scottdisco

rip this joint please
i like Daniel's, although Dominic's third to sixth lines are almost immediately appealing. "twisted rafters" is good too, moving into the pews.

heck this is too much like Pop Idol; i abstain. both better than i could do.

but the use of brackets is very appealing.

Jenks and Craner are on it.
 

luka

Well-known member
i mean, i know why, you think your pursuits are 'harder' require greater feats of concentration, greater sacrifices. im not convinced.
 

luka

Well-known member
i got a gold star at primary school for writing 'twisted rafters.'
or was it 'overstuffed sofa'
i forget
 

luka

Well-known member
i mean, im having a few beers and geting carried away but im sick of this....
you're not special cos you read philosphy.
you're not better than me or anyone else who does what i do at the level i do it.
fuck that.
 

scottdisco

rip this joint please
sardonic, untractable

that's good. i also think Poetix should be saluted for the even nature of his replies, given all the opposition he has come up against.

twisted rafters is good to say. different accents, yours would sound different to mine or Vimothy's, which would be different from Nomad, who would be different from Andy. (these four mentioned as i know what you sound like and where you are from. well not in the case of Andy or Nomad but i know where they're from and are taking an educated guess.)

i use brackets as mannerism too much, TBH, on my main blog, but then that blog is almost wholly concerned with African politics and conflict zones and looks toward a deliberately obtuse language of the politics of violence
 

luka

Well-known member
im quite pleased with my interjection into this thread. i think it adds a great deal to the debate. and lets face it, if any of you met me in real life, you wouldn't try and say nothing bad to my face. so just accept the pronouncements.
 

luka

Well-known member
im not anti dr-fox.i just don't like this lazy dismissal of artistes that has no understanding of what they do and how they came into existance.
 

poetix

we murder to dissect
i don't approve of this thing that kpunk and poetix are promulgating
that creative people are thick and useless

I did write a book, you know. Badiou isn't mentioned in it once. There's a chapter on Hopkins, one on Coleridge, one on black metal. No maths. It is also, in its own way, a straitening - pulling things together, seeing what holds and what falls out. I don't know quite how I feel about the finished result, but it's there and it has its own independent reality now.

Polemics against "creatives" shouldn't be mistaken for hatred of creativity, and are not necessarily a mask for personal creative incapacity. Scorn for the cultural by-products of trust-funded bohemia, which have no emotional rigor let alone formal intensity, goes hand in hand with love for the real thing, wherever you can find it, and whether or not you're capable of making it yourself.

I'm not anti-luka. I think he's our William Blake, more or less.
 

scottdisco

rip this joint please
bravo Poetix, a welcome statement of intent.

who has written for Zero, anyone else i would know?

you, Owen, Stubbs, Mark has that one forthcoming, anybody else?

ta.
 

vimothy

yurp
The IDF will not use any of Badiou's works. They are not weapons. I would love to speak with some of the soliders who were actually exposed to D&G's work.

I like Eyal Weizman as much as the next man, but the IDF's use of D&G is totally superficial. What they do in Gaza is urban manoeuvre warfare, but military theorists like to use the same dumb-ass language as everyone else in academia. Clifford Geertz was on the same reading list. How come no one ever mentions him?
 

josef k.

Dangerous Mystagogue
Scorn... goes hand in hand with love for the real thing...

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josef k.

Dangerous Mystagogue
it's a bunch of guys who think they can make some money harnessing the marketing potential of blogs + a group of people looking to increase their status and/or overthrow the despotism/hedonism/sophism/revanchism/conservativism of contemporary late-capitalist neo-liberal post-modernist thought/society by means of philosophically-anchored polemics directed against miscellaneous bad things, in the name of miscellaneous good things.
 
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