sadmanbarty
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The other thing is generational. I was born after jungle. Electronic music’s always existed for me. It doesn’t innately sound novel or futuristic. Often it sounds antiquated.
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The other thing is generational. I was born after jungle. Electronic music’s always existed for me. It doesn’t innately sound novel or futuristic. Often it sounds antiquated.
sadmanbarty
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me and Luke
Another music forum. They had a big rolling Q+A with Autechre once that went on for like three days where they just answered everyone's questions.
luka
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I'm not sure the aesthetics of it necessarily revolve around novel and futuristic. The electro thread was an attempt to try and sketch out the value set but we still have work to do.
sadmanbarty
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having now skimmed their entire oeuvre, i can now conclude:
1) their output in the 00's is infinitely preferable to their 90's work
2) they are much better when they try to avoid anything remotely idiomatic. their melodies sound like they're from time splitters 2 and their rhythmic template is borrowed from the most embarrassing, thankfully-forgotten parts of the 90's (industrial hip hop, downtempo)
they are two men who fundamentally don't understand music and should definitely stick to creating soundscapes.
1) their output in the 00's is infinitely preferable to their 90's work
2) they are much better when they try to avoid anything remotely idiomatic. their melodies sound like they're from time splitters 2 and their rhythmic template is borrowed from the most embarrassing, thankfully-forgotten parts of the 90's (industrial hip hop, downtempo)
they are two men who fundamentally don't understand music and should definitely stick to creating soundscapes.
sadmanbarty
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i'd say at their best they're a bit like free improvisation. you can listen out for textures and things, but it's ultimately disposable. no track is particularly better or worse than the other, no need particularly for repeated listening.
sadmanbarty
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draft 7.30 is their best album
I thought the same for a while, but I dunno what I think is their best these days. This is probably my favourite tune by them.
sadmanbarty
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version don't/didn't you have all compulsions to do with your skin? it was all a bit irritable and uncomfortable?
would that kind of music be a bit like scratching the itch?
would that kind of music be a bit like scratching the itch?
sadmanbarty
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How do you feel about stuff like Parmegiani? You don't really get anything about being a Frenchman from it. It's just sounds in space, much like Ae.
chava
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Absolutely. I never bought this idea of electronic music or rave was about the or future sounds as such.
Music is never not about culture, but electronic music contrary to rock etc is very much about an abstraction from the (individual) body paradoxically also a distancing to the street(gang) culture as hiphop was. Autechre as an act was not a part of B-boy culture, they were fully embraced in the whole rave/techno phenomenon, didn't exactly headline Miami Bass BBQ parties or whatnot.
I thought I was the Autechre hater around here, but I now see I am just a skeptic.