Industrial Music

martin

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Suddenly, only lasted to the dog with the nosering in front of the swastikas before I literally dissolved in tears. Still at work. You bastard.

Buy whoever put that site together a pint.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
Suddenly, only lasted to the dog with the nosering in front of the swastikas before I literally dissolved in tears. Still at work. You bastard.

Buy whoever put that site together a pint.

Yeah it's that and the "Synthetic Meat Circus" one, Class.

Seems like they just ripped off the graphics from this site too and shoved another "r" in the url... :D

http://www.blrrecords.com/
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Bwuhahaha! :D

This reminds me of something I thought of yonks ago, namely: The Mr. Tea 'Industrial Bands Have The Best (for certain values of 'Best') Names' Quiz.

See if you can tell which of these are names of real industrial/EBM/terrorpowernoisecore bands:

  • Kevorkian Death Cycle
  • Binary Dementia Complex
  • Signal/Noise Ratio
  • Velvet Acid Christ
  • Imperative Reaction
  • Cyanic Sex Division
  • Dachau Factor

Oi! No googling!
 
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mms

sometimes
Speaking of which I was trying to find that mad Current 93 cartoon with Noddy crucified and a load of sinister goblins leering at him, but I found this instead:

cov_god.jpg


Artist: Current 93
Title: God Bothering
Label: Beta-lactam Ring
Format: LP
Catalog #: BlRR00666$
Condition: post-agnostic
Price: $666



Description:
Special Unlimited Edition of LPs pressed in coloured vinyl that is the exact shade of brown as the ponies on the lid of Dave's favourite biscuit tin. Each album comes with a specially created sigil made from crumpled roach papers, sperm collected from the used condoms on Hastings beach, and hair and nail clippings from the fat bloke who plays the guitar on this one - there's plenty of it, too, as he grooms himself thoroughly every saturday before setting of for Slimelight. [...]

continues here:

http://blrrrecords.com/index.html#current93


cor that's so close to the actual site it almost has me confused
http://www.blrrecords.com/

that is funny as fuck.
 

Diggedy Derek

Stray Dog
Cor, that blrrrecords site is absolutely extraordinary. " a leather patch with a geometric symbol that will scare the wits out of asian pensioners if you wear it on the streets of Southall or Brick Lane." Haha. Briliantly written. I guess by someone whose cheque was cashed but the order never fulfilled or something.

Great thread, this. To pitch in first with some recommendations: Marc Almond did a great track with Current 93 on their Black Ships Ate The Sky album. It's incredible. I implore you to listen to it:


Current 93 were never much to my taste but the album mentioned above really changed my head around, although I prefer the guest vocalists to David Tibet's vocals. They've just released another album, which I didn't enjoy much though.

Regarding the moral issue, at one point recently I was researching some of the more hardcore power electronics/industrial type artists to see if there were any dodgy political connections to see if any areas I should avoid writing about/covering. It's easy to find horrible stuff, unsurprisingly- Sleep Chamber? Urghhh, sickening. But you always seem to find the same justification, "it's posing questions and issues, shaking you out of your received opinions, it's not supporting killing jews". A kind of meta-justification really, turning the issue of what it means back on the listener. Problem is, some artists who I think are pretty much OK – including Whitehouse –*use very similar justifications. With Whitehouse, I really do think the bombard of sexual/power imagery with them is intended to shake you out of socialised behaviours.

So it's tricky. (I should point out I haven't explored Whitehouse thoroughly)

The idea of 'industrial' seems an elegantly flexible one to me. Sure, industries were closing down, but the idea seems more about how rigid patterns of behaviour, social hierarchies and, of course, technology has affected human behaviour. It's obvious that Nazism would be an issue broached in this context – and justifiably so. So you don't need to be banging bits of metal or anything. Industrial is an idea as much as a practice, I guess. That said, Current 93 do seem more some neo/gothic folk sort of thing, which seems a whole different kettle of weird fish.

I like the way TG have overturned expectations by being soft, fluid and musically approachable since they've come back. That was the last thing people would have expected. Nicely done.

Weren't Coil an influence on Autechre? Dunno where I heard that...

Anyway, hope this thread carries on.
 

Diggedy Derek

Stray Dog
Ha, forgot to even mention the point I had originally intended to.

Nurse With Wound seem like straight surrealists to me, their music is so odd and personal and jokey. A lot of it is good –*I really, really rate Soliloqy For Lilith. It's a very long drone piece, really beautiful.

However, reminded by the BLRRRecords site, I do think NWW in particular test the patience of their fan base with so many releases, rereleases, remixes, repackagings, etc. Sometimes it's difficult to ascertain what exactly was NEW on NWW releases. Some material is live; some is remixes; some is original versions of tracks which ended up on albums. Sometimes there doesn't seem to be a straight answer, even.

I guess one could describe this as a jam aesthetic, but even jam bands tend to release documents of a time and place. I think the degree of vagueness about what's actually new in recent NWW releases is unhelpful and at worse, negligent.
 

mistersloane

heavy heavy monster sound
With Whitehouse, I really do think the bombard of sexual/power imagery with them is intended to shake you out of socialised behaviours.

So it's tricky. (I should point out I haven't explored Whitehouse thoroughly)

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I really like Whitehouse now, and they were the band when I went into looking at all of these bands and meeting them and to some extent working with them that I had least time for. I think they fucking rock, and I think they're pretty much the apotheosis of pure rock. I'm still surprised that I'm saying that even as I'm writing it. The music gives me joy though.

Later Swans killed the whole genre dead though, and smashed it all to such smithereens that I'm still in awe.
 

Martin Dust

Techno Zen Master
I always loved the pantomime of Whitehouse, it was strange how it seemed to bring the "worst" out in some people, I thought they where very funny. Never been sure about Soto's tho...
 

Catbwoy

Active member
I always loved the pantomime of Whitehouse, it was strange how it seemed to bring the "worst" out in some people, I thought they where very funny. Never been sure about Soto's tho...

I'm not sure how people can't find Whitehouse funny. 2 middle aged men onstage screaming obscenities and getting their beer guts out for all to see. I think they're fucking hilarious.

I also love the band to bits, I was gutten when I didn't get to see any of their final gigs (being stuck over here in Australia as I am).
 

mms

sometimes
that site is by the guy who did the only serious review on the site, the great erector guy, who simon reynolds got very very excited about.
 

martin

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He's just into pushing boundaries of literature and censorship. Really really nice bloke, genuinely.

I've given a few of his books a go, but didn't really understand what he was getting at. Perhaps taking the trite insincerity of 'media panics' and over-amping them to expose the prurience beneath? I honestly don't know. I didn't enjoy his stuff much. It's funny how much of the stuff in PURE issue 1 turned out to be bollocks though, like the whole McMartin school case hoax.

Have you met him? My only contact was him gobbing beer at everyone and kicking people offstage at a Whitehouse gig, many moons ago...
 

mistersloane

heavy heavy monster sound
I've given a few of his books a go, but didn't really understand what he was getting at. Perhaps taking the trite insincerity of 'media panics' and over-amping them to expose the prurience beneath? I honestly don't know. I didn't enjoy his stuff much. It's funny how much of the stuff in PURE issue 1 turned out to be bollocks though, like the whole McMartin school case hoax.

Have you met him? My only contact was him gobbing beer at everyone and kicking people offstage at a Whitehouse gig, many moons ago...

We used to go out and get slaughtered when he was in town, haven't seen him for a while though, he comes and goes. I think that's probably about right - submitting the media to the sort of behaviour they submit other people to. I'm not too sure though, or really very familiar with his writing, and we never really talked about it. Too busy talking about Michael Jackson lol.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
Peter Christopherson of Coil is quite dismissive of Boyd Rice and Death In June in the new issue of The Wire. Which is good.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Speaking of Coil (again), does it make me a Bad Person that when I read about how John Balance died my first thought was "Shit, if you're going to assume the stage name of 'John Balance' you'd do well not to die by falling down a flight of stairs"?
 
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