Catholic adoption centres have said they'll close rather than be bound by the new rules, which will mean that rather than simply not helping gay couples adopt, they won't be helping ANY couples adopt.
Still, I think it was wrong of the papers to have a go at her for putting her (severely disabled) son in a fee-paying specialist school. I think anyone prepared to put political principles or public image before the welfare iof their own kids isn't fit to be a parent.
no, fuck her. the whole point of principles is that you stand by them, not say 'its good enough for you, but not for me'. she was the education secretary who destroyed funding to special schools.
fucking wankers' behaviour.
Is there any evidence that a kid brought up in a traditional mum and dad situation will be more happy and well adjusted?
So basically, I think kids brought up by two people who've made a public commitment to each other - whether they're of opposite or the same sex - have the best start in life.
If she truly believed in state schools then there wouldn't be a problem because she wouldn't have taken her son out. The problem arises because how she acted does not chime with what she professes to believe."No I disagree. It's not her we're talking about, it's her son, and it's not fair for him to be put through a shit school life because of what his mother does or doesn't believe."
I'm not sure but I know that at my school if you had been the kid with two Dads you would have had a terrible time of it. For sure, it would be better if everyone accepted kids with gay parents but I wouldn't like to be the trail-blazer for that acceptance."Is there any evidence that a kid brought up in a traditional mum and dad situation will be more happy and well adjusted?"
I think that's what's going to happen after yesterday/this mornings news. Nobody dares to say it in that language but I reckon it's got to be a good thing."Won't parents who want to adopt kids then be able to go to agencies which are not hampered by bigotry? And consequently increase the resources they have?"
No I disagree. It's not her we're talking about, it's her son, and it's not fair for him to be put through a shit school life because of what his mother does or doesn't believe.
Oh well, that's my daughter knackered then.
"They never married, you know. Said they didn't believe in it, the bastards. Something about not needing the state or church to legitimise their relationship... WELL THAT'S NO GOOD TO ME NOW, IS IT? IS IT? YOU WANT SOME, DO YER?"
what about all the other kids she's failed
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2546579,00.html
are they somehow less important?
Don't be so ridiculous. I'm talking about general trends and statistics, and you give me a single counter-example as if that invalidates the whole argument? I'm sure you're a great dad, but if you look at the stats, which are obviously averaged over millions of families, the set-up that is most likely to be associated with kids growing up into well-adjusted adults is two married parents. Of course there are going to be counter-examples, there always are.
No I disagree. It's not her we're talking about, it's her son, and it's not fair for him to be put through a shit school life because of what his mother does or doesn't believe. She's making a good choice as a parent. It just happens to throw a sharp light on the many terrible choices she made as a cabinet minister, which she's rightly taking flak for. But insisting her son should go without the correct educational care as penence for her uselessness seems a bit medieval to me.
Still, I think it was wrong of the papers to have a go at her for putting her (severely disabled) son in a fee-paying specialist school. I think anyone prepared to put political principles or public image before the welfare iof their own kids isn't fit to be a parent.
Well of course they are - to her.
I'm not trying to justify her decisions as a minister, only her decisions as a parent. As has already been pointed out, why should her son (who is autisitic, I think) suffer just because she's a bad politician?
Talking about married vs. unmarried couples, I guess it just seems that a married couple are more likely to have *chosen* to have kids (or at least, decided to get married when a kid was on its way), compared to an unmarried couple.