shakahislop
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but what are we supposed to make of it? just laugh at it probably
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Clinamenic
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I mean, you can view it as a roomba-like experimentation process, where novelty is vaunted for its own sake, but you could also view it as refreshing that its not just recycling old aesthetics, and that new aesthetics are forming (new to my knowledge, at least).
Clinamenic
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Am I off-base in detecting an almost analytic degree of organization and curation with this austerbane aesthetic? But at the same time, its also chic (or trying to be). In this sense, a fitting neologism would be 'hautistic' (haute + autistic). @william_kent
shakahislop
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could be the subtitle of this thread
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The thing about Roombas is that the first wave machines were basically gimmicks. But Roombas today are very smart and very effective and if you shell out for a high quality one, you'll never switch back to normal vacuums.
Many trends work this way. Hype that doesn't deliver until suddenly it does
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IdleRich
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And a relentless hunger for a hot new thing means something has to be hyped even if nothing deserves it - 'there's always a single of the week, every single week" kind of thing.
shakahislop
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thinking it in terms of an assemblage or a machine - the place itself, the people who show up for photos, the story about banning people who show up for photos, the other media coverage - the hot new thing serves many purposes for various groups of people.
one thing i don't like about going to media hyped things like that is that you feel like a sucker
the UK is notably more set in its ways and less credulous for this kind of thing, especially around food i think. are there food places with lines going out the door and round the corner in london? there are quite a lot of these in new york (off the top of my head, scarrs which is basically a normal pizza shop, prince street pizza which is the same, katz's which is an old deli that tourists go to, the cronut place, some place in chinatown i've never been in, russ and daughters which sells salmon bagels or something)
ghost
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feels hard to ignore that london has the world's worst fast casual restaurants i've ever experienced. maybe just a general disrespect for food.
IdleRich
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There used to be, dunno now. Probably less common - Franco Manco before it was a chain Bao when it opened - but I've got a thing about queuing to eat so tend to avoid. I've actually been to Katz's, I don't think there are places in London that have queues for decades after they are open like that.
shakahislop
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part of what makes up those lines though is this thing that french people and americans have in common when it comes to food, 'oh my god if you're in nashville you have to try the hot chicken'; 'sacre bleu if you're in bordeaux you have to eat les canels'; 'zut alors if you're in toulouse it is required to eat le cassoulet'; 'if you're in new york you have to eat the pizza because it's mysteriously very different than pizza everywhere else in america' 'in maine dude you've got to eat lobster rolls' etc etc etc
that thing of associating the place and a particular food you must eat as part of the tourist experience is strong in the US. and taken to a ridiculous extreme by french people where they're like sat there having a five minute chat with the waiter about exactly which farm the marmelade was made at.
in the UK its like if you're at the seaside you might have fish and chips.
that thing of associating the place and a particular food you must eat as part of the tourist experience is strong in the US. and taken to a ridiculous extreme by french people where they're like sat there having a five minute chat with the waiter about exactly which farm the marmelade was made at.
in the UK its like if you're at the seaside you might have fish and chips.
IdleRich
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I get that I guess, and not just with food. The good thing in Portugal is, at least with the older generation, they insist on eating at regimented times. So I remember going to a festival with massive queues at 1pm but if you are at 2 or later you could just walk to the front and have your pick. And true to some extent everywhere, I doubt I would have queued for ages at Katz's so I probably went off peak or was lucky or something.
Clinamenic
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Shaker?
Shaker Hislop.
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ghost
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american non-sex having religious group that hung out in the 1800s having crazy dreams and making wacky furniture
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My kind of religious group!
shakahislop
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