PDA

View Full Version : chill out



empty mirror
09-06-2009, 12:50 PM
any chill out recommendations?
preferably early 90s, with samples, space-themed a plus.

been listening to KLF's Chill Out and Space records obsessively, peppering in the first couple Orb albums here and there. looking for more in that vein.

halp!

(i did search the site but that didn't work out)

massrock
09-06-2009, 01:00 PM
You may like some or all of these along those lines, sorry haven't got time to write more right now, sure you can spotify them or something.

Biosphere - Microgravity

Spacetime Continuum - The Sea Biscuit

Legion Of Green Men - Spatial Specific

Irresistible Force - Flying High

mixed_biscuits
09-06-2009, 01:04 PM
Insides - Clear Skin: 38 minutes of slowly morphing repetitive lushness from 1994. Not space-themed, unfortunately. No samples either. Tis probably my fave ambient record, tho'.

Mr. Tea
09-06-2009, 01:09 PM
I would say Future Sound Of London, only a lot of their stuff you could accurately call 'chill out' tends towards New Age whale-song hippy shit, and most of their good stuff is kind of dark and disquieting. I dunno, does chill out have to be 'nice' music?

Well whatever, I still rate Dead Cities as a classic record. There's a couple of dance stompers on it, but it's mostly ambient, much of it very dark, lush, beautiful. Some does indeed sound quite spacey.

massrock
09-06-2009, 01:13 PM
Oh yeah.

Skylab #1

FFWD - FFWD (it's The Orb with Robert Fripp and others)

Air Liquide - Nephology / If There Was No Gravity / Space Brothers

The first couple of Ambient Dub compilations on Beyond Records.

Intergalactic Beats compilation on Planet E

empty mirror
09-06-2009, 01:15 PM
thanks, massrock; i've got a bead on all four of those

that insides release looks difficult to procure---i am on the hunt!

STN
09-06-2009, 01:17 PM
The Insides one is very easily available on CD (are you looking for vinyl?)

For some reason, Eboman just popped into my head, can anyone recall anything about him?

Bang Diddley
09-06-2009, 02:22 PM
I still play Nick Warrens Back to Mine mix sometimes. The first half in particular is brilliant then it goes a bit balearic so to speak but still ok. The Autumn Leaves (rmx) tune is ace but I guess it reminds me of Nat King Cole singing the line from day.

People may diss Go by Moby but its a decent but overplayed tune and here in its downbeat guise it sounds good in the context of the mix.

John Beltrans Transmat release getts an airing and then a bit of Italo.

Worth it imo.

no-nonsense
09-06-2009, 02:23 PM
Some spacey psy-chill:

. The Infinity Project - Mystical Experiences
. The Mystery of the Yeti (I + II) (last track in vol.I is amazing)
. Hallucinogen in Dub
. Shpongle - Are You Shpongled?
. Carbon Based Lifeforms - Hydroponic Garden (pretty much anything on Ultimae)
. Bluetech - Prima Materia

zhao
09-06-2009, 02:59 PM
francisco lopez is a good chill out artist.

Leo
09-06-2009, 03:22 PM
francisco lopez is a good chill out artist.

for example, his "untitled #104"...about 50 minutes of micro-edits of totally insane/extreme metal riffage that is so "tuneless" and relentless that after a while, it blurs into a hypnotic and trancelike din. definitely not the type of chill out originally asked about here, but a different kind of chill out.

massrock
09-06-2009, 03:24 PM
Indeed, it's more like CHILL THE FUCK OUT that one.

massrock
09-06-2009, 03:25 PM
Some more early 90sish things with space samples / atmospheres.

Epique by Thomas Fehlmann off his Flow EP

Sciew Spoc by Gescom.

This (http://www.discogs.com/Code-505-345-675-Delta-9/release/189585) EP by a band called Code.

Some of the Galaxy 2 Galaxy EP on UR.

The ambient mix of Mihon by Ongaku.

The ambient version The Mission by Sequential.

padraig (u.s.)
09-06-2009, 04:33 PM
Some of the Galaxy 2 Galaxy EP on UR.

enthusiastic co-sign. also "Big Stone Lake" off the Nation to Nation EP.

Global Communication - 76:14

Detroit Escalator Company - Soundtrack [313]

Spicelab - a bunch of tracks, especially on the LPs where tracks are like 17 minutes long

padro1982
09-06-2009, 04:56 PM
Spacetime Continuum - The Sea Biscuit



This.

Leo
09-06-2009, 05:03 PM
Global Communication - 76:14

shit yeah, forgot about this, classic stuff. it was recently remastered/reissued as a 2cd set with bonus tracks, anyone have an opinion on if that's worth getting?

also from that time period:

- Rancho Relaxo Allstars -- "Vol. 1, Higiene Mental" and "Vol. II, Live at Luv Parade" (Rancho Relaxo/Disko-B)
- Russ Gabriel -- "Voltage Control" (Input Neuron Musique)
- Repeat -- "Repeats" (A13)
- Burger/Ink -- "Las Vegas" (Harvest)
- The Bionaut -- "Lubricate Your Living Room" comp (Matador)

massrock
09-06-2009, 05:37 PM
Haven't heard the remaster but the stuff on the second CD of the Global Comms reissue is all well picked. Would have mentioned but it seems so ubiquitous I would hope empty mirror already has it! The Chapterhouse remix album they did is nice too.

Bang Diddley
10-06-2009, 10:38 AM
Detroit Escalator Company - Black Buildings

Chillout without being ambient.


Edit : Oh Bladerunner OST - its even got rain samples : )

empty mirror
10-06-2009, 11:23 AM
really fantastic recommendations in this thread.

i checked out that irresistable force and the global communication albums and both are exactly what i have been looking for. i don't know how those passed me by.

the insides album was never issued in the US, by the looks of it. only available as an expensive import, from a lone Israeli eBayer, or by purchasing from 4AD direct (i fear VAT). reluctant to spend $20+ USD on 38 minutes, but may just have to bite the bullet. i've read it described as reich x. riley----that's a great recipe...

been meaning to get that Vangelis Bladerunner OST but never have gotten around to it!

massrock
10-06-2009, 11:37 AM
really fantastic recommendations in this thread.

i checked out that irresistable force and the global communication albums and both are exactly what i have been looking for. i don't know how those passed me by.
Cool.

If that's the vibe you might want to hunt down Mixmaster Morris (Irresistible Force) sets from around that time.

There's a few here - http://mixmaster.morris.googlepages.com/mmmdjmixes

Like this - Mixmag CD Mix (http://www.junglecats.org/music/mmm/MMM_MixmagCD.mp3)

And on archive.org.

http://www.archive.org/details/mcastMixmasterMorris
http://www.archive.org/details/mcastMixmasterMorris_0
http://www.archive.org/details/mcastMixmasterMorris_1

Also Kiss FM 1995 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8ZKK6MCE)

Haven't checked them all out but some should be good. Check the Dreamfish albums as well.

Flying High is a sampling tour de force. Way ahead of Endtroducing. I still come across stuff every now and then and realise that's what he sampled on it. Lots of avant garde electronics, concrete, obscure prog and kosmische stuff.

padraig (u.s.)
10-06-2009, 11:38 AM
i checked out that irresistable force and the global communication albums and both are exactly what i have been looking for. i don't know how those passed me by.

Global Communication are kinda like the Todd Osborn of the 90s - whatever genre they touched turned to gold. 76:14 kills the early 90s ambient business, they also did amazing deep house records, electro, acid techno, you name it really. they even have an astoundingly fabulous ambient jungle 12" on Good Looking as Chameleon.


been meaning to get that Vangelis Bladerunner OST but never have gotten around to it!

things is there's like 4 or 5 versions of it - make you sure you get the Esper version, that's the most complete I think.

also makes me think;

Tangerine Dream - Zeit, Phaedra, probably more but those are the only ones I'm familiar with

E2-E4

& can't believe no one's mentioned Pete Namlook yet - I've no idea which records specifically but surely someone else does?

massrock
10-06-2009, 11:51 AM
Namlook - yikes ;)

I stopped paying attention after a certain point. Some of the early ones are good -

Silence definitely.

Air I at least. Maybe II.

Dark Side of The Moog with Klaus Schultze. They went on to do like five volumes of this.

The aforementioned Dreamfish albums with Mixmaster Morris.

The first 3 or 4 Ambient comps.

Other things on Fax -

Tetsu Inoue - Ambiant Otaku is teh classic deep chill.

Sad World.

Will have to look at the discography to jog my memory. I sold quite a few of these CDs for stupid (i.e. lots) amounts of money. People go crazy collecting this shit.

zhao
10-06-2009, 11:53 AM
for example, his "untitled #104"...about 50 minutes of micro-edits of totally insane/extreme metal riffage that is so "tuneless" and relentless that after a while, it blurs into a hypnotic and trancelike din. definitely not the type of chill out originally asked about here, but a different kind of chill out.

i was being sarky with the francisco lopez...

most of that 90s ambient aged HORRIBLY (irresistable force, etc), and then there's the stuff that was never any good to begin with.

my favorite from back then was Tesu Inoue's first one, "World Receiver", which was really beautiful (before he went all digi-mind fuck unlistenable).

just saw massrock recommending Ambient Otaku... i know it's really rated but i've never understood why. it's nice but by FAR the inferior record compared to World Receiver, which is so lush and full of ideas but a lot more quiet and uses a lot less cliche sounds.

Bang Diddley
10-06-2009, 11:55 AM
The Namlook/Hawtin From Within Series is pretty good. Ive not listened to it for many years tho. Acid lines, lots of immersive bass and subtle drum/synth programming.

massrock
10-06-2009, 11:58 AM
most of that 90s ambient aged HORRIBLY (irresistable force, etc),
I don't know. I've thought this at times, had some massive righteous purges of that stuff but it's also something I come back to from time to time. Became overly maligned too quickly I think.

The Namlook/Hawtin From Within Series is pretty good. Ive not listened to it for many years tho. Acid lines, lots of immersive bass and subtle drum/synth programming.
Good call, at least a couple of tracks anyway.

zhao
10-06-2009, 11:58 AM
there is only one piece of Orb music i want to listen to again: that live, like 20 minute version of Assassin. which album is it off of? or was it a remix version on the Auntie Aubrey turtles cover comp?

Bang Diddley
10-06-2009, 12:00 PM
If you like that immersive pulsing bass ambience then would be a good rec. . .

http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?t=7870&highlight=fern

massrock
10-06-2009, 12:00 PM
iWorld Receiver, which is so lush and full of ideas but a lot more quiet and uses a lot less cliche sounds.
Don't know that actually. I'm not recommending as such, just talking about what are the big records in that area. Like you say it is rated. I sold mine before it was reissued. 75 for a CD? Ok, it's all yours.

empty mirror
10-06-2009, 12:02 PM
yeah, i am on top of the tangerine dream/klaus shultze/harmonia/cluster/eno/fripp end of things

i guess they sort of occluded my view of the early 90s torchbearers

massrock
10-06-2009, 12:03 PM
Why do you think it's aged badly Zhao?

Well of course there is lots that wasn't very good to begin with to be fair.

The ambient techno side of things was also part of 90s 'chill out'. B12, Black Dog, Autechre, As One, ART, Irdial, Reflective...

Can I just say the first two links on archive.org I just posted above are probably the absolute definition of early 90s ambience, even though there's a lot of 70s records in the mix.

massrock
10-06-2009, 12:11 PM
E2-E4
On the right days New Age Of Earth is really great too. Maybe even better actually.

zhao
10-06-2009, 12:37 PM
Why do you think it's aged badly Zhao?

why does anything age badly... over indulgence in trendy formulas, lack of actual musical content or ideas, etc. etc... and also maybe i listened to that stuff to death coming down from ecstasy or speed in my highschool and early uni days...

that KLF record with the sheep on the cover... what the fuck was the buzz about? it is lame, lame, lame.

there was one Axiom Ambient 2CD, maybe the first one or second one, with a bunch of different artists on it, that was surprisingly good (maybe because Laswell didn't make most of the tracks.

massrock
10-06-2009, 12:43 PM
Yeah true, there's certainly a contextual aspect to why some of it worked. But good ambient music still stands up, or er, lies down ;)

I edited my post to mention the more techno side of things which I think people feel more comfortable with now because it's more 'stylish' or something. There wasn't so much of a distinction at the time, all that stuff was mixed up. Even then I think things like B12 can come across as quite blandly anodyne.

Funny how The Orb went out of favour so quickly. The Orb and KLF were always slightly more ironic and arch than a lot of chill out practitioners though.

-

The thread started out on a space / samples tip but I remember Life Before Land by Another Fine Day as being a really nice bucolic / idyllic chill out record. Another one on Beyond.

Oh, one more spacey thing - Dr. Motte's Euphorhythm - Chill Out Planet Earth (http://www.discogs.com/Dr-Mottos-Euphorhythm-Chill-Out-Planet-Earth/release/60587).

massrock
10-06-2009, 01:31 PM
Tune at about 26 minutes anyone?

http://www.archive.org/details/mcastMixmasterMorris_0

Derrick May, Carl Craig? The one before Blue Calx.

slim jenkins
10-06-2009, 02:57 PM
Songs Of A Dead Dreamer - DJ Spooky

and under his own name, Paul D. Miller: Viral Sonata

Lichen
10-06-2009, 02:59 PM
You chill out.

slye
10-06-2009, 03:47 PM
Tune at about 26 minutes anyone?

http://www.archive.org/details/mcastMixmasterMorris_0

Derrick May, Carl Craig? The one before Blue Calx.

Yeah it's Carl Craig.

Psyche - Neurotic Behavior

massrock
10-06-2009, 03:52 PM
*Kicks self again for selling the Objects D'Art 4LP set*

Thanks slye.

massrock
10-06-2009, 03:59 PM
Reminds me I came across this on youtube earlier looking for something else.

As One - Shambala (Reflected By Balil) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2H0JyMmC0I&fmt=18)

oswellm
10-06-2009, 06:16 PM
If you like the already-and-thoroughly-well-recommended Ambiant Otaku, I strongly recommend "Mu" by Masters of Psychedelic Ambiance, a collaboration between Inoue and Uwe Schmidt that also came out on Rather Interesting around the same time.

Lots of snippets of Japanese radio noises and synthetic textures. Mmmm..

droid
10-06-2009, 07:18 PM
& can't believe no one's mentioned Pete Namlook yet - I've no idea which records specifically but surely someone else does?

The definitive ambient collections on rising high - esp. pt. 2.

massrock
10-06-2009, 07:30 PM
Speaking of Rising High, Bedouin Ascent should get a mention. It's quite straight ahead compared to his later stuff but I really like the Reconnect The Thread 12".

henry s
12-06-2009, 05:18 PM
well, if we're still talking about Rising High, let's also talk about Dreamfish, the Pete Namlook/Mixmaster Morris collaboration...

one of the great original chillout records was Terry Riley's A Rainbow In Curved Air...also, Steve Hillage's Rainbow Dome Musick and Virgina Astley's From Gardens Where We Feel Secure...

The Necks also deserve to be mentioned in chillout discussions...Aether, Drive-By, Hanging Gardens, I could listen to these all day...

craner
12-06-2009, 05:56 PM
I hate all this stuff, but KLF's Chill Out is certainly beautiful - but inexpicably. It ought to be awful, and, by now, unlistenable, and yet it remains heartstopping. I mean, 'Albatross' and 'In the Ghetto' and those swirling pop-corn synths and everything else loosely stitched together...it's almost accidentally lovely, and it really shouldn't be. I suppose, though, with your heart doing loops, it is a little bit more than 'chill out'.

craner
12-06-2009, 06:07 PM
I suppose you could make a case for the spooky stature of The Orb's 'A Huge Evergrowing Pulsating Brain That Rules From the Centre of the Ultraworld' (in which Minnie Riperton is crushed to death by some solemn slabs of rough synth...) The stark poignancy, the dusk-beauty, of this pissed away by that fucking title. I hated The Orb for this. I really, really hated them for it.

Tentative Andy
12-06-2009, 06:13 PM
I suppose you could make a case for spooky stature of The Orb's 'A Huge Evergrowing Pulsating Brain That Rules From the Centre of the Ultraworld' (in which Minnie Riperton is crushed to death by solemn slabs of rough synth...)

Yes, the intro to that always had a very unsettling quality to me, the way the Ripperton melody is totally torn away from its original context and just left hanging. Especially when you get to those descending wordless screams....
Mind you, I think the version I know best of the tune is an Orbital remix, maybe it comes over differently on others.

Tentative Andy
12-06-2009, 06:16 PM
Here we go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7YQ1oAAJn8

Starts off more chill-yer-bones than chill-out I reckon...

craner
12-06-2009, 10:10 PM
Or that one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpO_x0CHfoU&feature=related)

craner
13-06-2009, 04:28 PM
Bandulu, 'Phaze In-Version': play that one loud and you will not be chilling out.

craner
13-06-2009, 04:28 PM
There is a very small pool of ambient techno that is at all acceptable, and Aphex Twin made most of it.

scottdisco
13-06-2009, 04:33 PM
went through a big Boards of Canada phase some years ago, but then junked them TBH.

i have never knowingly heard Pete Namlook.

padraig (u.s.)
13-06-2009, 04:55 PM
There is a very small pool of ambient techno that is at all acceptable, and Aphex Twin made most of it.

nah bollocks.

it depends if you mean ambient techno or Ambient Techno. cos for the latter that statement isn't (too) far off.

but there is plenty of fantastic techno which is also ambient, or vice versa;

various Basic Channel (& Chain Reaction), Gas, Detroit Escalator Co....

four_five_one
13-06-2009, 05:01 PM
but there is plenty of fantastic techno which is also ambient, or vice versa;

various Basic Channel (& Chain Reaction), Gas, Detroit Escalator Co....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AozNSx-Xszk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kvaCY4te-g (This is one of the best)

Has Yagya been mentioned yet?

craner
13-06-2009, 05:02 PM
it depends if you mean ambient techno or Ambient Techno

Oh bloody hell, I don't know.

(Backs away from thread...)

empty mirror
13-06-2009, 07:04 PM
There is a very small pool of ambient techno that is at all acceptable, and Aphex Twin made most of it.

been listening to a lot of the selected ambient works (85 - ??) lately
really like the cat-scratched analog bedroom music sound he was crafting early on

analog ambient is where it's at


went through a big Boards of Canada phase some years ago, but then junked them TBH.
i can listen to any of the skam stuff any time of day and i never tire of it
still love music has a right to children and to a lesser extent that "a beautiful place" and "Trans Canada Hwy"
i'm not mad at campfire headphase, but it is hard to feel any way about it

mostly though when i am in a BoC mood i will likely put on christ.

i like that ambiant otaku album rec'd earlier in the thread

glottis5
17-06-2009, 07:33 AM
Has Yagya been mentioned yet?
Eww, too new agey.

That Chain Reaction stuff is excellent, though

michael
17-06-2009, 09:14 AM
It's quite weird reading this thread and being quite into a lot of the stuff being recommended here at the time it came out... cos, yeah, mostly it all seems quite awful now.

The only thing mentioned here beyond the initial post that I still like is 'Skylab #1'. Like 'Chill Out', it seems almost accidentally great. Certainly Skylab's subsequent releases (likewise any of its members - fucking Howie B!? Tosh & Kudo, much as I like some Major Force...) suggest it was some weird combo of circumstances that made it happen.

massrock
23-06-2009, 09:48 AM
One more for the OP.

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/sTaJBnQ5XbQ&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/sTaJBnQ5XbQ&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>