Woebot
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Read the Neo-Rave thread with relish.
Lots of ideas and opinions skirting around the possibilities of "a new thing".
Gabba Flamenco Crossover and Gek-Opel made some really interesting points
Anyway it got me thinking of my own pet idea, that whatever (eventually) comes cresting over the top of the hill will be musically not-remotely elaborate. It will be a stripping down of the signal to pure electricty. As such it definitely won't be adorned with the ornate references that hipsters like. It will almost certainly be trad, might even (horror of horrors, lol) be, once again, plain ol' ugly rock once more.
The very idea that it will in some way be "progressive" musically is to my mind plainly ludicrous. I suppose this kinda undermines the notion of novelty, but i reckon it will be the sentiments and energy alone that will distinguish it, and distinguish it radically.
Lots of ideas and opinions skirting around the possibilities of "a new thing".
Gabba Flamenco Crossover and Gek-Opel made some really interesting points
Gabba Flamenco Crossover said:That said, it can be a real thrill to see music used in such a functional way, and the auteur side of music production given such short shrift. At free parties, no-one cares who made the track, how old it is, who's playing it, what label released it or any of the other ephemeria we associate with hipster scenes - tunes stand or fall on whether they rock the crowd. I used to produce IDM and abstract electronica, and backed myself into a corner of trying to re-invent the wheel every time I made music. Going to free parties & seeing music used in this way was a vital part of my rehabilitation!
gek-opel said:The problem with indie now is that it has been purged for the most part of some of its more subversive elements... any sense of perversity or progression is missing... most "glam" or "prog" or "post punk" (in the genuine senses of those terms, not merely the aesthetic shells) has been exorcised... its less bad in the US, there are still certain "indie" acts with interesting potential... (Battles, Gang Gang Dance, TV on The Radio...) but these work mainly by engaging with modern technology and influences that aren't indie rock... I'd posit Hot Chip as an example of this kind of thing in the UK, but I know lots of people on this board seem to despise them (was that you Swears, I can't quite recall...?) but they at least are taking an outward looking approach to escaping the indie-aesthetic straight jacket of meat and potatoes rock...
The mainstreaming of certain pop-indie-rock tropes has occurred in this country partly as a result of the backlash around 2001-ish against the previously dominant Dance scene...
There are endless reasons why I suspect we cannot go back... I wrote some screed on this in an email to Mark K-punk a few months back... he put it up here... http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/007342.html
Anyway it got me thinking of my own pet idea, that whatever (eventually) comes cresting over the top of the hill will be musically not-remotely elaborate. It will be a stripping down of the signal to pure electricty. As such it definitely won't be adorned with the ornate references that hipsters like. It will almost certainly be trad, might even (horror of horrors, lol) be, once again, plain ol' ugly rock once more.
The very idea that it will in some way be "progressive" musically is to my mind plainly ludicrous. I suppose this kinda undermines the notion of novelty, but i reckon it will be the sentiments and energy alone that will distinguish it, and distinguish it radically.
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