lanugo

von Verfall erzittern
I was also disappointed by The Human Centipede. Then again, I wonder why the hell a sane person would be looking forward to such a movie in the first place...

Herzog's Lektionen in Finsternis (1992) was phenomenal, probably my favourite Herzog movie ever. Awe-inspiring aerial shots of the devastation the Gulf War left in Kuwait: gigantic oil fires, vast craters, ruins of futuristic-looking bunkers - accompanied by Wagner and Herzog's unmistakable narration.
 

Tentative Andy

I'm in the Meal Deal
For some reason, at the moment I only seem to be watching films that were released ages ago, not new ones. So on that note -

Death Proof was quite a bit better than I expected.
Young Adam was much better than I expected.
The Last Picture Show (.. yeah I know, only 35+ years late to the party..) was brilliant, a total revelation. Perfect soundtrack too.
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Herzog's Lektionen in Finsternis (1992) was phenomenal, probably my favourite Herzog movie ever. Awe-inspiring aerial shots of the devastation the Gulf War left in Kuwait: gigantic oil fires, vast craters, ruins of futuristic-looking bunkers - accompanied by Wagner and Herzog's unmistakable narration.

bloody hell, MUST see that
 

Brother Randy Hickey

formerly Dubversion
The Last Picture Show (.. yeah I know, only 35+ years late to the party..) was brilliant, a total revelation. Perfect soundtrack too.

when I'm in nerdy "top 10 films" list mode, Last Picture Show always makes the top 5. A wonderful, wonderful film.

Just got round to A Serious Man. Thoroughly enjoyed it, another of the Coen Brothers' "smaller" films, but charming and funny and thoughtful and sad.

"The teeth, we don't know. A sign from Hashem? Don't know. Helping others... couldn't hurt. "
 

bobbin

What
talking of herzog, his new bad lieutenant remake is a film i would unreservedly recommend to anyone.

yeah the trailer makes it look a bit shit if funny, and yeah nicholas cage is responsible for acting like this
but: trailers for mainstream cinema reels always make films look shit, and cage is weirdly... quite good in this role.

i enjoyed the last third loads even though i really needed a piss for all of it.
 

Brother Randy Hickey

formerly Dubversion
talking of herzog, his new bad lieutenant remake is a film i would unreservedly recommend to anyone..

it's really cruel you know - you and all the critics playing a mean trick on an old man like Herzog, pretending you like his film even though you're all sniggering behind his back..

because it's clearly absolutely fucking dreadful and you know it. Cage is worse than I've ever seen him (and I include The Wicker Man), the script is pitiful, the ending the kind of "it was all a dream" nonsense Dynasty would have shied away from.

I laughed a lot when I saw it, but not "with it", if you see what I mean.

"shoot him again - his soul is still dancing". Seriously, fuck off with that :D
 

grizzleb

Well-known member
Anyone who took 'Bad Leuitenant' at face value is a fool...It's clearly a high-grade spoof. And a hilarious one at that. Great film.
 

bobbin

What
nope, sorry, i think bad lieutenant is an entirely solid piece of filmmaking with tons of visual and narrative flair! i don't really understand why it should be seen as some kind of in-joke excluding the director, or alternatively as a complete send up devised by him. i mean i think grizzleb would be right to say it's pretty arch in its take on cop movies (including the original obviously) but it's got some substance and serious passages rather than being a spoof movie. it's more layered than that as you'd expect from a director like herzog.

it can be very funny ('shoot him again, his soul is still dancing' for instance) but i generally felt like i was laughing in the places i was supposed to be.

'it's all a dream' is not an interpretation i'd choose to pin onto the end of the film, i think it makes more sense to take it straight up.

strange if people think it's cage at his worst. it's the one time i've enjoyed his acting. maybe it was herzog, maybe it was the role, but for some reason he pulled it off for once.

incidentally, i assumed the studio had decreed cage would take the lead, but apparently it was herzog's idea. and cage took a 90% pay cut compared to his normal fee to work with him. make of that what you will! :)
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
when I'm in nerdy "top 10 films" list mode, Last Picture Show always makes the top 5. A wonderful, wonderful film.

young Cybill Shepherd - yum...

i thought the original Bad Lieut was one of the worst films I've ever seen, so ripe for a pisstake. Anyways, it's got Eva Mendes in it, if all else goes wrong.
 

Brother Randy Hickey

formerly Dubversion
'it's all a dream' is not an interpretation i'd choose to pin onto the end of the film, i think it makes more sense to take it straight up.

I didn't say that was my interpretation, it's just a similarly fatuous ending to "oh look, against all odds, everything's come up roses."

as for the rest - you're all crazy
 

Brother Randy Hickey

formerly Dubversion
Anyone who took 'Bad Leuitenant' at face value is a fool...It's clearly a high-grade spoof. And a hilarious one at that. Great film.

i don't think it's intentionally a "spoof" as such, although Herzog was obviously going for black comedy. IMO, he's failed miserably, it's just a sorry mess
 

bobbin

What
I didn't say that was my interpretation, it's just a similarly fatuous ending to "oh look, against all odds, everything's come up roses."

as for the rest - you're all crazy

i really liked the ending. i thought i was a lot less fatuous (not to mention trite) than making yet another film where no act is committed without its (predictable) consequences, everybody pays in the end, yada yada. it was a lovely and amusing end to the film, even better for the way the narrative and character issues set up got knocked down so quickly like dominos (excluding one).
 

Tentative Andy

I'm in the Meal Deal
young Cybill Shepherd - yum...

Yes indeed! I can't quite make up my mind who was more stunning though - her in this or Faye Dunaway in Bonnie & Clyde? (Potential material for the old-school babes thread?)
Quite a few things in LPS took me by surprise - the naked pool-party for one, and the bit where they hire the car-seat prostitute for that kid even more so.

Sort of want to have a look at Bad Ltd now after the above debate. Don't know the original though.
 

slim jenkins

El Hombre Invisible
Dead Presidents...The Hughes Brothers...great soundtrack...brilliant script...OTT with the ketchup but, really, a damn good film that covers 'Nam, Black Power, drug addiction, parenthood...desperation and wasted lives...
 

zhao

there are no accidents
new Bad Lieutanent ROCKS. fucking brilliant. i like it better than the original, and not only because of the morally superior redemption scene ("just mineral water please" -- hahaha! :D).

just saw Doubt kind of accidentally and thought it was really good.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
"it can be very funny ('shoot him again, his soul is still dancing' for instance) but i generally felt like i was laughing in the places i was supposed to be."
I watched this last night and it was a copy my friend had burned for me (naughty naughty) and it cut out at this bit - serves me right I guess. How much is left to go?
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Just watched the first part of Fassbinder's World on a Wire - extremely stylish sci-fi with interesting ideas which have been done several times since but probably never so well.
 
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