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martin

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Bang Diddley said:
The politics of some of this is off putting to me to be honest.
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To be fair, this is a small minority of dickheads messing it up for everyone else - fortunately the perpetrators happen to be rubbish bands anyway, so you don't need to go near them.

Actually, I don't think DiJ deserve the industrial tag anyway - more like 4th rate goth! As for Kevin 'Widow Twanky' Tomkins, he's so feeble he's not even worth slagging off.

TG, SPK, Coil, Nocturnal Emissions, Foetus, Cab Voltaire and PTV are all free of this crap.
 
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martin

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Oh - have to say, despite the fact the guy was a prat with a completely myopic view of Middle Eastern politics, I think the Muslimgauze 'Farouk Enjineer' album's well worth a listen, 'New Iraq' and 'Jaalor' sound great. Well, to my tone deaf lugs anyway.
 
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Client Eastwood

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martin said:
To be fair, this is a small minority of dickheads messing it up for everyone else - fortunately the perpetrators happen to be rubbish bands anyway, so you don't need to go near them.

Actually, I don't think DiJ deserve the industrial tag anyway - more like 4th rate goth! As for Kevin 'Widow Twanky' Tomkins, he's so feeble he's not even worth slagging off.

TG, SPK, Coil, Nocturnal Emissions, Foetus, Cab Voltaire and PTV are all free of this crap.
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Thanks for the clarification martin.
 
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BSquires

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Fascinating thread - I've recently been filling some gaps in my collection and can go with most of the recommendations here. A few points crossed my mind as I read it:

1) One interesting thing about a number of the decent groups here is that they can be quite electic. A lot of these groups have both beat-heavy, noisy recordings and also ambient releases, and loads of them... can make buying the recordings a little hit and miss, or at least 'exciting'...

2) What no love for Lustmord? - is that a pun, I'm too stupid to know - the absolute master of dark ambient - SPK connections and ran Side Effects for some time. 'The Monstrous Soul' and 'Heresy' are both worth owning. In fact most of the stuff is excellent, although some of the sounds do get recycled a little bit more recently... oh and avoid the ones with guitars on.

3) Especially keen on Laibach - their discography is surprsing varied, with some great neo-classical stuff in with the banging tunes... avoid the heavy metal bit in the middle though...

4) There is a vast sea of dross available marked 'industrial' - but the best stuff is about my favourite music at the moment.

5) Neo-folk is generally awful and is the martial industrial stuff that isn't Laibach - it is so weak sounding and insular. They all sound like they live at home with their mums. Scott Walker - who appears to be an influence on Death in June amongst others - is far more interesting and 'industrial' now than 99% of that rubbish...

I'll shut up now...
 
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polystyle

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Martin , you cracked me up with your comment about Industrial and the Old Testament !
One can still find "SPK live at Danceteria' online floating around.:D

Tea , yes, 'post - Industrial'.

Also yes, Muslim Gauze ( RIP ) had their time.
Esplendor Geometrico on that fringe too ? not quite 'Industrial' , but fine in their gritty noise way.

Test Dept. They were right there and pretty early on, metallic and kicking to kill.

Lustmord , for my part they got a bit shuffled into the in between area where one notices and duly notes -but didn't quite make time for.

Laibach , did have their time and their uses -the shows were trying for 'spectacle' ,
they could roc and we didn't mind when they had at both Beatles and Stones.

Tim Hecker - great, listening alot to him these days.

Yeah, can look back on playing with White House as a bit of a joke one time experience -for all the reported 'bite' , it was just another soundcheck.

Laughing at the Boyd Rice story, the sound was quite a bit to take live',
and no one -or not many noticed the man behind the noise .

But ENB ( also 'Old Testament' I can guess ) were also good people in their time,
can't rate them by now without so many key , core members.

SPK were fun too- until they split up in our Apt. on LES at end of their tour and commenced battling ...
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Anyone here into The Young Gods at all? They're one of many bands I'd categorise as having been influenced by industrial rather than being an industrial band per se. I've got a couple of their records which are pretty interesting...including their debut which has a rather good cover of a Gary Glitter (!) song on it. Said to have been among the pioneers of sample-based music (meaning music pre-arranged and then played live on a sampler, I guess - of course TG were messing about with 'found sounds' back in '77).
 
john eden

john eden

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Mr. Tea said:
Anyone here into The Young Gods at all? They're one of many bands I'd categorise as having been influenced by industrial rather than being an industrial band per se. I've got a couple of their records which are pretty interesting...including their debut which has a rather good cover of a Gary Glitter (!) song on it. Said to have been among the pioneers of sample-based music (meaning music pre-arranged and then played live on a sampler, I guess - of course TG were messing about with 'found sounds' back in '77).
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Yeah that self-titled album is great. Saw them live at SOAS (in '89 with Silverfish)and they were pretty cool, bit stadium in places.
 
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polystyle

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Envoye !

Young Gods, of course great !
We've gone over them at least a couple times here.
They were one of the first to swap guitar ( Franz does play g ) for sampler as 'lead' sound.
Old friends, got onto Interscope at one point, fell out with their manager, regrouped and have been carrying on since .
Not so enthralled the last releases tho' , but that might just be me.
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polystyle

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Tim Hecker

Re: Harmony In Ultraviolet
and latest Imaginary Country ...

In the earlier releases one can hear what Tim is aiming for,
and by Harmony and esp. Imaginary Country he's there.
Esp. Imaginary can recommend for anyone into Fennesz' Black Sea or Konpakt's Pop Ambient '09 drift music.
Hecker's Shosts In Silver from Pop Ambient is very nice and feels of a zeitgeist moment for this music.
 
STN

STN

sou'wester
Can anyone think of a lamer title for an album than 'Swastikas for Noddy'? I don't mean politically at all, I just can't imagine a more arrant example of something you might come up with in your year 8 maths class for a joke.
 
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Martin Dust

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STN said:
Can anyone think of a lamer title for an album than 'Swastikas for Noddy'? I don't mean politically at all, I just can't imagine a more arrant example of something you might come up with in your year 8 maths class for a joke.
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He was on acid, man, and Noddy did have a history with swastikas.
 
Leo

Leo

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polystyle desu said:
Tim Hecker

Re: Harmony In Ultraviolet
and latest Imaginary Country ...

In the earlier releases one can hear what Tim is aiming for,
and by Harmony and esp. Imaginary Country he's there.
Esp. Imaginary can recommend for anyone into Fennesz' Black Sea or Konpakt's Pop Ambient '09 drift music.
Hecker's Shosts In Silver from Pop Ambient is very nice and feels of a zeitgeist moment for this music.
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thanks, polystyle. i'll have to throw on pop ambient 2009 now, forgot he was on there.
 
Leo

Leo

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can anyone explain the significance of the masks that douglas p often wears on recent DiJ releases? what's that all about?
 
john eden

john eden

male pale and stale
Leo said:
can anyone explain the significance of the masks that douglas p often wears on recent DiJ releases? what's that all about?
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Yeah he's getting old and wrinkly.

Actually, he's always used masks I think - certainly was in the 80s.
 
john eden

john eden

male pale and stale
martin said:
"A Penis Tense Not Penitence" is probably the lamest ever. Thanks for that, Nails Ov Christ.
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Yeah some of those Con-Dom and Grey Wolves flyers were proper stupid. All these quasi fascist "noise units" from Belgium and compilations called things like

"Total Annihilating Force volume 8" (in block capitals typed on a typewriter REALLY HARD to make it look EXTRA BLACK.)

There were some brilliant pisstakes of them now I come to think of it.
 
john eden

john eden

male pale and stale
Speaking of which I was trying to find that mad Current 93 cartoon with Noddy crucified and a load of sinister goblins leering at him, but I found this instead:

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Artist: Current 93
Title: God Bothering
Label: Beta-lactam Ring
Format: LP
Catalog #: BlRR00666$
Condition: post-agnostic
Price: $666


Description:
Special Unlimited Edition of LPs pressed in coloured vinyl that is the exact shade of brown as the ponies on the lid of Dave's favourite biscuit tin. Each album comes with a specially created sigil made from crumpled roach papers, sperm collected from the used condoms on Hastings beach, and hair and nail clippings from the fat bloke who plays the guitar on this one - there's plenty of it, too, as he grooms himself thoroughly every saturday before setting of for Slimelight. [...]

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http://blrrrecords.com/index.html#current93
 
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