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^ that mini doc is good.

Few tune below from Mark Radford's Rinse show last night:

Carnao Beats - Just Say Nothing

Tazer - Wet Dollars

Submerged - Downtown

Riaz Dhanani & Adam Cotier - Lost Planet
 
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trilliam said:
good mini documentary with djs like MA1, Pioneer, Naughty, Lance Morgan, B3 Edwards only 2 minutes in seems lively
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yeah this is really good, people should definitely watch.

interesting that b3 takes great pains to rep 'only uk urban house' guys or whatever he calls them and is the guy most explicitly arguing for the novelty of the genre (to compare, pioneer's talking about cycles of house and garage coming back round, reviving the sound he grew up with etc). i think that sense of localized pride/interest in defending newness can only be a good thing, even though i'm not really that convinced at this moment of time tbh.

also interesting but (maybe obviously?) not surprising to hear bondax, dusky, eats everything bigged up... you guys i imagine will disagree, but so many tunes on this thread seem to me like they could fit seamlessly into this - which yeah i guess is why b3's comments are quite itneresting to me:

ps definitely NOT calling into question the 'legitimacy' or w/e of the scene, obviously it's definitely a thing and that's cool. or trying to engage someone in a boo uk bass everything's the same argument. althoguh i guess i probably am just reviving same old nuum theories yawn.
 
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There is something really Boddika about that bass. I think he's got a track or two on his own or as Instra:mental that has that vibe to it, really simular bass sound, electro drums and all that. Can't remember which off the top of my head though and I'm not in the mood to listen to loads of Boddika haha.

Always quite liked Carnao. Was really into his funky stuff a while ago, not feeling this as much but its still alright innit.
 
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Want to big up Trilliam and Continuum for constantly coming with the goods in this thread, on point the both of ya.

Interesting to note in that documentary (which is great) around the 9 min mark (when B3 and Lance Morgan are talkin') a jackin' tune is playing in the background:
I'm looking forward to playing these two styles alongside each other more and more. Also interesting to hear a lot of the producers mentioned: Disclosure, Dusky, Eats Everything etc. Factor in the fact that the shufflin' sound obv owes a lot to the Hot Creations sound, and that the jackin' lot are known to book that sound alongside their own and it looks like we've got a potentially fertile area of convergence on our hands.

And yeah, that Carnao tune is too much and I love the video for that Freight Train track (the track's good too.)
 
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With the obvious disclaimers that a) I haven't heard this stuff played out and b) I don't like house that much - I listened to that Mark Radford birthday(?) show and I can't see the fuss at all. Maybe I'll play it loud on my speakers and hope for the best. Just seemed pretty boring to me.
 
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There is something really Boddika about that bass. I think he's got a track or two on his own or as Instra:mental that has that vibe to it, really simular bass sound, electro drums and all that.
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totally - sounds particularly like warehouse to me:
i could almost see boddika playing 'just say nothing' actually, but in a good way...i like how it's more aux 88 electro than electro-house
 
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"I'm looking forward to playing these two styles alongside each other more and more. Also interesting to hear a lot of the producers mentioned: Disclosure, Dusky, Eats Everything etc. Factor in the fact that the shufflin' sound obv owes a lot to the Hot Creations sound, and that the jackin' lot are known to book that sound alongside their own and it looks like we've got a potentially fertile area of convergence on our hands"

hinted at this towards the start of the thread it's only natural. i'd say more crosstown rebels, dirtybird than hot creations but that is there as well. both jackin n this share a lot of obvious similarities (despite what some may think) so ye suttin to look forward to i suppose.

the uk right now is in the middle of a love in with house and guys like disclosure, dusky etc are all part of the overriding arch of this love in.

"With the obvious disclaimers that a) I haven't heard this stuff played out and b) I don't like house that much - I listened to that Mark Radford birthday(?) show and I can't see the fuss at all. Maybe I'll play it loud on my speakers and hope for the best. Just seemed pretty boring to me."

i posted a lot of mixes in here a long with continuums many single tracks so they should provide a representation of whats gd. but if u dnt like it u dnt like it no need to force it.

i can neither see boddika playing stuff by these guys or vice versa i think that shud be played down with the swiftness. boddikas stuff sounds too experimental tbh.

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a lot of tunes in that r

1) bangers

2) house

3) played by a lot of these guys and make up the general listening.

there's no doubt in my mind b3 listens to popular house but his sets are mostly his own material / material being sent to him by fellow djs/producers and that's what he wants to push so fair play to him. his attitude might even be reactionary to this whole "no shuffling" creche/operation condor/"badman attitude" thing

i dunno why u imagined ppl wud disagree, the only thing i'd say is that the tunes in that vid r straight house. not "Uk bass" "post dubstep" etc etc


newaiiii

Supa D is back and this is his new mix, I doubt it's gonna have any UK productions in there, but what it will have is a lot of the anthems and gems tastefully picked by the djs dj in this scene (and in funky) shud provide a lot of context for some

 
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Just that one track has a Boddika vibe to it, he's got some other ones that are more rolling and have a funky kinda house swing to the drums, I dunno Breezin, Soul What... But yeah I can't see him crossing over into this. I could see Klose One, Loefah's School Records doing it though and Boddika aint that far from that stuff at all. You could already play Chunky and the Zed Bias double pack on Swamp 81 with this stuff just like you can play Dusky etc. The only thing new to me about this stuff now is the audiance and some people dance to it now. Its not a new genre its a new dance and to be honest I have no idea how they dance to it like they do cos its all kinda one note and chugging rather than fun and hype but there you go. I am all for the dancing though house needs a kick up the arse with people just doing polite shuffles in the corner.

Maybe this? Might be too dark I dunno. Poeple like South London Ordnance might be a bit dark too but it aint a million miles off.


I think a lot of this stuff is post-dubstep like George Fitzgerald, Dusky, Disclosure, Julio Bashmore. I mean they where before so why are they not now because they're being played by the cool kids on pirate radio?

Atone on the new Dusky EP is sounding alright: http://www.factmag.com/2013/03/19/premiere-stream-duskys-nobody-else-ep-in-full/
 
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jimitheexploder said:
Just that one track has a Boddika vibe to it, he's got some other ones that are more rolling and have a funky kinda house swing to the drums, I dunno Breezin, Soul What... But yeah I can't see him crossing over into this. I could see Klose One, Loefah's School Records doing it though and Boddika aint that far from that stuff at all. You could already play Chunky and the Zed Bias double pack on Swamp 81 with this stuff just like you can play Dusky etc. The only thing new to me about this stuff now is the audiance and some people dance to it now. Its not a new genre its a new dance and to be honest I have no idea how they dance to it like they do cos its all kinda one note and chugging rather than fun and hype but there you go. I am all for the dancing though house needs a kick up the arse with people just doing polite shuffles in the corner.

Maybe this? Might be too dark I dunno. Poeple like South London Ordnance might be a bit dark too but it aint a million miles off.


I think a lot of this stuff is post-dubstep like George Fitzgerald, Dusky, Disclosure, Julio Bashmore. I mean they where before so why are they not now because they're being played by the cool kids on pirate radio?

Atone on the new Dusky EP is sounding alright: http://www.factmag.com/2013/03/19/premiere-stream-duskys-nobody-else-ep-in-full/
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funny stuff

"child" "battle for middle you" "flo jam" are these all not house tunes ?

secondly the two scenes, dusky disclosure and radford, morgan are distinctly different the only thing bringing them together is they both make house and r both british

this thread is NOT for the new dusky single or huxley mix on boiler room so dnt even think about it please

loefah lol u must be joking

here's a new mix by storm, producer on audiorehab has made some bangers

check out my first podcast, mixed by my self Storm. The productions on this mix compilation are mainly by my self & collaborations with. Lee Edwards, Mark Radford, Marlon Sadler, Lance Morgan, David Frank, H.P.
 
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just listened to that tune u must be joking, not that there's anything wrong with it but if u think it fits in here boy ur just trying to draw non existent links to shit for arguments sake cause that ting isn't danceable in the slightest.
 
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The styles of those producers Bashmore, George Fitzgerald, Dusky, Disclosure, haven't changed that much to call them anything new. They were prob always house but they got called post-dubstep and the mick taken out of them by the same crowd that now call them just house and play them all the time years later. Loefah's School Records already had a Dusky track on it that'll get played here, its wicked too:
 
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Quite a lot, I like it more than jackin. Just can't take it in a big chunks, the rinse sets I've heard have put me to sleep it just doesn't work for me like that it makjes it sound really tidius. The odd track would be awsome mixed in with garage, funky, tuffer house sounds and techno tho to liven it up a bit. Even with Jackin it would sound better, more fun and energetic at least.
 
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i only ask cos it seems like ur only purpose in here is to slag off the music n provide these overly reductive criticisms, ur not alone either, evidently though i have misinterpreted ur intentions

have u listened to that storm mix
 
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Not heard that mix yet no, will get on it tho. I dont think its reductive to say some of this stuff is related to those post-dubstep house sounds. Its not a judgment of quality its just that its pretty funny and odd that now those artists get props when even just a year or so ago they were dismissed as just post-dubstep by people into funky and even the deeper house stuff that was mixed with it in the earlier days. It somehow riles people that these people were once post-dubstep and were not liked by this scene and now they're house and loved just cos they like them now. Simular thing with Jackin' I doubt many people would have been bothered about Disclosure if they wern't played there. Now its not just post-dubstep its legit garage or something.
 
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bashmore and them man were always gonna win and tbh i dnt think there music was rele the most quintessential post dubstep, nor did they describe or consider it as such. regardless the brand of house exhibited in this thread is not from the same cloth even if they can all combine to make one rich tapestry u follow?
 
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I'd like to hear it go more in the way of darker techy funky like early T.Williams bits like Anthem, Flooring, Hard Cash, that Deep Teknologi sound J.Bevin, Zander Hardy and Carnao when he had a bit more swing 86 Baby: Even George Fitzgeralds slightly darker bits too like: which is well nice dark, techy, not as bait 90s sounding as Child, which is fun none the less. A lot of this shuffling stuff is a bit to reliant on that one bass sound and chug for me.
 
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