Universally agreed terrible film(s)

[IdleRich]

I think most of the bad films that have had wide viewings tend to be cult bad films. I think plain old bad films don't tend to get enough viewings for there to be an established near-universal opinion about them.

I think you are feeling your way to the same point as Craner.

 

[Mr. Tea]

There was a scene where an elevator got rattled by a quake, in which a surreally unrealistic blood-splatter clip-art flew out toward the viewer.

I once saw a made-for-TV move called Asteroid!, which was a real masterpiece of badness (as you'd expect from any disaster movie whose title is a single noun followed by an exclamation mark). It included the wonderful line: "It hasn't been this quiet since... hell, it's never been this quiet." But the bit that really sticks in my mind was the sound supposedly made by the titular astronomical object as it whizzed through space. Now I can watch and enjoy Star Wars, say, without getting too hung up on the fact that you can both see and hear the "laser beams" in space, so I'm in no way a fundamentalist about bad physics in films - but what was amazing here is that the sound effect they'd used was the exact same sound that the Icon of Sin makes as it spawns monsters at you in the final level of Doom II.

 

[woops]

i think @craner's intuition was implicit in @IdleRich's first post

 

[craner]

i think @craner's intuition was implicit in @IdleRich's first post

Are you saying that this whole 22 page thread has been a complete waste of time?

 

[woops]

no, that's not what i said

 

[craner]

no, that's not what i said

Yes, it definitely was.

 

[woops]

Yes, it definitely was.

minus the implied compliment to both your intellects

 

[HannahB]

You keep committing the intentional fallacy which implies you subscribe to a premodern view of art so decide

Actually I don’t

 

[woops]

Actually I don’t

someone as apparently versed in film theory as yourself can't be oblivious of this stuff @HannahB

 

[HannahB]

someone as apparently versed in film theory as yourself can't be oblivious of this stuff @HannahB

🙄

 

[IdleRich]

i think @craner's intuition was implicit in @IdleRich's first post

If it was it was unintentional and I didn't spot it

 

[HannahB]

🙄

You keep committing the intentional fallacy which implies you subscribe to a premodern view of art so decide

You sound like boris johnson gov website. And with your other comment. “What you need to know.” “What you need to do”. So does idle rich issuing orders and monorail appraisals

 

[maxi]

I think most of the bad films that have had wide viewings tend to be cult bad films. I think plain old bad films don't tend to get enough viewings for there to be an established near-universal opinion about them.

that's why i said the closest thing to an answer would be sequels/franchises/hyped films, ones with big promotional campaigns so tons of people see them, no one likes them and they become well known for being universally regarded as awful (of course nothings completely universal though).

such as
star wars prequels
catwoman
superman 4

then that reputation lives on without anyone even having to see it, as with citizen kane.

however none of those would really be used in shorthand as an opposite equivalent of citizen kane. the film that is like that is The Room, which as someone already said is described as 'the citizen kane of bad movies'. but that is a huge cult film.

 

[Clinamenic]

Didn't see your point about sequels, but yeah I'd agree. The best way for many people to see a simply bad film.

 

[woops]

this is uncanny

after watching drive last night and thinking it was good

suddenly i've just decided it was really bad. and fake. the worst thing a made up film can be is fake

thank you @HannahB

i will never enjoy that film again

 

[craner]

Has anyone actually watched The Room?

 

[Corpsey.]

I have. It was fun

 

[maxi]

yeah ive seen it and it is kind of fascinating to watch actually. tommy wiseau is a very strange duck

 

[woops]

I have. It was fun

Yeah fun boggling at how was this ever made, oh hi matt

 

[Mr. Tea]

Has anyone actually watched The Room?

I have. It's excruciating and kind of funny and also kind of a document of mental illness.