nice one Z have a brilliant time!

mistersloane
18-09-2012, 11:11 AM
When we stayed there, we stayed in a lady's house, like a boarding house. We asked her what safety was like during the daytime in central Joburg, and she said she didn't know, she'd never been. We went down and hung out, it was fine. Lots of people coming up and telling us to watch ourselves and stuff.

Apartheid Museum is good.

trza
18-09-2012, 03:23 PM
Leave valuables in hotel/hostel, go to minibus station, get in the loudest minibus, don't ask where the minibus is going, pray the minibus doesn't get on the highway.

zhao
27-09-2012, 05:49 PM
photos from the 1st week are here (http://ngomasound.wordpress.com/2012/09/04/south-africa-tour-part-1/).

just got 9 additional bookings... 4 on Saturday alone - afternoon, evening, night, and late night... going to get HEKTIK!!!

yes Apartheid museum was amazing... the PR company i'm staying with, one of the dude's girlfriend's mum is the curator there, amazing stories from her...

did a 15 minute interview on Soweto TV, will be on air this Saturday. also CCTV was here funnily enough, did one with them too. also will be on Channel O's Basement show sometime next week...

tour officially kicks off with first real show tonight BOOM!

mistersloane
28-09-2012, 02:07 AM
photos from the 1st week are here (http://ngomasound.wordpress.com/2012/09/04/south-africa-tour-part-1/).

just got 9 additional bookings... 4 on Saturday alone - afternoon, evening, night, and late night... going to get HEKTIK!!!

yes Apartheid museum was amazing... the PR company i'm staying with, one of the dude's girlfriend's mum is the curator there, amazing stories from her...

did a 15 minute interview on Soweto TV, will be on air this Saturday. also CCTV was here funnily enough, did one with them too. also will be on Channel O's Basement show sometime next week...

tour officially kicks off with first real show tonight BOOM!

You're in your element Zhao, congratulations. I look forward to you moving there! Please play some What What and think of me x

routes
28-09-2012, 10:38 AM
have fun at Panyaza !

zhao
30-09-2012, 03:53 PM
You're in your element Zhao, congratulations. I look forward to you moving there! Please play some What What and think of me x

i do think of you brother! as a few years ago you provided some key inspiration which was partially responsible for set me off on this current musical course... you will receive more SA chooonage after i get back and sort things out (and where there is high speed internet - right now i'm sitting in McDonalds for the 1 hour slow wi-fi lol -- have never eaten so much fast food in my entire life lol) -- been to a couple of shops and picked up a few things already, but will spend at least a day next week and do some proper digging :)

zhao
30-09-2012, 03:53 PM
have fun at Panyaza !

playing there in about an hour! going to drop the Ngoma Ancient Futurist Deep Tribal goodness :D

m99188868
02-10-2012, 08:57 PM
In case this didn't reach SA: boingboing on global bass (& Zhao of Dissensus-fame) (http://boingboing.net/2012/10/02/music-appreciation-global-bas.html).

zhao
11-10-2012, 09:29 AM
just back from the 3 week trip, added more text and more photos and made it into almost a proper post:

http://ngomasound.wordpress.com/2012/09/04/south-africa-tour-part-1/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IYM1j61pFA

it was awesome but i definitely have a new found respect for European general punctuality and professionalism... no horrible experiences but i was just not used to everything being so fluid and subject to change: line-up, time slot, everything can change at the last minute. kinda crazy and stressful for someone not yet used to that particular kind of flow.

mistersloane
11-10-2012, 06:09 PM
just back from the 3 week trip, added more text and more photos and made it into almost a proper post:

http://ngomasound.wordpress.com/2012/09/04/south-africa-tour-part-1/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IYM1j61pFA

it was awesome but i definitely have a new found respect for European general punctuality and professionalism... no horrible experiences but i was just not used to everything being so fluid and subject to change: line-up, time slot, everything can change at the last minute. kinda crazy and stressful for someone not yet used to that particular kind of flow.

haha african time!!! now now!! not now!!

blacktulip
11-10-2012, 07:25 PM
i definitely have a new found respect for European general punctuality and professionalism...

I find this hilarious. :) Did you find the volume of people's speech substantially louder too?

zhao
11-10-2012, 10:30 PM
I find this hilarious. :) Did you find the volume of people's speech substantially louder too?

compared to Germans definitely yes. but that part i'm very used to... grew up in a culture where outsiders always think we are shouting at each other while it's just a discussion on the best time of day to nap.

back to the unprofessionalism:

at the big party at the end of the photos, the dj before me had already put on the last track, and i was about to start, when 2 dudes come up on stage and one of them says "yo how you doing, i'm the booker, thanks for joining us. hey listen this guy is going to play now for 30 minutes, and you take your hour after that, cool?" and i was like "um.... alright" and when this dj who cut in front of me was almost finished the real booker comes up to me and says "why are you not playing?" so i had to cut my set short, but the next dj heard about what happened and started a bit later so my set was only 15 minutes shorter.

this kinda shit. #onlyinafrica lol

oh and that party was supposed to start at 1pm but started at 7 (lol roll eyes), which i guess was reason for tight scheduling (but dude that cut in front was not on the line up at all)

and at another party the booker was totally high and drunk and completely useless... when someone needed to ask him about something he was actually avoiding them heading the other direction lolol

but unprofessionalism has its upsides as well:

soon as i asked for classic Kwaito, manager at Jet Music brings out laptop and flash drive and begins transferring files for me. #onlyinafrica :)

mistersloane
12-10-2012, 01:20 AM
Love the stories Zhao, hate to say it but one of the reasons I stopped doing big DJ gigs in London was precisely that - getting shucked out - I had my time booked - the guys kept on - I said to them politely "when am I playing, you've overrun", - they shrugged their shoulders, I went to the promoter, who was pissed, he reneged all duty. I went to them, scratched their 12 inch off the deck and said "WHAT?"

Wasn't worth the hassle. Never DJ'ed a big ting since.

mistersloane
12-10-2012, 01:21 AM
hashtag onlyinlondon!!! lol

zhao
12-10-2012, 03:38 PM
lol yeah you just can't be a nice guy in those situations.

so anyway i'm hearing about a new strain of house coming out of Pretoria, direct descendants of the more underground sound of the likes of Mujava, which people are calling isigubhu, which just means drum in zulu. too bad didn't make it over there this time.

didn't really have very much luck with music shopping in Joburg... and only went to some big chain outlets, which are basically all there is. i hear the really underground stuff (which in SA kind of sometimes just means stuff that has not made it big yet) are sold in small street vendors but when i went to the street where these vendors supposedly are i did not see a single one after walking up and down. and then someone told me that you can only get that stuff directly from the artists, by writing them or at their gigs... but i did get some very nice "normal" SA deep house, in the percussive tribal vein that i like. if you are interested Sloan i can upload you some.

mistersloane
23-10-2012, 11:44 AM
lol yeah you just can't be a nice guy in those situations.

so anyway i'm hearing about a new strain of house coming out of Pretoria, direct descendants of the more underground sound of the likes of Mujava, which people are calling isigubhu, which just means drum in zulu. too bad didn't make it over there this time.

didn't really have very much luck with music shopping in Joburg... and only went to some big chain outlets, which are basically all there is. i hear the really underground stuff (which in SA kind of sometimes just means stuff that has not made it big yet) are sold in small street vendors but when i went to the street where these vendors supposedly are i did not see a single one after walking up and down. and then someone told me that you can only get that stuff directly from the artists, by writing them or at their gigs... but i did get some very nice "normal" SA deep house, in the percussive tribal vein that i like. if you are interested Sloan i can upload you some.

Pretoria stuff sounds interesting. Yeah man, if there's anything good you think I haven't heard, I'm quite up on it all still though, haven't got this year's releases though.

zhao
25-10-2012, 07:49 AM
Pretoria stuff sounds interesting. Yeah man, if there's anything good you think I haven't heard, I'm quite up on it all still though, haven't got this year's releases though.

send me yo email again to ngomasound gangsta male and i'll wetransfer some shit

zhao
31-10-2012, 04:17 AM
so here is the official report, TIA picked up the story:

http://www.thisisafrica.me/music/detail/19648/DJ-Zhao:-observations-from-South-Africa,-a-nation-still-segregated

and on the same day BBC publishes this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-20138322

zhao
29-11-2012, 06:39 AM
this might be be interesting to some of you:

The Real Roots of Kwaito (http://www.thisisafrica.me/music/detail/19675/The-real-roots-of-Kwaito-and-South-African-house-music)

I'm arguing that SA dance music no longer have much to do with Chicago at all, and people should stop thinking in terms of SA doing "their version of" House Music.


Whenever western publications have written about Kwaito and South African House, the story has almost always been told in terms of a unidirectional migration of House Music from the United States to Africa.

This is problematic because it always omits one central factor, one that's often missing even from the South African voices sometimes interviewed. That central factor is the wealth of Southern African musical traditions that was the real precedent, the main cultural lineage, the Mother (with Chicago perhaps being the Father, which might be an exaggeration) of Kwaito and SA House.

zhao
29-11-2012, 06:40 AM
http://ngomasound.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/drum_ngoma14.jpg?w=584&h=584

If the world is ending soon, lets not waste time on the way to the dance floor. This edition in the Ngoma Mix Series focuses on new 125 bpm African Electronic Dance Music, which may or may not have much to do with what is traditionally known as “House”. Selections come mainly from South Africa and Angola, with lots of percussion, many balafons, a touch of jazz, some diasporic elements from Cuba and Colombia, couple tunes made in Spain, and a shot of Nigerian Pop at the peak. This is the first part, relatively bright in feel: stay tuned for DRUM 2 – the dark side.

STREAM: MIXCLOUD (http://www.mixcloud.com/djzhao/ngoma-14-drum/) //// DOWNLOAD: ZIPPY (http://www15.zippyshare.com/v/46568448/file.html) // MEDIAFIRE (http://www.mediafire.com/?xwdekqr2zzjrjhb)

01 Dj Shimza & Cuebur Ft 340ml – Let The Sunshine (Reprise)
02 Invaders Of Africa – Impi Yamakhanda
03 Culoe De Song – Tsonga Song
04 Pro Tee – Thee Broken Keys
05 Dj Small Jon – Return Of the Drum
06 Black Motion feat. Nqobi – Second Thoughts
07 Dr Ada T feat. Muzaic – Ewe
08 Jason Cheiron – Primal
09 Monocles, Slezz – Umba Kayo (Dj Alpha Kazu Dub)
10 Mbuandje – Mbuandja (Reprise) + Zozo – Totos Dance
11 Pablo Fierro – Agua (Nuevayorkquinas Mix)
12 Pablo Fierro – Sandulivi
13 Kosha Roots – Revival
14 Homeboyz Muzik – Samburu (Jungle Drums Original)
15 Dj Ad feat ZB E PJ – Patagoloza
16 Heavy K feat. Sarah Webster- The Gun Song (A Lesson Twice Learned Edit)
17 Lvovo – Original
18 3G Music – Vagabos
19 Pinto Dos Santos – Ma’e
20 Dj Kapiro & Mad Aksoul – Akanela (Oliver Twist Theme) + Estelle ft. D’banj – Oliver Twist (Remix)
21 Big Nuz – Rockafella
22 Franklin Rodriques – Para Na Wey
23 The Busy Twist – LDN Luanda
24 Dj Satellite & Dj Patrick – Malembe, Malembe
25 Boddhi Satva feat. Mangala Camara – Nankoumandjan (Dekalstrumental Mix)

hopper
29-11-2012, 05:31 PM
great work zhao!

zhao
13-12-2012, 04:58 PM
thanks homie!

routes
01-03-2013, 08:48 PM
https://soundcloud.com/team021-1/independant-woman-skullman-ft

mrfaucet
04-07-2013, 01:06 PM
So now that Afrodesia is no more, where's the best place online to get tunes from SA?

msoes
12-11-2013, 11:01 PM
have been enjoying this
http://www.mixcloud.com/samkelo/south-african-kwaito-house-13/

trza
22-12-2013, 10:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhk52GlkhVA

hucks
22-12-2013, 11:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhk52GlkhVA

That is fucking brilliant

mistersloane
23-12-2013, 11:29 AM
Oh my days. Those boys are SCREAMING. Hurrah for them.

routes
15-01-2014, 08:22 PM
they're called Vintage dance crew, they won best dance crew at the recent SA hiphop awards. they are next level sick. not all their stuff is screaming tho, but there are some amazing afrovogue vids of them, doing crazy shit.

Mafikizolo, tho .. yawn .. they always left me stone cold tbh .. almost as bad as Freshly Ground tbh ..

mistersloane
19-01-2014, 04:40 PM
they're called Vintage dance crew, they won best dance crew at the recent SA hiphop awards. they are next level sick. not all their stuff is screaming tho, but there are some amazing afrovogue vids of them, doing crazy shit.

Mafikizolo, tho .. yawn .. they always left me stone cold tbh .. almost as bad as Freshly Ground tbh ..

Hahaha I'd love to see them butch it up

Yeah Mafikizolo is about the same level as Freshly ground, snorefest. See also Black Coffee for me but I know some people go there.

mistersloane
16-03-2014, 03:04 PM
Anyone know what these two tracks are, Zhao or slowtrain?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OXOCq6W2yU

zhao
16-03-2014, 03:14 PM
Anyone know what these two tracks are, Zhao or slowtrain?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OXOCq6W2yU

little it i can hear sounds good but i've no clue

mistersloane
16-03-2014, 03:18 PM
little it i can hear sounds good but i've no clue

damn. and if you find out who the girls are, I want them at my funeral n all

routes
20-03-2014, 10:18 PM
Anyone know what these two tracks are, Zhao or slowtrain?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OXOCq6W2yU

the first is khona by mafikizolo.. tho it might be a rmx.. not sure about the other two

mistersloane
23-03-2014, 08:55 AM
the first is khona by mafikizolo.. tho it might be a rmx.. not sure about the other two

wicked thanks so much, routes, only listened to that one the once, revisiting now

mistersloane
23-03-2014, 09:18 AM
and from your answer, am now on this playlist, which I'm enjoying very much :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUFju4tnWQ&list=RDnpWF7kvyWc4

mistersloane
23-03-2014, 09:43 AM
This tune : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGset8Etl4o&list=RDnpWF7kvyWc4

routes
30-03-2014, 09:18 PM
yassss .. iStokvela is a complete smasher! Professor is such a fucking g