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rosebeast
12-05-2008, 03:54 PM
I wanna do a freestyle/hi-nrg night in London, but I'm wondering if anyone thinks there are enough people out there who like this stuff to make it work? I've got loads of the music, and I love, love, love it, but I don't hear too much appreciation from people in general. Ideas?

Bang Diddley
12-05-2008, 04:23 PM
loads of love for freestyle on dissensus see 80 thread below.

a friend of mine put on a few nights of freestyle/80's electro groove uuup north a couple of years ago but it only drew in the old heads and folded.

now if it gets mentioned in a 'style' mag with its links to 'electro house' it may draw in a younger crowd and make it more sustainable as a night. hope you do it and it comes though.

apols of over use of quotes.

Gabba Flamenco Crossover
12-05-2008, 04:47 PM
I'm thinking of doing something like this over the summer, but making it a bit more balearic (ie. musically undefined, so we get the freedom to play more of what folks want). But basically 80s post-disco and modern stuff drawing on that era. Maybe putting on a few live acts too. Just getting a pub, doing it afternoon into evening over the summer and seeing if it goes anywhere.

elgato
12-05-2008, 04:59 PM
i would definitely be interested in shaking a leg to this kind of evening!

i think if you wanted to, you could probably appeal to a very large trendy crowd with this kind of stuff with a few sort of crossover bookings. depends what you want to do though, whether you want to keep a purer vibe i guess

rosebeast
14-05-2008, 01:57 AM
yeah, i think i would definitely mix it up abit just because i'm a young guy and i understand that most of the people that i would want to probably come to the night wouldn't have even born when all that stuff was originally taking place. i heard someone play a corina reocrd a few months ago and that was very exciting for me!!!!

Edward
15-05-2008, 06:58 PM
I love freestyle.
A lot of people really hate it though... it can be risky to DJ unless the crowd is expecting it.

Much easier in the USA where everyone knows stuff like Debbie Deb and it's childhood nostalgia. In the UK to the average punter it's cheesy old music but without the warm nostalgia part. (except Shannon which everyone loves)

Anyway..... I like it, maybe you can book me to DJ? :D:cool:

MankyFiver
15-05-2008, 08:01 PM
i'd definitely like some of that
be a nice change, lovely sat or sunday afternoon
poppers, fans

3 Body No Problem
16-05-2008, 11:59 AM
I'd love a Freestyle night in London. I'd do there all the time.

Same with decent cosmic.

3 Body No Problem
27-05-2008, 03:42 PM
I'd love a Freestyle night in London. I'd do there all the time.

I ended up at the Aquarium on this Sunday morning at about 5:30 am, and the Disco Bloodbath (http://http://www.myspace.com/discobloodbathdisco) DJs played quite a bit of freestyle. It was great, but I'm not sure if that's their regular musical fare.

viktorvaughn
27-05-2008, 03:52 PM
I though Hi-NRG was rubbish hard eurohouse popular in certain gay clubs? I am terribly deluded here?

3 Body No Problem
27-05-2008, 03:58 PM
I though Hi-NRG was rubbish hard eurohouse popular in certain gay clubs? I am terribly deluded here?

I don't know. The Aquarium on Saturdays isn't a gay club. Being open till 8am, it's more for the Can't-Sleep massive. They played only early 80s freestyle while I was there, but my memory might be hazy.

Bang Diddley
27-05-2008, 04:09 PM
I though Hi-NRG was rubbish hard eurohouse popular in certain gay clubs? I am terribly deluded here?

Freestyle was mainly made by US hispanics eg Shannon, Mantronix etc and not a lot to do with hi nrg which i guess is the above eg I Dead or Alive 'you spin me round like a record'.

swears
27-05-2008, 04:28 PM
If you play C Bank, they will come.

rosebeast
05-06-2008, 10:58 AM
Oh yes, there would definitely be some C-Bank on the agenda. It's true that Hi-NRG can be terrible, and when I say that I'm mostly thinking of a lot of the 90s stuff which could be categorized as possibly being some of the worst music ever made, but quite a lot of the 80s stuff was really good, and really addictive. I think some people can't get along with it, because it can be so camp. It tends to make italo look somewhat jockish in comparison.

mms
05-06-2008, 09:24 PM
i'm djing at this night my friend shintaro puts on - with my friend jon

edosan above played at the last one..



'Friday, June 20, 2008 at 8:00pm
End Time:
Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 2:00am
Location:
LIFE
Street:
LIFE 2 - 4 Old Street EC1V 9AA
City/Town:
London, United Kingdom
club Pacific Vol. 3
CLUB PACIFIC is Japanese Theme Party that revisits
Tokyo in 1981, when it was still like Shoreditch.

We spin Retro Analogue Robo Disco and 80's Yellow Magic Synth Pops from Japan and electro-funk, disco, house and pop from all over the world.

Early hours (8pm - 11pm) will be Lounge Time, drink, eat good Japanese food and chat away to Moody Exotica, Retro Pop Songs, Film Soundtracks from Japan rarely played out in London.

Your charming hosts are - Shintaro Taketani and Olly Baggot.

Club Pacific vol 3 will host sets from Tom Hirst playing the finest Robo disco - and the Disco consultants aka Marcus Scott and History Clock records' Jon Burnip, making you dance to a mix of electronic disco, funk, pop, italo, cosmic and the bits in between.

bring friends! it's free!'

3 Body No Problem
21-06-2008, 02:36 PM
i'm djing at this night my friend shintaro puts on - with my friend jon edosan above played at the last one.. 'Friday, June 20, 2008 at 8:00pm End Time: Saturday, June 21, 2008 at 2:00am Location:
LIFE

Nice little event. Is this a regular night? Are you playing out elsewhere?

mms
21-06-2008, 03:14 PM
Nice little event. Is this a regular night? Are you playing out elsewhere?

i would if anyone wants me to
it's my friends night i just guested last night.

aaron_shinn
24-06-2008, 08:52 PM
I though Hi-NRG was rubbish hard eurohouse popular in certain gay clubs? I am terribly deluded here?

High NRG and Freestyle both came up around the same time (early-mid 80s). I think of NRG being very close to disco, and very euro-centric. Evelyn Thomas' High Energy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6uVXJ3x2Sk) from '84 is an early hit that kind of put the name on the sound. There's some pretty good info here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi-NRG). I'm definitely no authority on High NRG though - I have traumatic memories from accidently buying an NRG compilation on ZYX records in the early 90s when I was trying to buy UK hardcore...

Freestyle, on the other hand, is almost entirely Latin-American in origin, and commonly fuses a disco-pop vocal style with beats derived from early electro (I'm thinking Cybotron (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VQhBGbU6vM) and Egyptian Lover (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi7IU_Jfzc0) here). The sound was big in New York, but was possibly more popular in Miami and Texas. Miami Bass was popular at the same time and influenced the production of freestyle greatly. Be sure to check Stevie B (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyMh5ZaYRbM), Tina B (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkIwhc21n4o&feature=related), Debbie Deb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFEVMB2qguo&feature=related), C-Bank (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sYpMknvEvE), and of course Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_WZP0LzC4Q).

Can anybody give us a lesson on High NRG with some good links? Would love to know if there's more to the story than Evelyn Thomas...

3 Body No Problem
25-06-2008, 10:10 AM
Freestyle, on the other hand, is almost entirely Latin-American in origin

One thing that I find peculiar is that Freestyle has no obvious latin sound, despite the progeny of its producers. Why is that?

mms
25-06-2008, 10:28 AM
One thing that I find peculiar is that Freestyle has no obvious latin sound, despite the progeny of its producers. Why is that?

yes it does in the way the 808s are played - the melodies and the lyrics are very 'catholic' half the time, very coy female sentiments, i'd say it is quite clearly latin.

3 Body No Problem
25-06-2008, 10:37 AM
yes it does in the way the 808s are played - the melodies and the lyrics are very 'catholic' half the time, very coy female sentiments, i'd say it is quite clearly latin.

I'm happy to agree that the lyrics chime with latin popular culture. But I don't get the rhythmic connection. The structure of syncopation is different. A lot of afro-latin music centres around a clave variant. Freestyle does not seem to anchor its rhythms in the same way.I adore the freestyle drums programming, and I wish I was as good at it as those producers, but it does not sound latin to me at all. I say this as somebody who has spend serious time in South America (Brazil to be sure which has a somewhat different musical tradition in comparison with the rest of that continent), and who's been quite fanatical about about music from that part of the world.

I'd go as far as saying that the Elektro/Freestyle approach to percussion is sui generis, something genuinely new, but I may just not get it.

zhao
25-06-2008, 11:24 AM
too much camp... irony overload... can't breathe... must... get...

out...

of...




thread...




alive.....

mms
25-06-2008, 11:25 AM
I'm happy to agree that the lyrics chime with latin popular culture. But I don't get the rhythmic connection. The structure of syncopation is different. A lot of afro-latin music centres around a clave variant. Freestyle does not seem to anchor its rhythms in the same way.I adore the freestyle drums programming, and I wish I was as good at it as those producers, but it does not sound latin to me at all. I say this as somebody who has spend serious time in South America (Brazil to be sure which has a somewhat different musical tradition in comparison with the rest of that continent), and who's been quite fanatical about about music from that part of the world.

I'd go as far as saying that the Elektro/Freestyle approach to percussion is sui generis, something genuinely new, but I may just not get it.

sure but it's not Latin music per se - it's latin music seen thru the lens of US pop and technology, in the same way that derrick may sounds african, american and futuristic - and for me the melodies are the melodies of latino pop, the same melodies you hear in reggaeton today, kinda sentimental.