Go on then.. who's the best UK MC?

[trilliam]

ironic aint the word

 

[droid]

Im glad youve finally noticed.

 

[muser]

no-one can rise to this

 

[john eden]

i aint fucked with ghetto since like 2006 maximum but in his prime he is my choice for best uk mc, him or giggs. sorry.

Apologies, I hadn't realised you two were so close.

 

[luka]

Also being a pioneer can't be discredited.

can agree with this obviously and I'm not anti giggs at all. It's just to include him you need to adjust your criteria and when you do you immediately let the saxon lot back into the argument
If you're talking about pioneers it's them lot, it's wiley and riko in '99, it's a different conversation

 

[luka]

These categories pound came up with...

1.Inventors. Men who found a new process, or whose extant work gives us the first known example of a process.
2.The masters. Men who combined a number of such processes, and who used them as well as or better than the inventors.
3.The diluters. Men who came after the first two kinds of writer, and couldn’t do the job quite as well.
4.Good writers without salient qualities. Men who are fortunate enough to be born when the literature of a given country is in good working order, or when some particular branch of writing is ‘healthy’.
5.Writers of belles-lettres. That is, men who didn’t really invent anything, but who specialized in some particular part of writing, who couldn’t be considered as ‘great men’ or as authors who were trying to give a complete presentation of life, or of their epoch.
6.The starters of crazes.

 

[luka]

So you have to weigh these things eg who is more important the 1 who makes the breakthrough or the 1 bringing it to fruition, it's fullest expression -?

 

[luka]

ppl talk about giggs 'slow flow' but he only adopted that after droppin the bulk of his best material, just a lazy cop out imo

pretty much every selecction there is a slow flow, leaving massive spaces between words, even spaces between syllables of the same word. so not sure what your point is tbh. baffled.

 

[CrowleyHead]

It got even slower and more basic though, Trilliam is right about that. Probably in an attempt to tighten up or just make it more pallateable.

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Compared to say grime, yes EVERYTHING Giggs does is "slow flow", but its not actually that slow compared to what he moved it into.

 

[luka]

I suppose if you want to be pedantic you can divide his career into slow flow and very slow flow periods. What do we gain by that? It's just splitting hairs really. I think I've probably said enough in this thread though. It's getting too circular.

 

[Patrick Swayze]

He's slowed down, got more basic and chooses a narrower range of beats. Prefer his older stuff.

 

[slackk]

How can anyone not rate peak era Giggs this thread is mental

 

[luka]

No one slagged him off i don't think? Thread is mental tho

 

[luka]

That's what happens when you pretend your subjective opinion has some sort of universally valid scientific basis, and everyone else is a div.

 

[Corpsey]

 

[droid]

Ha! Good point.

 

[CrowleyHead]

Fuck, end of thread really.

 

[Corpsey]

He's got the English teeth too.

 

[trilliam]

ye i can fuck with that

his voice was too much, an the swag forget about it

 

[mistersloane]

Yeah, I really liked "Treat Her Like A Prostitute", I thought it was a high point for UK culture.