For me (in Holland) pop/rock/dance allways mainly has been an interplay between the States and the UK (with Jamaica doing its thing on the side). From the British Invasion, to pyschedelics, hardrock, glam, prog/artrock to punk and new wave/postpunk, Britain was the main mover or the best next thing. For non-dance music in my opinion this ended with The Jesus and Mary Chain, as being the last british guitar band to really make an impression over here (shoegazers never really did reach these shores). But then came dance, and after house and techno being mainly American, the UK came back with a vengeance with rave, jungle, IDM, triphop and big-beat. And then it began to become silent. Speedgarage was the last hype, 2 step had a little scene, and after that (1998) it really became silent, so that's been six years now.
I listen to grime, but i'm a white guy well in his thirties. People buy the streets over here, but they mainly seem to be a sort of rockists who want to keep up with the times and have developed a habit of looking towards the UK. The only people who i've seen asking for dizzee were balding men in their thirties, even forties. What do "the youngsters" listen to? Urban (Rap, R&B, dancehall) Metal (nu-metal, black metal, gothic metal) Trance and Electro(clash). All this stuff is from the states, jamaica or the continent (germany, scandinavia, holland). Grime is seen as funny sounding hiphop with mc's who can't really rap. I looked in the charts, and the only brit i found was Robbie Williams (you can add Bono and his friends to that if you like).
So i can only come to the conclusion that England has lost it's key position in music, and has become just another country, as important (or even less) as say Brasil, Germany or France.
I'm curious to know if anyone has any ideas on this?
I listen to grime, but i'm a white guy well in his thirties. People buy the streets over here, but they mainly seem to be a sort of rockists who want to keep up with the times and have developed a habit of looking towards the UK. The only people who i've seen asking for dizzee were balding men in their thirties, even forties. What do "the youngsters" listen to? Urban (Rap, R&B, dancehall) Metal (nu-metal, black metal, gothic metal) Trance and Electro(clash). All this stuff is from the states, jamaica or the continent (germany, scandinavia, holland). Grime is seen as funny sounding hiphop with mc's who can't really rap. I looked in the charts, and the only brit i found was Robbie Williams (you can add Bono and his friends to that if you like).
So i can only come to the conclusion that England has lost it's key position in music, and has become just another country, as important (or even less) as say Brasil, Germany or France.
I'm curious to know if anyone has any ideas on this?